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Probably best to attach explosives to everyone so when you lose the officers can detonate them so you can take some enemies with you.

 Lord Tarkin wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
How wasteful, why are they not told to fight to the death to avoid capture instead?

Because Dark Eldar revel in capturing and then torturing their victims for all eternity. The things they do are terrible. Put that las pistol to your head and make it quick.

That's... not generally how the Imperium works. The Imperium cares not for the suffering of its citizens, only that their lives are spent to the preservation of the Imperium.

Um, if you were fighting Dark Eldar and you had the choice to blow your brains out or be forever tortured...which would you choose? I mean, I would just kill myself, honestly.

But that's just what I believe and since the information I refer to doesn't exist on Lexicanum anymore, it can't be proven.


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 Ashiraya wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
How wasteful, why are they not told to fight to the death to avoid capture instead?

Because Dark Eldar revel in capturing and then torturing their victims for all eternity. The things they do are terrible. Put that las pistol to your head and make it quick.

You may as well keep shooting at them so they are forced to kill you?

And if they disarm and net you or whatever, then you can bite your tongue.

You know what, I would just put a dozen lethal pills in my mouth and continue fighting. Then when they got me and are dragging me away...I swallow....and I die. Problem solved.

You're doing it wrong. Sacrifice yourself to Slaanesh as a last F-U to the Dark Eldar, either so just one Daemonette is summoned from your corpse, or a whole army of them pops out of no-where to tear the Dark Eldar a new one.

 Thorgrim Bloodcrow wrote:

morganfreeman wrote:

 fallinq wrote:
Also, DE can keep people alive almost indefinitely for torture. When I read some fluff about someone who had basically had all their body parts (organs, skin, nervous system, etc.) surgically opened up, but was still kept alive and fully conscious by a Haemonculus... well that pretty much settled it for me.

Don't forget that DE can literally turn you into furniture.

One of the Haemy covens has a gigantic tower built from the still living flesh of their tortured subjects. They're all still alive, just put to new use as walls, floors, ceilings, tables, ect. Imagine having your hyper stimulated nerve bundles walked on every day for the rest of eternity. Lanterns and stuff down in the haemy lairs are also just living subjects. They weave them into the wall, pry their mouth open, and use it as a place to hold burning flames. They will not let you die; the rest of your existence, which could be until the Dark City falls, will be to have a flame constantly burning inside of your body.

Source?

Not calling anyone out, just very interested in reading up more on all of this

The source for DE turning you into furniture is in the 5th ed codex. I can't remember the exact page, but it's not terribly hard to find. I believe it's in the part where they describe all the aspects of the dark city.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Those Marked by Slaanesh scare the Dark Eldar, for they know that once they lose their souls will be given to Her so that He may feast.

They may scare everyone else, but those given to Slaanesh are their true fear.

I don't really think so. At least, not the more powerful Dark Eldar.
A Dark Eldar is practically immortal. As long as even the tiniest shred of their body can be recovered, the Heamonculi can completely regrow it and snatch the soul away from Slaanesh's jaws.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Those Marked by Slaanesh scare the Dark Eldar, for they know that once they lose their souls will be given to Her so that He may feast.

They may scare everyone else, but those given to Slaanesh are their true fear.

I don't really think so. At least, not the more powerful Dark Eldar.
A Dark Eldar is practically immortal. As long as even the tiniest shred of their body can be recovered, the Heamonculi can completely regrow it and snatch the soul away from Slaanesh's jaws.

That doesn't bring back the soul when an actual daemon kills them.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
How wasteful, why are they not told to fight to the death to avoid capture instead?

Because Dark Eldar revel in capturing and then torturing their victims for all eternity. The things they do are terrible. Put that las pistol to your head and make it quick.

That's... not generally how the Imperium works. The Imperium cares not for the suffering of its citizens, only that their lives are spent to the preservation of the Imperium.

Except that if they are captured then they lives go to feeding their enemies. So it would be understandable if they were told to kill themselves instead.

As to the Op I would give it to the DE, unlike the csm, were there is a chance that you will die in the the battle. The weapons that the DE will have for the battle will just put you in such pain that you will not be able to move. Also, DE are not afraid of Chaos, just Slaanesh, and even then the higher ranking DE are not afraid of her\him. They will attack csm just as readily as they will to any other race, and they have tech that will make it so that disconnects the warp. It is in the word bearer trilogy, second book, the DE capture a Dark Apostle and are able to disconnect him from the warp through a device, thus they are safe from chaos.

