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 Hordini wrote:

 purplefood wrote:
This must be a first...

Quick! Someone lock and sticky this thread. It will serve as a nice trophy on the mantelpiece of Dakka OT.

Well I disagree.

 MrDwhitey wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 purplefood wrote:
This must be a first...

Quick! Someone lock and sticky this thread. It will serve as a nice trophy on the mantelpiece of Dakka OT.

Well I disagree.

No you don't!

Oh damn it! It's ruined now, isn't it? Nevermind, call it off! I guess we'll have to keep this thread going then.


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Why do religion threads always have to turn into arguments like this?

 Hordini wrote:
Oh damn it! It's ruined now, isn't it? Nevermind, call it off! I guess we'll have to keep this thread going then.


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Why do religion threads always have to turn into arguments like this?

Rules of Hats Rule #3; Never expect civility in a thread about religion

I need a webpage where I can just put those up for easy reference

That's why this one would have made such a nice trophy! Before someone had to go and ruin it...

Hit him with a smaller trespassing charge. That way he still gets punished for being stupid (at least stupid enough to post it online) and everybody can move on.

Agree with D. Trespassing okay...the rest of it is a joke.

Fireraven wrote:
Well you can say tresspassing. It on privite property and he for sure did not have permission to do this. Kind of like someone jumping your fence kicking your dog.

Except it doesn't share the maliciousness or harm that animal cruelty has.

Well, Everett sounds like an unbearably stick-up-bum place to live. Poor kid.

feeder wrote:
Well, Everett sounds like an unbearably stick-up-bum place to live. Poor kid.

Confirmed. I live in Bedford, fifteen minutes away (and really no better in this respect). Hell, I just now realized that this was in Everett and I did a google Maps street view reference to the Love ITNOC location and can confirm that this photo was taken in front of the building. I haven't passed that way recently because the main bridge that leads there is undergoing repairs.

But having grown up in southern PA for most of my life, you'll understand me wanting to escape to Maryland to avoid the local radio. One of the stations I believe is in Everett, run by a Mormon, and hosts nothing but Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and the like with their conservative patriotism/nationalism/facism hate mongering.

 Wilytank wrote:

feeder wrote:
Well, Everett sounds like an unbearably stick-up-bum place to live. Poor kid.

Confirmed. I live in Bedford, fifteen minutes away (and really no better in this respect). Hell, I just now realized that this was in Everett and I did a google Maps street view reference to the Love ITNOC location and can confirm that this photo was taken in front of the building. I haven't passed that way recently because the main bridge that leads there is undergoing repairs.

But having grown up in southern PA for most of my life, you'll understand me wanting to escape to Maryland to avoid the local radio. One of the stations I believe is in Everett, run by a Mormon, and hosts nothing but Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and the like with their conservative patriotism/nationalism/facism hate mongering.

Not a lot of genre-defining Swedish death metal on the local radio eh?

 Wilytank wrote:

feeder wrote:
Well, Everett sounds like an unbearably stick-up-bum place to live. Poor kid.

Confirmed. I live in Bedford, fifteen minutes away (and really no better in this respect). Hell, I just now realized that this was in Everett and I did a google Maps street view reference to the Love ITNOC location and can confirm that this photo was taken in front of the building. I haven't passed that way recently because the main bridge that leads there is undergoing repairs.

But having grown up in southern PA for most of my life, you'll understand me wanting to escape to Maryland to avoid the local radio. One of the stations I believe is in Everett, run by a Mormon, and hosts nothing but Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and the like with their conservative patriotism/nationalism/facism hate mongering.

Not paragons of respect and understanding like the kid in the picture, eh?

Relapse wrote:

 Wilytank wrote:

feeder wrote:
Well, Everett sounds like an unbearably stick-up-bum place to live. Poor kid.

Confirmed. I live in Bedford, fifteen minutes away (and really no better in this respect). Hell, I just now realized that this was in Everett and I did a google Maps street view reference to the Love ITNOC location and can confirm that this photo was taken in front of the building. I haven't passed that way recently because the main bridge that leads there is undergoing repairs.

But having grown up in southern PA for most of my life, you'll understand me wanting to escape to Maryland to avoid the local radio. One of the stations I believe is in Everett, run by a Mormon, and hosts nothing but Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and the like with their conservative patriotism/nationalism/facism hate mongering.

Not paragons of respect and understanding like the kid in the picture, eh?

Heh. I think this kid would fall under the trailer trash category. We've got a fair share of that around here too.

