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Hollismason wrote:
I have...seen posts that you people wouldn't believe...threads flame out in YMDC over Scout move , user comments on Travon Martin from the General Discussion...All those...threads...on Gamer Gate...will be lost in time. Like..consolidation...into..close combat. Time...to..close..thread.

Exalted good sir

 MWHistorian wrote:
When a Pro-GW person comes on saying critics are mindless haters and should go away, yeah, that doesn't bring out the most positive atmosphere.

Seriously, go through all the threads and look at which ones were closed and why. You'll see a trend that marks a vocal minority of GW apologists being rude, trollish and with a strong desire to tell GW critics to shut up and go away.

Just like there are rude, trollish anti-GW people, who tell pro-GW people to shut up and go away. Don´t even try to make it out as one side being better than the other.

Also, great post Bob. Let´s just say the way I post is merely a precaution knowing I´m posting to DakkaDakka, because we all know what happens here no matter what and how you post when it comes to the topic of GW vs. alternatives.

 Azazelx wrote:

 Inquisitor Bob wrote:
I would like to bring attention to a growing concern within the dakka community in regards to the perception of moderator inactivity to decreasing insulting and aggressive behaviour that is souring the 40k forums
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If dakka is serious about providing a socially safe website that caters for friendly discussion then I would ask all the moderators to both caution and shut down aggressive and insulting attitudes on both sides of ANY arguments, not just the ones that disagree with Dakkas seeming direction of purposefully guiding players away from GW for whatever reason..

See, from my perspective, part of the problem with your argument here is this:

Posts: 143
Joined: 15/06/2014

So you've been a member for all of 4 months with a handful of posts - and now you've decided that you don't like the way this place is run, and can it be changed to meet your standards, please?

That kind of thing rankles me a bit. And I say this as someone who generally avoids the GW bitching threads, still buys the product (on occasion, though far less these days) and the 40k-specific forums for the most part. It's not that a low post count/new member can't have valuable ideas and thoughts and discussions to share. It's simply that it seems fairly common that new members/low posters start soap box threads to tell everyone else here that we're doing it wrong, and they're now here to tell us how to do it properly.

Whilst I understand your rankling at perceived presumption on my part, I had an old account for years that I no longer visited because of the way Dakka was heading (still is) I still remember the threads of hate for 5th... So yes I believe my point is still valid.. As I know that reporting insults and trolling didn't achieve much except only in the MOST EXTREMEME and obvious moments.. And yet saying both sides are as bad as each other in terms of violation of Dakka's user agreement got me deleted on more than one occasion (Even having Big Red replying to a locked post complaint with 'I do what I want if you don't like it.. tough'.. even on one occasion on this particular account for suggesting that if members wanted to do away with the "hater" tag they may want to be equally denunciating towards "apologists" tagging... but at least when Insaniak did so he did explain politely that he believed it would exacerbate a current fight, so I left well enough alone due to the respect I've had for his opinions for a few years now...
My attempt to highlight my opinion of a problem is not some 'one man war' nor when I say that I am looking to see the general consensus on Dakka on my opinion from less heard from Dakka member do I insinuate that I am 'testing the water'
I'm not being inflammatory for its own reason or to bump my posts (If I cared I'd probably put some more effort into finding the password to my old account but... I don't care how you perceive me.. only how you perceive my argument... What I'm after is the Easter bunny style hope that Dakka Dakka can hold a much higher ethical ground than GW by supporting a friendly social atmosphere of the largest Forum of 40k anywhere.. it why I have swallowed my pride put away the 'screw you guys I'm going home' attitude.. because a friendly Dakka is worth the fight... In my belief anyway..

Well I guess I will break the conspiracy of silence and unmask the evil moderator plan for oppressing people who criticize GW or people who defend GW or whatever the latest complaint is.

The truth is we don't see much point in threads started to complain about complaining.

Start a thread about something you think GW did well, fine.

Start a thread about something you think GW did poorly, fine.

Start a thread about how it is wrong that people disagree with you about GW or a thread that boils down to a tone argument* against people who disagree with you ... now you're just baiting a pointless meta-argument. And that's what we have here.

If you have any questions or complaints about moderation feel free to start a thread about it in the Nuts & Bolts sub-forum. Thanks.

* A tone argument is where you criticize how someone says something rather than what they say.