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I stopped playing 40k for a number of reasons.

1. No longer liked the rules or enjoyed playing it.
2. Found a new game that I like more.
3. Can not afford to keep playing "keep up with the joneses".
4. Do not like the company any longer do to their actions against other companies (trying to claim ownership of the phrase "space marines" given they were only one of the LAST to do so).

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Thanks for providing me a thread full of people to add to Ignore. It's easier this way.

Please add me to your list.

 jasper76 wrote:
This question inspires me to ask another, although I don't think it would be a very helpful thing to ask in a dedicated thread.

If you have stopped playing 40k, why do you spend time on a message board devoted to 40k?

Because 40K is more than just a tabletop wargame.

 ChazSexington wrote:
When I quit years ago I was just not that interested anymore. I was just bored with it. Being 16 and having a girlfriend also attributed very strongly, so I went with new hobby.

Though prices did contribute. It was just too expensive to pay for beer, sports equipment and warhammer for me when I was 16.

The dreaded teenage female, the end of many a player's tabletop career. Miniatures are supposed to act as a deterrent to their mammary glands, but it sounds your Space Marines failed in this endeavor.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Thanks for providing me a thread full of people to add to Ignore. It's easier this way.

Anytime, sunshine! I suspect I'm already on that list, though. Man, I remember when I used to get really mad when people had different opinions than I did... Elementary school was such a long time ago.

Addressing the subject of the thread:

TL;DR: Bad rules, poor value for my money (your mileage may vary), legal bullying, 80's/90's mindset, complete unwillingness to understand the modern hobby game market, general incompetence.

I actually wrote a much, much longer summary, but I'm sure no one cares.



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 jasper76 wrote:
This question inspires me to ask another, although I don't think it would be a very helpful thing to ask in a dedicated thread.

If you have stopped playing 40k, why do you spend time on a message board devoted to 40k?

If you mean "40K general discussion", well, I don't post here much.

If you mean DakkaDakka, it's because, despite the name, it isn't "devoted" to 40K, and there is quite a lot of general tabletop news and discussion going on here. If you want "devoted to 40K", I know of a different forum that I am not a member of and never visit that fits that description.

Inb4 meta changed and people couldn't adapt.

 RatBot wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
This question inspires me to ask another, although I don't think it would be a very helpful thing to ask in a dedicated thread.

If you have stopped playing 40k, why do you spend time on a message board devoted to 40k?

If you mean "40K general discussion", well, I don't post here much.

If you mean DakkaDakka, it's because, despite the name, it isn't "devoted" to 40K, and there is quite a lot of general tabletop news and discussion going on here. If you want "devoted to 40K", I know of a different forum that I am not a member of and never visit that fits that description.

I just meant the 40k boards, and I'm just curious...I'm not judging or anything.

 jasper76 wrote:

 RatBot wrote:

 jasper76 wrote:
This question inspires me to ask another, although I don't think it would be a very helpful thing to ask in a dedicated thread.

If you have stopped playing 40k, why do you spend time on a message board devoted to 40k?

If you mean "40K general discussion", well, I don't post here much.

If you mean DakkaDakka, it's because, despite the name, it isn't "devoted" to 40K, and there is quite a lot of general tabletop news and discussion going on here. If you want "devoted to 40K", I know of a different forum that I am not a member of and never visit that fits that description.

I just meant the 40k boards, and I'm just curious...I'm not judging or anything.

For me personally, it's because I like to keep tabs on the "state of the union" as it were. I keep a rudimentary knowledge of the game as it allows me to participate in certain conversations with friends down at my FLGS and also, much like Wayne and MWH I would love to get back into the game, but GW seems to want to stymie us at every opportunity and it's better to keep a bit of track than have to start from scratch.

Ah. Well, then I'll go with what Psienesis said. Some people still like the background (I know I do), some people want to keep tabs on what direction the game is going in for whatever reason, some people still like to discuss the miniatures themselves, etc.

Some started playing 40K long ago and like to reminisce about how it used to be, and/or hope that one day maybe 40K will be a game they want to play again, though this will likely not come to pass any time soon.