Relapse wrote:

 Wilytank wrote:

feeder wrote:
Well, Everett sounds like an unbearably stick-up-bum place to live. Poor kid.

Confirmed. I live in Bedford, fifteen minutes away (and really no better in this respect). Hell, I just now realized that this was in Everett and I did a google Maps street view reference to the Love ITNOC location and can confirm that this photo was taken in front of the building. I haven't passed that way recently because the main bridge that leads there is undergoing repairs.

But having grown up in southern PA for most of my life, you'll understand me wanting to escape to Maryland to avoid the local radio. One of the stations I believe is in Everett, run by a Mormon, and hosts nothing but Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and the like with their conservative patriotism/nationalism/facism hate mongering.

Not paragons of respect and understanding like the kid in the picture, eh?

He's a fourteen year old kid. Come on, man. Turn the other cheek. That this is even a thing that is happening and important grown ups are going along with it is asinine.

feeder wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Wilytank wrote:

feeder wrote:
Well, Everett sounds like an unbearably stick-up-bum place to live. Poor kid.

Confirmed. I live in Bedford, fifteen minutes away (and really no better in this respect). Hell, I just now realized that this was in Everett and I did a google Maps street view reference to the Love ITNOC location and can confirm that this photo was taken in front of the building. I haven't passed that way recently because the main bridge that leads there is undergoing repairs.

But having grown up in southern PA for most of my life, you'll understand me wanting to escape to Maryland to avoid the local radio. One of the stations I believe is in Everett, run by a Mormon, and hosts nothing but Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and the like with their conservative patriotism/nationalism/facism hate mongering.

Not paragons of respect and understanding like the kid in the picture, eh?

He's a fourteen year old kid. Come on, man. Turn the other cheek. That this is even a thing that is happening and important grown ups are going along with it is asinine.

Guess he's going to learn the hard way not to be a dick. I doubt he'll get any two year sentence, the act doesn't merit something that severe,, but what he did was way over the line.

Yeah, he hasn't been sentenced yet so we all ought to take a deep breath and save that rage for when it actually comes down. All y'all freaking out about this are gonna look mighty silly when he gets sentenced to two weeks of community service.

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, he hasn't been sentenced yet so we all ought to take a deep breath and save that rage for when it actually comes down. All y'all freaking out about this are gonna look mighty silly when he gets sentenced to two weeks of community service.

I think the point people are trying to get across here is that he should not be sentenced to anything. The church didn't press charges.

So, I think people will still have an issue with the two weeks community service.

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, he hasn't been sentenced yet so we all ought to take a deep breath and save that rage for when it actually comes down. All y'all freaking out about this are gonna look mighty silly when he gets sentenced to two weeks of community service.

I think the point people are trying to get across here is that he should not be sentenced to anything. The church didn't press charges.

So, I think people will still have an issue with the two weeks community service.

The fact that he is charged with anything at all is ludicrous. If one thinks this kid deserves any kind of punishment at all then one really cannot affect outrage over Sharia Law.

feeder wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, he hasn't been sentenced yet so we all ought to take a deep breath and save that rage for when it actually comes down. All y'all freaking out about this are gonna look mighty silly when he gets sentenced to two weeks of community service.

I think the point people are trying to get across here is that he should not be sentenced to anything. The church didn't press charges.

So, I think people will still have an issue with the two weeks community service.

The fact that he is charged with anything at all is ludicrous. If one thinks this kid deserves any kind of punishment at all then one really cannot affect outrage over Sharia Law.

Trespassing I could see, if the church wanted to press for it. Although I'm not sure that you could be charged with it unless the area is posted as such or after you have been asked to leave.

I don't think that religious property should get any more special protection than any other property. Saying that some property is more special than other property (aka you can teabag this statue but not that statue) is just silly and seems to be counter to the 1st.

To be sent to prison for playing leapfrog with your best friend is just stupid, I don't care how special that lawn is.

I would agree that trespassing would be a stretch given most churches are essentially open to anyone who wants to get in touch with Jesus.

And the law in question does sound dangerously close to an anti blasphemy law, which I would suggest is unconstitutional.

feeder wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, he hasn't been sentenced yet so we all ought to take a deep breath and save that rage for when it actually comes down. All y'all freaking out about this are gonna look mighty silly when he gets sentenced to two weeks of community service.

I think the point people are trying to get across here is that he should not be sentenced to anything. The church didn't press charges.

So, I think people will still have an issue with the two weeks community service.

