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 Selym wrote:
Khorne is:
-War
-Killing
-Bloodshed
-Combatitive power
-Strength of will
-Domination
-Hate/Rage/Wrath
-Martial Honour/Pride

Khorne is...a great band. Or at least they were.
Khorne is also delicious. Especially on the Khob.

It was bound to come up eventually...

 Wulfmar wrote:
It was bound to come up eventually...

Spoiler:

There's something about that picture, that is just...dirty.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Tzeentch would totally support a practical joker.

Heck, that's pretty much what Horrors amount to.

Oh I have no doubt it'd support the practical jokes.

But you shouldn't expect any awesome gifts after wrapping your neighbor's cubical in tin foil for the 9th time.

Same deal with Khorne, offering the skulls of any number of babies vs any number of warriors should net you a lesser gift (if any).

nobody wrote:

Same deal with Khorne, offering the skulls of any number of babies vs any number of warriors should net you a lesser gift (if any).

 Wulfmar wrote:

nobody wrote:

Same deal with Khorne, offering the skulls of any number of babies vs any number of warriors should net you a lesser gift (if any).

 Wulfmar wrote:

nobody wrote:

Same deal with Khorne, offering the skulls of any number of babies vs any number of warriors should net you a lesser gift (if any).

Such win.

Everyone arguing about the meaning of "Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows..." reminds me of different Christian denominations arguing over the meaning of Bible verses. And maybe that's just it. Religions in the real world diverge greatly, even when they allegedly worship the same being. Why not that much more for Chaos cults? While we act like the Chaos Gods are ordinary beings, with set personalities, they're actually unfathomable eldritch masses of numerous different raw emotions and abstract concepts. In short, the Chaos Gods are not easily understood by mortal men, and are therefore open to interpretation by their worshipers.

Personally, I like the idea of Khorne champions and worshipers who don't harm the weak because they view it as disgraceful. In general, I prefer more nuanced Chaos characters than the cackling cartoon characters who could never last as an army in real life that all too often appear in depictions of Chaos.

 fallinq wrote:
Everyone arguing about the meaning of "Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows..." reminds me of different Christian denominations arguing over the meaning of Bible verses. And maybe that's just it. Religions in the real world diverge greatly, even when they allegedly worship the same being. Why not that much more for Chaos cults? While we act like the Chaos Gods are ordinary beings, with set personalities, they're actually unfathomable eldritch masses of numerous different raw emotions and abstract concepts. In short, the Chaos Gods are not easily understood by mortal men, and are therefore open to interpretation by their worshipers.

Personally, I like the idea of Khorne champions and worshipers who don't harm the weak because they view it as disgraceful. In general, I prefer more nuanced Chaos characters than the cackling cartoon characters who could never last as an army in real life that all too often appear in depictions of Chaos.

True enough, there's likely some cults of Khorne who believe him to be a bloody handed man with the head of a Wolf who desires only skulls to devour, and blood to drink rather then a throne and river, that their minions are warriors built to kill those who displease him.

In the grim darkness of the far future, nobody is innocent. Therefore, the question is moot.

Okay, people, stop basing your entire understanding off of a single phrase that, as mentioned, could mean a LOT of things other than the one way it's being interpreted. Especially when the full quote explicitly says:

The blood God sits upon a brass throne atop a mountain of skulls. The remains are those of his victims and his champions both, for he cares not whose blood is shed in his name.

Khorne is definitely not about slaughtering the weak. He's not the god of droll, mindless, assembly-line butchery and blood collection. Yes, he will still accept blood and skulls from everywhere, but that doesn't mean he thirsts for all of them equally. Not even the trivialized quote people are bantering claims that.

I mean, let's say you offered to give me a thousand dollars, but only in the form of dimes. I'd still take the money, because it's money, but I would definitely have preferred ten 100 dollar bills to 10,000 coins. I might even accept your money and then peevishly sic my flesh hounds on you.

Anyways, for every mention of blind rage, there's always a mention of something greater. In the 4th ed codex, below the point of Khorne being, among other things, the god of "pointless murder", it also says "His armies heave with those ensnared by notions of courage, honour, martial pride, and revenge; all such concepts lead ultimately to the base of the Blood God's throne".

Meanwhile, Kharn originally perpetrated his betrayal because his fellow world eaters were being cowards and not attacking fast enough. He was purging weakness. Which makes sense given that Khorne is the god of competition, its soldiers engaging in endless fighting among themselves to see who is best when not going on a bloody rampage somewhere else.

Even both stripes of eldar embody this, the DE spend much of their time in gladiatorial pits, and regular eldar worship their bloody-handed god of battle while honing their martial arts to perfection.

None of this is about slaughtering innocents or going for the easy kill. He may accept the sacrifice, begrudgingly and with repercussions, but that doesn't mean he'd direct his followers to do it on purpose or wholeheartedly approves of such behavior.

Meanwhile, Kharn originally perpetrated his betrayal because his fellow world eaters were being cowards and not attacking fast enough. He was purging weakness. Which makes sense given that Khorne is the god of competition, its soldiers engaging in endless fighting among themselves to see who is best when not going on a bloody rampage somewhere else.

Considering that it was cold enough that they were literally freezing to death in power armor, that just means that Khorne is literally "Attack, ATTACK, EVEN IF IT'S HORRIFICALLY STUPID TO DO SO ATTACK!'

And really doesn't help reinforce your position, he broke the fighting power of the World Eaters into Warbands, and ended up screwing them over in the long run.

Even both stripes of eldar embody this, the DE spend much of their time in gladiatorial pits, and regular eldar worship their bloody-handed god of battle while honing their martial arts to perfection.

Mostly wych cults and slaves, and only the aspects, one does not hone the Bloody handed god as a basic civilian.

Yeah, Khorne used to be all about battle, just pure battle. There were times in the older fluff he annihilated guys who claimed him as their god when they went all murder-y on defenseless civilians.

He doesn't care who fights who, just that it's a fight. Butchering those who can't fight used to piss the guy off.

Ailaros wrote:His armies heave with those ensnared by notions of courage, honour, martial pride, and revenge; all such concepts lead ultimately to the base of the Blood God's throne".

This is a description of his followers, not of him. Yes, people will join Khornate warbands because they seek to test their martial skill, because they seek to join a brotherhood of warriors, because they want to test their own courage and mettle....

Khorne doesn't give a feth about any of that, in the end, all of these people will be dead, or blood-maddened berzerkers who live only to kill.