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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 19:56:04
Subject: Re:All AV14 Army?
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I played an Ork list against an IG AV14 wall last week. I just happened to have made up a double MANZ list, I also had to up my list to 1500 pts (from 1250) so I added some tankbustas and deffcoptas with rockets. I was able to deal with the list pretty well. Of course if he had tried to move at all it might have been a different story. He was willing to let me motor in with my klaws and wreck stuff. By the time he tried to move and push me off objectives it was too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 19:58:09
Subject: All AV14 Army?
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Here is a 1850 list that might do well. Only 1 squad of scouts not in AV14:
IF CT:
MotF (In an inquisition LR)
5 scouts
Bolters
5 scouts (In LRR)
Ccw + bp
Land raider redeemer
Multimelta
Typhon heavy seige tank
Ceremite
2 Vengeance weapon batteries
Both with battle cannons
Allies
Inquisitor (In LR)
Servo skull
3 acolytes
1 bolter
Landraider crusader
Psybolts, multimelta
3 acolytes
Landraider crusader
Psybolts, multimelta
3 acolytes
Landraider crusader
Psybolts, multimelta
1850pts.
Thats 3 crusaders with psybolts, 1 redeemer, all 4 with mms. 2 av14 battle cannons, and a typhon immune to melta.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 10:43:05
Subject: All AV14 Army?
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Dakka Veteran
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Ratius wrote:Been trying to build a quad landraider list for an 1850 tourney. Very tough to squeeze in useful/hardhitting things after the raiders. Was half thinking of filling them with ccw scouts 
A Knight is easy enough to add in if you're using obsec raiders from BA (ASM) or Inquistion (Henchmen)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 11:18:01
Subject: Re:All AV14 Army?
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Norn Queen
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On that note, heres what I came up with
DAs CAD
Chaplain on bike with bits and bobs and powerfield generator
7 man Tac squad with Sergent
7 man Tac squad with Sergent
LR crusader
LR crusader
Space Wolves allied
Wolf priest on bike with bits and bobs
5 wolf guard with sergent in LR crusader
7 Grey hunters with sergent
LR Crusader
Idea is to try and park the DA chaplain behind the LRs and get at least a couple of them the 4++ from the generator.
Then form a wall and charge forward
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Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
"Feelin' goods, good enough". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 15:53:20
Subject: All AV14 Army?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Can anyone think of a legit way to get a LR an invulnerable save without DA?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/14 15:53:54
Carcharodon Astra, by the Emporer it is willed. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 16:07:32
Subject: All AV14 Army?
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Sinewy Scourge
Commoragh (closer to the bottom)
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jose kantor wrote:Can anyone think of a legit way to get a LR an invulnerable save without DA?
Isnt there a psychic power that grants a unit 4++?
I think the DA libby is the best route honestly
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Wyzilla wrote:Saying the Eldar won the War in Heaven is like saying a child won a fight with a murderer simply because after breaking into his house, shooting his mother and father through the head, the thug took off in a car instead of finishing off the kid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 16:12:03
Subject: All AV14 Army?
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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jose kantor wrote:Can anyone think of a legit way to get a LR an invulnerable save without DA?
Forewarning from divination or the sky shield
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 19:21:29
Subject: All AV14 Army?
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Dakka Veteran
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I have seen a guy playing 3 Land Raiders in 1000 point game. He only had to kill Belakor and his Chaos opponent immediately gave up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 19:46:03
Subject: All AV14 Army?
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Necrons. We didn't all forget Necrons did we?
Literally nothing I rather see coming out of my opponents case than MULTIPLE Landraiders...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 22:45:54
Subject: Re:All AV14 Army?
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Preacher of the Emperor
Hanford, CA, AKA The Eye of Terror
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Black Templars
You can field your land raiders as dedicated troop choices. You now have scoring Land Raiders. Also you can fill those crusaders to the brim with marines and scouts to super assault anyone you want. Just make sure you take MMs and put melta bombs on your sergeants and you should have all your bases covered.
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17,000 points (Valhallan)
10,000 points
6,000 points (Order of Our Martyred Lady)
Proud Countess of House Terryn hosting 7 Knights, 2 Dominus Knights, and 8 Armigers
Stormcast Eternals: 7,000 points
"Remember, Orks are weak and cowardly, they are easily beat in close combat and their tusks, while menacing, can easily be pulled out with a sharp tug"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/15 00:08:28
Subject: All AV14 Army?
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Hellacious Havoc
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TheCustomLime wrote: HawaiiMatt wrote:With the surge of new DE players, now might be the worst time to start an AV13/AV14 army.
-Matt
Bring a Land Raider achilles and drink their tears.
Yes . . . let's!!
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I am changed . . . an outcast now. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/16 00:03:25
Subject: Re:All AV14 Army?
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Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight
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So, for what it's worth, I can speak to my experiences with this type of army in previous editions...
From 4th through 6th Edition, I ran Grey Knights at 1000 and 1500, with half of the army value being Land Raiders in a 'mechanized infantry' style. I won more than five dozen games with them over the years, including taking first at several local tournaments. It is brutally effective, but I will also warn that it requires you to be very on your game tactically, as it's incredibly easy for a single mistake to cost you half your force in one turn. The key point is to use the AV14 along with the condensed nature of your army to allow you to continually attack a small portion of their army with your entire army. Between killing him in small sections, using the AV14 as a shield, and maneuvering to limit what can attack you at any one point, you have to dedicate every turn to making sure you limit the number of 'dangerous' shots/attacks coming at you each turn to as few as possible. Minimize the attacks against you, and minimize your chances of failing rolls, and you can take your opponent apart piecemeal in a series of small skirmishes in which he has absolutely no chance.
So basically, AV14 never wins you games. However, AV14 allows you to engage your opponent in very specific conditions, which you can control, and in which you can always have the advantage. Think of it as a tool, and you can leverage it to absolutely amazing results.
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Armies Played: Grey Knights Tyranids Harlequins (WIP) |
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