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Does a unit in a transport count as scoring? Would a psyker in transport affect the Culexus Assassin?
Yes it can score and affects the Culexus.
It can score but does not affect the Culexus.
It can not score but affects the Culexus.
It can't score or affect the Culexus.
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I use the old Mek Gunz because I have four of them already, and having to spend $46 per gun to update them is hogwash. I might buff their size a bit with some plasticard and bitz to keep them in line with the new models.

But let's keep this thread on target. The short answer seems to be that you would select what unit holds what objective. Superheavies with multiple units and large sizes would be hilarious.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut




Then it isnt a stormtalon model, its another model, and the rules only consider Citadel Models.

There is no need to have set rules, as the hobby is foremost about models and painting, secondly about the gaming side of things. Gamers are very good at sorting out between themselves what is acceptable. THis "problem" has existed for ever - google "kneeling wraithlord", thats 3rd ed from memory.

The new guns, for what you get, are not overpriced. Their cost per points is way off, however that isnt exactly the measure of a models worth, in my eyes. It is also a great example of how much a marine dev box with 4 of every weapon would cost....
   
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Waaagh! Warbiker








The kneeling wraithlord thing was a huge thing yeah I remember haha.

The new guns are totally overprice per point.

In fact...

If you take ONE ork trukk and ONE mek gun box

You can make FOUR mek guns and have spare parts left over..

(I can link you the conversion if you would like to see it)

And that isn't even for the cost of two guns..

Theyre overpriced.

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The Hive Mind





 Awfeel wrote:
They would be on a Stormtalon that was converted no ?

No, they would not. If you convert you use the model as is. If that penalizes you (because it grants LoS in a position it normally wouldn't) you get to suck it up.

There is a player (the owner, mind you) at the local FLGS who uses the OLD Mek Gunz because they are some 30% of the size of the oversized and overpriced new ones.

And? Does he use them because they're smaller, or because he already had them?

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Waaagh! Warbiker






rigeld2 wrote:
 Awfeel wrote:
They would be on a Stormtalon that was converted no ?

No, they would not. If you convert you use the model as is. If that penalizes you (because it grants LoS in a position it normally wouldn't) you get to suck it up.

There is a player (the owner, mind you) at the local FLGS who uses the OLD Mek Gunz because they are some 30% of the size of the oversized and overpriced new ones.

And? Does he use them because they're smaller, or because he already had them?


Because they're smaller.

He brags about it.

There isn't a rule against it and he's the owner. Guess I have to suck that up too...

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Decrepit Dakkanaut




 Awfeel wrote:


The kneeling wraithlord thing was a huge thing yeah I remember haha.

The new guns are totally overprice per point.

In fact...

If you take ONE ork trukk and ONE mek gun box

You can make FOUR mek guns and have spare parts left over..

(I can link you the conversion if you would like to see it)

And that isn't even for the cost of two guns..

Theyre overpriced.

I stated their cost per point is way off. For what you actually get in the kit, it is a good price - lovely model, lots of grots, and every weapon. Again, the units cost in game-points is not the only measure of its worth.
   
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Waaagh! Warbiker







My point of the post was that the amount of plastic in that box is overpriced.

I can, for JUST UNDER THE COST OF ONE GUN, make 3 guns from one trukk sprue..

The points cost is insult to injury.

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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

 Awfeel wrote:
Objectives need to be 12" apart.

The only way it could be any different is with the relic, in which case it becomes very obvious since the relic is tied to a unit.

No?

But units can claim an objective if they are withing 3 inches of it, so a 6.1 inch long vehicle, like a Land Raider, positioned just right can be in range of both objectives, and if they have a unit embarked they both can claim one objective.
 Awfeel wrote:
I have never seen or heard of a Tau Manta, Nor do I think wingspan modeled on anything being relevant as it is not the hull.

Wings are definitely hull on a vehicle...

"Note that, unlike for other models, a vehicle’s wings are not ornamental and are a part of its hull." (Vehicles chapter, Vehicles in the shooting phase section, Shooting at vehicles sub-section).

"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.

I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!

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Confessor Of Sins






A much easier example is the Bastion.. diagonal is nearly 8 inches, so it could easily control 2 objectives with the unit inside.

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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar





New Orleans

We put a Land Raider on the table and it could hold one and the troops the other if they are 12' apart and the raider is in the middle sideways.


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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

 Mythra wrote:
We put a Land Raider on the table and it could hold one and the troops the other if they are 12' apart and the raider is in the middle sideways.


I know. Thus why I said:
Deathreaper wrote: a Land Raider, positioned just right can be in range of both objectives

"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.

I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!

We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
 
   
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Killer Klaivex




Oceanside, CA

Doesn't even need to be that big.
You need to be within 3" of an objective.
Objectives may not be closer than 12" from other objectives.
If a hull is over 6", the unit embarked can be within 3" of both, if the transport parks between them.

I think you can even do this with a rhino, if you park at an angle.


 thedarkavenger wrote:

So. I got a game with this list in. First game in at least 3-4 months.
 
   
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

 HawaiiMatt wrote:
Doesn't even need to be that big.
You need to be within 3" of an objective.
Objectives may not be closer than 12" from other objectives.
If a hull is over 6", the unit embarked can be within 3" of both, if the transport parks between them.


That is why I said.

 DeathReaper wrote:
so a 6.1 inch long vehicle...

"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.

I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!

We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





 Awfeel wrote:


The kneeling wraithlord thing was a huge thing yeah I remember haha.

The new guns are totally overprice per point.

In fact...

If you take ONE ork trukk and ONE mek gun box

You can make FOUR mek guns and have spare parts left over..

(I can link you the conversion if you would like to see it)

And that isn't even for the cost of two guns..

Theyre overpriced.


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