@jasper

I imagine a number people have 'quit' 40k, but still hold on to an army or a few for a combination of either occasional gaming with friends who play, painting/modelling projects, or just a love of the universe and ability to use the models with other 40k products, like the RPGs.

Really, it'd probably be more accurate to ask why people have either stopped keeping fully up to date with the latest edition/codex or why they're no longer pouring money into 40k.

@Grimtuff

DMB is just a child seeking attention. Best to ignore his childish and petty posts and hit the triangle of friendship. I'm sure a mod will come in and clean it up. Already happened once this thread.

I started trying other games and found a lot happening elsewhere, whilst 40k got bloated and left me behind a bit. After 20 years of basically the same old stories and settings, it got dull. Sold a load of stuff, still got my original Wolves army I used from 2nd onwards, but just don't play often. Once a year maybe? Not bought anything since Lukas Trickster came out. Still like to keep up on GW general news, but Dakka has other boards than just 40k.

I'm in pretty much the same category as a lot of other posters: the attitude of the company, ranging from suing everyone (including children's book authors and third party bitz makers), making large amounts of the product Direct-Only, and coming up with more and more ways to get money out of players without actually doing things for the game (overpriced books...look at the digital edition costs!! ) has been making me feel like I can't buy from them in good conscience.

Some of these company attitude issues leak into the game itself- the army inflation that has been rampant since 3rd and has hit insane proportions in 6th and 7th has just been too much.

I like to post in the 40k forum because (a) I like the people here , (b) I like to keep in the loop with 40k happenings, and (c) I would honestly *like* to play the game, it still holds my attention now...GW just does such a good job being James Bond villain-esque characters that I just haven't made it back into the game.

I've started playing Dystopian Wars and All Quiet on the Martian Front, so I mainly come to Dakka looking at News (which I feel they have the best of in terms of tabletop games!) and hoping these games will become more popular. Plus 40k chat is always interesting.

 Accolade wrote:
(a) I like the people here ,

feth damn it, and I've been trying for years to get you to quit posting.

Time to double down then, I suppose.

For those of us that still play and enjoy it, is there any point posting in this thread?

 Ratius wrote:
For those of us that still play and enjoy it, is there any point posting in this thread?

We can still be friends?

Or you could do what Darkness did and run down the thread hitting the Ignore button.

Haha, it'll take more than that to get you on my ignore
Dont worry, I was just being sarky. I'll leave yee to it!

 Blacksails wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
(a) I like the people here ,

feth damn it, and I've been trying for years to get you to quit posting.

Time to double down then, I suppose.

Guess we're going to have to be friends, then!

 Ratius wrote:
For those of us that still play and enjoy it, is there any point posting in this thread?

I never see people run out of a thread for liking something, it's only when they start getting derogatory that problems arise. I think most of us like 40k, there are just a lot of issues with GW/40k that are attracting the attention of a number of folks.

 Ratius wrote:
Haha, it'll take more than that to get you on my ignore
Dont worry, I was just being sarky. I'll leave yee to it!

Fair enough. I suppose you could always explain what keeps you playing, and maybe any gripes that would get you to reconsider 40k. Or something, I don't know.

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:
Inb4 meta changed and people couldn't adapt.

Inb4 learn to play.....oh damn I was too slow.

Anyhoo, combination of 2/3 the FLGS closing down, nobody wanting to buy 7th and people in the last FLGS all switching to, WMH, Infinity, Malifuex (spelling?) leading the owner to stop stocking 40k and then saying "if I don't stock it I don't want people asking about a game they may see being played and having to say we don't stock it". Which means I won't be getting in any games with the 30k stuff I just bought

Inb4 Daly posts something stu...

Oh... never mind...

 jasper76 wrote:
This question inspires me to ask another, although I don't think it would be a very helpful thing to ask in a dedicated thread.

If you have stopped playing 40k, why do you spend time on a message board devoted to 40k?

Not enjoying the current incarnation of the game is not the same as not being interested in the game.

I have actually *quit* warmachine, and will probably never go back. 40k is still a nightmare of bad editing and odd rules, so i don't play it. All of that aside, i can still build and paint GW kits vecause they rule despite their ridiculous price.

I stopped for years because my flat was too small to have space for painting and now I have more room I've started again.

