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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 13:01:09
Subject: Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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"hey guys, how about we play with a slightly different table today?"
"Yeah, sure, cool. What are you thinking? Lots of forest?"
"I was thinking we use a 40' x 60' board.. deployment is 12" from border, GO!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 13:13:02
Subject: Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Purifier wrote:"hey guys, how about we play with a slightly different table today?"
"Yeah, sure, cool. What are you thinking? Lots of forest?"
"I was thinking we use a 40' x 60' board.. deployment is 12" from border, GO!"
"Hey guys, who's up for 40K? I'll start in the store across the road..."
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Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
H.B.M.C: You can't lobotomise someone twice. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 14:48:34
Subject: Re:Still the strongest unit...for now.
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Sigvatr wrote:3 Transcendent C'tan. Or...basically...any large AP2 pie plates.
A Baneblade puts out a 10" Blast Str9 Ap2 shot at 72".
Plus a twin-heavy bolter, and Autocannon and a Demolisher Cannon (Str10 Ap2 5" Blast, 24")
For 525 points. Automatically Appended Next Post: liquidjoshi wrote: Purifier wrote:"hey guys, how about we play with a slightly different table today?"
"Yeah, sure, cool. What are you thinking? Lots of forest?"
"I was thinking we use a 40' x 60' board.. deployment is 12" from border, GO!"
"Hey guys, who's up for 40K? I'll start in the store across the road..."
"Why did the chicken-"
"Oh."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 18:50:56
Subject: Re:Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Selym wrote: AlmightyWalrus wrote:I'm pretty sure that the answer, as always, is "Imperator Titan". I don't care how many attacks you have, I have a 720" range.
On a 4' x 6' board.
That actually makes it worse, seeing as the Imperator can have 12 Vortex Support Missiles for the additional cost of 0 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 19:16:22
Subject: Re:Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
In Warp Transit to next battlefield location, Destination Unknown
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Selym wrote: Sigvatr wrote:3 Transcendent C'tan. Or...basically...any large AP2 pie plates.
A Baneblade puts out a 10" Blast Str9 Ap2 shot at 72".
Plus a twin-heavy bolter, and Autocannon and a Demolisher Cannon (Str10 Ap2 5" Blast, 24")
For 525 points.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
liquidjoshi wrote: Purifier wrote:"hey guys, how about we play with a slightly different table today?"
"Yeah, sure, cool. What are you thinking? Lots of forest?"
"I was thinking we use a 40' x 60' board.. deployment is 12" from border, GO!"
"Hey guys, who's up for 40K? I'll start in the store across the road..."
"Why did the chicken-"
"Oh."
Now if that chicken is a commander of an IG Deathstrike Battery, he does not have to leave his house.
Deathstrikes have unlimited range. Automatically Appended Next Post: Jidmah wrote:The last two are units created by formations from the Waaagh! Ghazghkull supplement - Council of Waaagh and Green Tide. I simply assumed that not everyone reading this has the W!G book, so I listed its content. You can't take that many nobz in a tide though, but you could take up to 290 boyz + 10 nobz + warboss as a single unit.
I would love to see that on the table as a single troop choice/unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 20:42:55
Subject: Re:Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: Selym wrote: AlmightyWalrus wrote:I'm pretty sure that the answer, as always, is "Imperator Titan". I don't care how many attacks you have, I have a 720" range.
On a 4' x 6' board.
That actually makes it worse, seeing as the Imperator can have 12 Vortex Support Missiles for the additional cost of 0 points.
Unless the Emperor Titan has been updated which I highly doubt, then there is some slight misconceptions. Firstly, the longest ranged weapon the Emperor has is the Doomsday Missile Launcher.
Rg 36" to 540"
Str 8
AP 3
Apoc Barrage 10
Armed with 2 such weapons it can't engage ANYTHING within 36" as its carapace mounts also have a minimum range of 36. Also not the weapon is suitable for neither armour nor ID on T5, nor 2+ saves.
A better weapon would be the Vengeance Cannon or Helstorm Cannon
Vengeance
Rg 360"
Str D
AP2
Heavy 4, 7" Blast (what replaced the 7" template in the newest update)
Helstorm
Rg 96"
Str 9
AP3
Ordnance 8, Apoc Large Blast
One of each is acceptable. The former enagages vehicles, super heavies, 2+ saves and units with good Invulnerables like Hammernators, Zoanthropes and Grimoirestars.
