Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 CrownAxe wrote:
Another good point for being able to get both focuses is that if you let non-generated powers prevents psychic focus then Force is technically a power and there for would prevent psychic focus as well.

Force is a non-Discipline power and therefore does not count when determining Psychic Focus.

Same with Ezekiel's Mind Worm power (or whatever it is called).

 CrownAxe wrote:
Another good point for being able to get both focuses is that if you let non-generated powers prevents psychic focus then Force is technically a power and there for would prevent psychic focus as well.

Except only powers that belong to a discipline other then your psychic focus prevent having focus. Force does not belong to any discipline and thus does not apply. (which is why it's specifically used as an example in that section of the psychic rules.)

Edit: Nevermind. I didn't realise there was a second page to the thread.

regardless, chaos psychic focus in of itself is not a generated power and does not prevent having psychic focus.

of course in the case of thousand sons having to generate a power from your marked table, means you will never get psychic focus.

So lets see if I have his right.
I have a GUO with 3 master levels
I roll twice on biomancy (don't get iron arm) and have not swaped out for smite. I then roll again, gain Iron Arm, then auto generate Smite due to only rolling on the same chat.

I will then loose Smite, as due to me being a Daemon of Nurgle I will gain Pestilence breath.

Now say I roll on Biomancy, get Iron Arm and Life leech, then decide to go for Nurgle for Plague Wind, and get it. I would then also gain Pestilence breath.

Seems easy enough to me (now anyway)

chocmushroom wrote:
So lets see if I have his right.
I have a GUO with 3 master levels
I roll twice on biomancy (don't get iron arm) and have not swaped out for smite. I then roll again, gain Iron Arm, then auto generate Smite due to only rolling on the same chat.

I will then loose Smite, as due to me being a Daemon of Nurgle I will gain Pestilence breath.

Now say I roll on Biomancy, get Iron Arm and Life leech, then decide to go for Nurgle for Plague Wind, and get it. I would then also gain Pestilence breath.

Seems easy enough to me (now anyway)

What is Pestilence breath?

 DeathReaper wrote:

chocmushroom wrote:
So lets see if I have his right.
I have a GUO with 3 master levels
I roll twice on biomancy (don't get iron arm) and have not swaped out for smite. I then roll again, gain Iron Arm, then auto generate Smite due to only rolling on the same chat.

I will then loose Smite, as due to me being a Daemon of Nurgle I will gain Pestilence breath.

Now say I roll on Biomancy, get Iron Arm and Life leech, then decide to go for Nurgle for Plague Wind, and get it. I would then also gain Pestilence breath.

Seems easy enough to me (now anyway)

What is Pestilence breath?

It's me thinking about the spell, and getting the Skaven version and not the Nurgle version .

I did off cause mean 'Stream of Corruption'

chocmushroom wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

chocmushroom wrote:
So lets see if I have his right.
I have a GUO with 3 master levels
I roll twice on biomancy (don't get iron arm) and have not swaped out for smite. I then roll again, gain Iron Arm, then auto generate Smite due to only rolling on the same chat.

I will then loose Smite, as due to me being a Daemon of Nurgle I will gain Pestilence breath.

Now say I roll on Biomancy, get Iron Arm and Life leech, then decide to go for Nurgle for Plague Wind, and get it. I would then also gain Pestilence breath.

Seems easy enough to me (now anyway)

What is Pestilence breath?

It's me thinking about the spell, and getting the Skaven version and not the Nurgle version .

I did off cause mean 'Stream of Corruption'

In that case, a Daemon of Nurgle can have Psychic Focus and Chaos Psychic Focus if it generates all of its powers from a single discipline.

This is because the power associated with Chaos Psychic Focus (that being Stream of Corruption) is never generated as per the rules for generating powers in the BRB

So if you roll twice on biomancy (don't get iron arm) and have not swaped out for smite. Then you roll again, gain Iron Arm, and gain Smite due to Psychic Focus (Note the power you gain through Psychic Focus is not a generated power). You will not lose (Not loose) Smite, as Pestilence breath is never generated as per the rules for power generation in the BRB..