The fact that he is charged with anything at all is ludicrous. If one thinks this kid deserves any kind of punishment at all then one really cannot affect outrage over Sharia Law.

That's a huge stretch, docha think? This kid would most likely be getting executed or scourged if he did something comparably idiotic against Muslim beliefs in a country where Sharia law held sway.


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 SilverMK2 wrote:
I would agree that trespassing would be a stretch given most churches are essentially open to anyone who wants to get in touch with Jesus.

And the law in question does sound dangerously close to an anti blasphemy law, which I would suggest is unconstitutional.

He clearly wasn't there for purposes of religion but desecration and disrespect to people's beliefs.

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, he hasn't been sentenced yet so we all ought to take a deep breath and save that rage for when it actually comes down. All y'all freaking out about this are gonna look mighty silly when he gets sentenced to two weeks of community service.

Buddy Christ agrees…

Hope he doesn't go to jail just gets beat up ....alot and badly, I can volunteer for it do something disrespectful for no reason other then to annoy then you deserve what you get. Little .... parents should be charged for raising a jack arse tho.

OgreChubbs wrote:
Hope he doesn't go to jail just gets beat up ....alot and badly, I can volunteer for it do something disrespectful for no reason other then to annoy then you deserve what you get. Little .... parents should be charged for raising a jack arse tho.

Ya know, it's post's like this that make me think I'm glad I'm not Christian… Surely if you live by the book you should just, ya know, forgive him? Sure, he was an ass and deserves to rapped on the knuckles. But a beating?

It has nothing to do with being christian I just believe if you do something that disrespects someone for no reason other then to upset someone then you deserve what you get. It would be one thing to do something disrespectful if it meant no harm but to do harm to others for no reason other then being a arse..... Ya get what you get and a beaten early on will teach him a good lesson be a ass at your own risk.

OgreChubbs wrote:
It has nothing to do with being christian I just believe if you do something that disrespects someone for no reason other then to upset someone then you deserve what you get. It would be one thing to do something disrespectful if it meant no harm but to do harm to others for no reason other then being a arse..... Ya get what you get and a beaten early on will teach him a good lesson be a ass at your own risk.

Who did he harm exactly?

OgreChubbs wrote:
It has nothing to do with being christian I just believe if you do something that disrespects someone for no reason other then to upset someone then you deserve what you get. It would be one thing to do something disrespectful if it meant no harm but to do harm to others for no reason other then being a arse..... Ya get what you get and a beaten early on will teach him a good lesson be a ass at your own risk.

To be beaten because you are disrespectful would mean beating a lot of people dude. Not just kids, but Adults too…Other words that could be used to describe Disrespectful are: discourteous, rude, impolite, uncivil, unmannerly, ill-mannered, bad-mannered, ungracious, irreverent, inconsiderate; insolent, impudent, impertinent, cheeky, flippant, insubordinate, churlish; contemptuous, disdainful, derisive, scornful, disparaging, insulting, and abusive… Now I don't know about you, but I come across almost all of these on my drive to work in the morning!

However, where I am with you is that the parents could have done a better job in bringing the young man up...

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:
It has nothing to do with being christian I just believe if you do something that disrespects someone for no reason other then to upset someone then you deserve what you get. It would be one thing to do something disrespectful if it meant no harm but to do harm to others for no reason other then being a arse..... Ya get what you get and a beaten early on will teach him a good lesson be a ass at your own risk.

Who did he harm exactly?

To a lot of people, for various reasons, a church is their safe place. Actions like the disrespect this kid shows can cause some degree of anguish to them. For me the fact that a kid does this means he needs to be disciplined, because he obviously hasn't learned respect for people at home.
I'm halfway suspecting he did this on a dare.

Relapse wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:
It has nothing to do with being christian I just believe if you do something that disrespects someone for no reason other then to upset someone then you deserve what you get. It would be one thing to do something disrespectful if it meant no harm but to do harm to others for no reason other then being a arse..... Ya get what you get and a beaten early on will teach him a good lesson be a ass at your own risk.

Who did he harm exactly?

To a lot of people, for various reasons, a church is their safe place. Actions like the disrespect this kid shows can cause some degree of anguish to them. For me the fact that a kid does this means he needs to be disciplined, because he obviously hasn't learned respect for people at home.
I'm halfway suspecting he did this on a dare.

You mean the fact that the church itself never pressed charges, and thus didn't consider this an act worth "Beating" someone over, seriously.