I dont think theres such a thing as better it like which is better getting mauled by a shark or a lion. But if i gad to id say chaos at least theres a chance for conversion.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Those Marked by Slaanesh scare the Dark Eldar, for they know that once they lose their souls will be given to Her so that He may feast.

They may scare everyone else, but those given to Slaanesh are their true fear.

I don't really think so. At least, not the more powerful Dark Eldar.
A Dark Eldar is practically immortal. As long as even the tiniest shred of their body can be recovered, the Heamonculi can completely regrow it and snatch the soul away from Slaanesh's jaws.

Unless of course a Sorcerer can rip it from them before they recover, we've got plenty of cases of souls being sacrificed to gods while alive and ripped out.

I wonder what the soul-less husk would end up like

I give the edge to Chaos. The Dark Eldar are supreme when inflicting pain upon the body, while Chaos reaves the soul.

I vote CSM hands down. I think fighting your daemon possessed, Warp-twisted brothers in arms is far more terrifying than an army of David Bowies from Labyrinth. Add in the fact that the Chaos Gods are much more powerful and have plans of how to twist the empire of man against itself, whereas the DE are just pirates raiding the universe with no real endgame.

Hmm, all Dark Eldar are sadistic fiends, so being captured by them is pretty bad.

Chaos is a mixed bunch and would depend on who you would be captured by. If, say, you were captured by the Night Lords and were useful, you could lead out the rest of your days in servitude. If you aren't useful you could be turned into someones cloak, which I guess is useful, but not great for you.

Emperors Children, tortured for the amusement and pleasure of your captors and possibly distilled into some form of cocktail.

Word Bearers, ritual flesh for a neverborn or slave labour, then ritual flesh.

Iron Warriors, meat shields and Slave labour.

Niether would be much fun really, but I think Dark Eldar would be the worst as they all share a hunger for inflicting pain on their pets.

Clearly DE

If you are captured by Chaos marines, there is only a 10% chance that the csm that captured you are perverted slanneshi followers, which means there is a 90% chance of a relatively quick death. Even if you are unlucky and taken back to the eye by slanneshi followers, the factions of csm are always fighting and a warband of non slaneshi followers might later take you and give you a relatively quick death, so there is always hope.

If you are captured by DE, there is a 100% chance of you being tortured beyond your limits and only killed after you have exprienced more pain than your soul is capable of. And there is no chance of escape.

The Forces of Chaos are a greater threat. They're bigger, stronger, and a lot more likely to conquer your homeplanet.

The Dark Eldar, though. Maybe they can't afford to be as loud and open as the Forces of Chaos, and maybe they don't wage wars like the Traitor Legions do, but they're much scarier. They kill you slowly, and they make sure you're awake to take in every second of it.

It depends on the Chaos Marines doesn't it?

The Alpha Legion will probably give you a quick, clean death. Might not even see it coming or know what's happening.

The Emperor's Children? Well, that uh, that's a different story, lol.

Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

Or Night Lords, who are pretty much Dark Eldar lite. Possibly just as bad, I forget if they can keep people alive for a long time if they want to.

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

I don't know about that.

An Iron Warrior Warpsmith might put your soul in constant, eternal agony to fuel some cool ass Daemon engine, and a Plaguemarine might concoct a plague that damns your soul to eternal despair in Nurgle's garden.

People need to realize that with Chaos, death isn't always the end for its victims.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

I don't know about that.

An Iron Warrior Warpsmith might put your soul in constant, eternal agony to fuel some cool ass Daemon engine, and a Plaguemarine might concoct a plague that damns your soul to eternal despair in Nurgle's garden.

People need to realize that with Chaos, death isn't always the end for its victims.

Well yeah, but overall, DE are worse. Imo


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 Wyzilla wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

Or Night Lords, who are pretty much Dark Eldar lite. Possibly just as bad, I forget if they can keep people alive for a long time if they want to.

Didn't Kurze capture Vulkan and torture him? Then tried to kill him but couldn't because Vulkans regen was wayyyy to great.

My vote is dark eldar.