The latter can bully MEQ and any T4 multiwound model with less than 2+ save.
As for carapace weapons, it can carry 6 not 12. And all Vortex missiles is bad. They have a mimimum 48" range and are 1 shot weapons, meaning after use the titan has but its 2 arm guns.
For carapace weapons you should use no more than 2x Vortex and the others should be 4 Volcano Cannoms. 120", Str D and Large Blast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 20:52:45
Subject: Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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20 seekers + herald of slannesh on steed (str 5 ap2 weapon) with a locus of beguilement is the most dangerous unit in the game. Let alone If you get 4++ and/or Grimoire and/or invis them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 20:55:56
Subject: Re:Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:I'm pretty sure that the answer, as always, is "Imperator Titan". I don't care how many attacks you have, I have a 720" range.
Manticore?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 21:05:42
Subject: Re:Still the strongest unit...for now.
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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As many Deathstrikes as would equal the titan's points, arranged in a *very* large circle around him? Something manageable though, like a 1 mile radius.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 21:29:19
Subject: Re:Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This went longer than I thought, but yes I meant single unit without support. Yes it's an utter waste of 2500 points, but it can kill anything in the game. I want to use this unit in one game of Apoc before the Blood Angels get a new book and the options disappear. Sadly it will more than likely die to a single AP2 10" template.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 21:38:40
Subject: Re:Still the strongest unit...for now.
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Goldphish wrote:This went longer than I thought, but yes I meant single unit without support. Yes it's an utter waste of 2500 points, but it can kill anything in the game. I want to use this unit in one game of Apoc before the Blood Angels get a new book and the options disappear. Sadly it will more than likely die to a single AP2 10" template.
It's gonna be fun to look at, but at best it's a glass hammer, or in large enough games a Distraction Carnifex.
But it's rather inefficient.
1 unit vs 1 unit could be rather effective if there is no points limit, but as you say, you're gonna have trouble with Ap2. Which is frighteningly plentiful in this era of 40k.
And StrD, just to remove the lube from what would already be some rather vicious butt-raep.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 21:58:41
Subject: Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Goldphish wrote:So now that Grey Knights is out and paladins got jacked, I have yet to see a unit that can compare to a kitted out Death Company Squad. Space Wolf Thunderwolf Cavalry is probably the closest thing I can think of. 150 S9 AP2 attacks on the charge is still impressive.

Wheres the chaplain?
Got to have that rerolling to hit and to wound
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I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/22 22:12:21
Subject: Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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10 wraithknights would do a good job shredding that unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 00:26:52
Subject: Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Toofast wrote:10 wraithknights would do a good job shredding that unit.
Actually....no. You would take massive casualties doing so. Only takes 2 (with chaplain) to down a wraith knight.
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I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:40:08
Subject: Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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Goldphish wrote:So now that Grey Knights is out and paladins got jacked, I have yet to see a unit that can compare to a kitted out Death Company Squad. Space Wolf Thunderwolf Cavalry is probably the closest thing I can think of. 150 S9 AP2 attacks on the charge is still impressive.[/url]
What do you DO with that many attacks? you went beyond the realm of overkill and into the realm of pointlessness.
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can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:56:19
Subject: Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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BoomWolf wrote: Goldphish wrote:So now that Grey Knights is out and paladins got jacked, I have yet to see a unit that can compare to a kitted out Death Company Squad. Space Wolf Thunderwolf Cavalry is probably the closest thing I can think of. 150 S9 AP2 attacks on the charge is still impressive.[/url]
What do you DO with that many attacks? you went beyond the realm of overkill and into the realm of pointlessness.
Depending on your rolls, its barley enough to kill a Eldar Phantom titan. So it's not quite pointless. If it could ever get to charge a Phantom is another story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 09:36:01
Subject: Still the strongest unit...for now.
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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BoomWolf wrote: Goldphish wrote:So now that Grey Knights is out and paladins got jacked, I have yet to see a unit that can compare to a kitted out Death Company Squad. Space Wolf Thunderwolf Cavalry is probably the closest thing I can think of. 150 S9 AP2 attacks on the charge is still impressive.[/url]
What do you DO with that many attacks? you went beyond the realm of overkill and into the realm of pointlessness.
Pasta sauce has to come from somewhere.
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Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
H.B.M.C: You can't lobotomise someone twice. |
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