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Lances and Haywire, easymode!

My solution has been not to play those people. It solves a lot.

But if you really insist on indulging them, 18 obliterators, deep strike them in and hope the friendship lasts.

The problem is the only games of 40k I get are at tournaments as there is no local game store where I live and not really a community of players so I'm stuck with tournaments. This first Tourny of 7th is allowing everything.

I want to go but just don't think I'll have any fun getting owned by LOW.

Primary army is eldar but I like playing AM as well. I need to decide on a 1750 list that can handle this stupid meta of this tourny if I go.

I know for sure there will be 2 harridans the 999 point Chaos Demon, 3 revenants 1 stormsword and 1 other baneblade variant and 3 T-C'Tan s

i don't own a lord of war and want to do more than just be a speed bump.

For Eldar? Bring fragons, lots of them

When the low came oht my friend went to a tournament with his space marines without a low and won. He tabled 4/5 opponents. They are big and scary but are alot of points. He used a stern guard vet squad in a drop pod with tiggy and combi meltas. He used puppet master then nuked the super heavy with the meltaguns (I know puppet master has gone but the melta guns havent). If you can get some storm troops 3x5 man squads 2x melta guns and a command squad with 4x melta no tank, super or not will survive :-). If they havent got tanks turn them on the enemy hq :-)

i have had impossibly bad luck with deep striking storm troopers as they always mishap.

I was really thinking about drop pod assault tho for allies and taking as much melta as possible.

Drop pod Sallys full of meltas will be devastating.

For IG Manticores, Demos, Vanquishers (the armourbane tanks not sure which variant they are just guessing), Dettas, Melta vets, if FW is allowed then Medusa artillery carriages and any other thing similar to those weapons.

Haha well thats never good.
Well dettas are good. But if your allowed fw the saber platforms used to be very good dont know about 7th ed tho and the manticore platform's are decent if you can hide them and take an inqusitor s9 ap2-3 (cant remember off the top of my head) 7" blast isnt bad for anti tank its very unlikely to miss.

But most of the stuff above is fw and I doubt you have the time to make/order it.

Your best/safe bet is deepstriking lots of melta guns :-)

mantacore is S10 AP 4 large blast

Matt2429 wrote:
The problem is the only games of 40k I get are at tournaments as there is no local game store where I live and not really a community of players so I'm stuck with tournaments. This first Tourny of 7th is allowing everything.

I want to go but just don't think I'll have any fun getting owned by LOW.

Primary army is eldar but I like playing AM as well. I need to decide on a 1750 list that can handle this stupid meta of this tourny if I go.

I know for sure there will be 2 harridans the 999 point Chaos Demon, 3 revenants 1 stormsword and 1 other baneblade variant and 3 T-C'Tan s

i don't own a lord of war and want to do more than just be a speed bump.

Eldar have a lot of firepower. Dual Lance War Walker units for Lords of War is always nice. Bring like 9 of them. I mean seriously, if thats the name of the game where you play, then get yer hands dirty, my boy. There's always an answer if you're willing to do that. haywire grenades work well also. i dunno. it might not be as bad as you think it will be though. Dont deprive yourself of the fun of going. You'll learn a lot about what you need to do moving forward by going to them. Thats useful info. so go just to learn this time around, and then plan your revenge...

Corsair prince for double the cheese?

Silly ork players seem to forget we have deffrollas and boardin' planks! What's not to love about D6 str 10 hits followed by x str 9/10 hits that the Low can't do anything about?

barding plpanks... Soooo cool

I actually had to deal with an IG LoW last night in my first 7th edition game. I was using Crimson Fists and found Pedro Kantor + 3 Honor Guard (1 w/axe) + Libby with Invisibility meant I was able to get up to and ruin that LoW tank without breaking a sweat thanks to a Power Fist, Power Axe and Force Staff.

Bharring wrote:
Corsair prince for double the cheese?

ironically, they banned forge world armies.


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Maybe I should just bring a maxed out Jet Seer with Baron.

Theres also the cheap suicide hades drills for IG loaded up with meltas. Granted they took a nerf but they still get the job done

most LOW's are bad at anti air,

vendettas will rock their socks.



keep in mind that if you play a tactical game, you should have far more stuff to cap objectives, let alone far more objective secured stuff, so that you win simply by winning the mission as opposed to tabling the other guy.

have a nice big blog of guard/conscripts to tarpit, or hold in reserves to cap objectives, melta, ect, are very good... if you are constantly mishapping from DS... thats either bad luck or bad placement,


the guys who are taking LOW's will do better against smaller armies of elite troops, against hordes of guard, they will suffer as they have spent half their armies points on somthing optimized to kill elite units/other LOW's

if you get invis too, thats a huge counter to all the template D weapons, so is psychic shreik a decent way to deal with SH MC's.

some good points

Never heard of the drill before what is that?

Does anrakyr's ability work on super heavy vehicles as well?

Not sure about dealing with a C'Tan, haven't faced one. Nids are a pain just because GC's are stupidly broken, especially the Harridan.

As for dealing with IG, they're just tanks, nothing special, just shoot them with the same stuff you'd use to kill a Leman Russ.

Knights are a different matter for my army to handle, but overall I deal with them the same way I deal with other armored threats, massed AT fire.

Matt2429 wrote:
some good points

Never heard of the drill before what is that?

FW tunneling drill used by IG (you'll see them a lot in DKoK armies), functions similarly to a droppod in some respects.

I use the same tools I use for everything else. Swooping Hawks haywiring, and Wraithknights shooting and punching them.

Vendettas the twin linked las cannon will do a great deal of damage to em without taking much of a hit themselves, never leave home without em!!!

Lords of war, aside from tanks are not that easy to deal with as some of you are making it out to be. Even a properly bubble wrapped Bane Blade can make mince meat out of an army in short order. That aside, deep-striking or concentrated air assaults may do the trick, but dont be fooled into thinking one Vendetta or Stormraven is taking down a biotitan or revnant on it own.

Is hth assault viable Vs LoWs at all or does stomp etc render it a suicide run?
Eg 5-10 thunderhammer termies etc etc?

 Ratius wrote:
Is hth assault viable Vs LoWs at all or does stomp etc render it a suicide run?
Eg 5-10 thunderhammer termies etc etc?

Your Thunderhammer termies might take a fair beating before they get to hit. That said, though, powerklaw nobs are still scary...

Run 3 units of 4 scarabs and hope your opponent didn't read the Necron codex.

Daemons actually have a good shot at knocking a LoW, provided they're fielding plenty of Slaanesh units - they're exceedingly fast (Seekers average 21" per turn) and they're all rending. S3 means you'll need a 6 and a 5+ to glance most rear armor, but it will work.

Any big daemons with a GE will do the trick too - especially a bloodthirster w/ 7 or 8 attacks and S8 on the charge.

Soul Grinders of Slaanesh would work well too. They get the movement bump and are S10.

Lords of war don't have their armour reduced by scarabs though do they? True enough about the daemons though; massed rending from slaanesh daemons (of all stripes) is the answer to a great many problems.

Pretty sure LoWs don't get affected by any AV-reducing effects as a Superheavy. And you'll need a lot of luck to strip enough HPs off a LoW to be an effective counter to it.

Slaanesh daemons do great against the gargantuans and they can hurt a baneblade or revenant, but they can't hurt knights or the other titans.