I remember reading a book not to long ago (path of the renegade maybe) that told how the Dark eldar could kill you, bring you back to life and do it again.


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 Lord Tarkin wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

I don't know about that.

An Iron Warrior Warpsmith might put your soul in constant, eternal agony to fuel some cool ass Daemon engine, and a Plaguemarine might concoct a plague that damns your soul to eternal despair in Nurgle's garden.

People need to realize that with Chaos, death isn't always the end for its victims.

Well yeah, but overall, DE are worse. Imo


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 Wyzilla wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

Or Night Lords, who are pretty much Dark Eldar lite. Possibly just as bad, I forget if they can keep people alive for a long time if they want to.

Didn't Kurze capture Vulkan and torture him? Then tried to kill him but couldn't because Vulkans regen was wayyyy to great.

Vulkan is actually a perpetual

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

I don't know about that.

An Iron Warrior Warpsmith might put your soul in constant, eternal agony to fuel some cool ass Daemon engine, and a Plaguemarine might concoct a plague that damns your soul to eternal despair in Nurgle's garden.

People need to realize that with Chaos, death isn't always the end for its victims.

On the flip-side, the Dark Eldar will most likely never let you die. And even if they do, they still capture, torture, eat, and use souls.

 morganfreeman wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

I don't know about that.

An Iron Warrior Warpsmith might put your soul in constant, eternal agony to fuel some cool ass Daemon engine, and a Plaguemarine might concoct a plague that damns your soul to eternal despair in Nurgle's garden.

People need to realize that with Chaos, death isn't always the end for its victims.

On the flip-side, the Dark Eldar will most likely never let you die. And even if they do, they still capture, torture, eat, and use souls.

Of course they will. They have plenty more prisoners coming. They can't afford to spend attention on a single human for too long, besides, it would bore them. You also take up space.

They'll kill you eventually (Even if it feels like centuries, for obvious reasons)

 Lord Tarkin wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

I don't know about that.

An Iron Warrior Warpsmith might put your soul in constant, eternal agony to fuel some cool ass Daemon engine, and a Plaguemarine might concoct a plague that damns your soul to eternal despair in Nurgle's garden.

People need to realize that with Chaos, death isn't always the end for its victims.

Well yeah, but overall, DE are worse. Imo


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 Wyzilla wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

Or Night Lords, who are pretty much Dark Eldar lite. Possibly just as bad, I forget if they can keep people alive for a long time if they want to.

Didn't Kurze capture Vulkan and torture him? Then tried to kill him but couldn't because Vulkans regen was wayyyy to great.

1) It's Curze, not Kurze.

2) No, Vulkan's a perpetual. Kurze IIRC killed him a couple times but he kept respawning.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

I don't know about that.

An Iron Warrior Warpsmith might put your soul in constant, eternal agony to fuel some cool ass Daemon engine, and a Plaguemarine might concoct a plague that damns your soul to eternal despair in Nurgle's garden.

People need to realize that with Chaos, death isn't always the end for its victims.

Well yeah, but overall, DE are worse. Imo


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 Wyzilla wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:
Put simply: As long as the Chaos Marines are not Emperors Children, you should be fine. Just run at a KB. He will give you a nice clean death.

Or Night Lords, who are pretty much Dark Eldar lite. Possibly just as bad, I forget if they can keep people alive for a long time if they want to.

Didn't Kurze capture Vulkan and torture him? Then tried to kill him but couldn't because Vulkans regen was wayyyy to great.

1) It's Curze, not Kurze.

2) No, Vulkan's a perpetual. Kurze IIRC killed him a couple times but he kept respawning.

A couple times? More like several times.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Lord Tarkin wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
How wasteful, why are they not told to fight to the death to avoid capture instead?

Because Dark Eldar revel in capturing and then torturing their victims for all eternity. The things they do are terrible. Put that las pistol to your head and make it quick.

You may as well keep shooting at them so they are forced to kill you?

And if they disarm and net you or whatever, then you can bite your tongue.

One of the biggest fears about being tortured by the DE is that they have amazing life support systems, they see youre bleeding out, they just laugh that you got started without them and hook you up to the life support before anyone else.

If you're really lucky, the Dark Eldar will have their Haemonculi covens turn you into some sort of flesh puppet thing like a Grotesque or Talos/Cronos.