I never quit. I haven't found a game I'm confident enough in to switch to. Barring collectible minis, I can't think of a single miniature game that has lasted for more than two years in my area. If I'll have to start driving to Chicago to play the game in a couple of months, it just isn't worth my time.

So all the people in this thread that "dumped" 40k I find it rather odd you "stalk your ex" this way. I wish GW could file restraining orders against you.
Honestly you could have put this in the "general discussion" area but you instead decided to troll the "40k general discussion" area. Got it....

Actually I thought because this was directly about 40K that it belonged here. And that it would get moved if I put it anywhere else.

Also my primary motivation was so that people would have an unscientific poll to reference.

 lobbywatson wrote:
So all the people in this thread that "dumped" 40k I find it rather odd you "stalk your ex" this way. I wish GW could file restraining orders against you.
Honestly you could have put this in the "general discussion" area but you instead decided to troll the "40k general discussion" area. Got it....

So all the people that "enjoy" 40k I find it rather odd you "stalk your GW haters" this way. Dakkadakka could file a restraining order against you.

Honestly yoi could have "not posted in this thread" but instead decided to troll the "thread specifically meant for people to talk about reasons they have left or may leave".

Got it.

Any more insights to share? We'd all be thrilled to hear you whine about a thread you could have, I dunno, maybe ignored. We've to hear you bitch about people bitching, that wouldn't be ironic at all and would be super on topic and productive.

 lobbywatson wrote:
So all the people in this thread that "dumped" 40k I find it rather odd you "stalk your ex" this way.

 insaniak wrote:
Not enjoying the current incarnation of the game is not the same as not being interested in the game.

The only one of my reasons that was up there was "Got a new hobby."

Since 2007, I have played World of Warcraft for more than 10,000 hours, not counting time spent on dozens of characters that got deleted or re-rolled for one reason or another. That's over 400 days. I've also been playing Star Trek Online and Planetside 2 since 2013, and have logged more than 2,000 hours on Star Trek Online in under two years. (only about 200-300 hours on Planetside 2 thus far)

Another reason was that I had nowhere to go, in terms of collecting my armies. Barring new units coming out, in 2011 I had pretty much everything I would ever use. At almost exactly the same time, I started to lose interest in WH40k. There was nothing new to try, all my games became just different combinations of the same thing against different combinations of the same thing. In short, I had nothing new and exciting to look forward to trying out in the next game, and it became boring.

Another reason is that I ended up having to move my gaming table to the smallest room in the house, with barely enough room to pull out a chair on either side of the board. I had to move it there because one day when my younger brother was having a party, they'd used my gaming board (with a game still in-progress on it) to put their laptops and drinks on, and had just moved the miniatures out of the way. Anyways, whenever I would play WH40k for a couple of hours in the new location, the inevitable outcome was that I'd be warm and sweaty, my legs would be stiff and in pain from standing up for two hours while frequently leaning forward with arms extended without being able to steady myself on anything (the gaming table was basically a 4x6 sheet of plywood with 4 legs screwed into it, and every time I leaned my 230 pound self against it, it felt like it was about to break), and my throat would be sore from talking so much. Every single time. It made it very unpleasant to even think about playing another round. And it didn't help that the family pets would insist on joining me and my mom in the gaming room EVERY time, and the dog would lie on the floor right where people needed to stand (did I mention the cramped space?)

Also, it was a time when my best Internet friend had gotten a massive hardware upgrade (went from booting up in 45 minutes and crashing when playing Youtube videos to booting up in seconds and being able to play MMOs) and so we were finally able to play video games together.

Put it all together. One of my preferred hobbies was physically unpleasant to partake in, required being in a cramped room with pets getting in the way, and had gotten stale and felt like there was nothing to look forward to. Meanwhile, my other hobby was something that I could do while sitting down, could enjoy with a dear friend, had better-looking visuals, and took place in a part of the world where I'm actually somewhat comfortable interacting with strangers on a regular basis. It's really no wonder why I prefer video games to tabletop gaming.


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 FacelessMage wrote:
Actually I thought because this was directly about 40K that it belonged here. And that it would get moved if I put it anywhere else.

Also my primary motivation was so that people would have an unscientific poll to reference.

I'm kinda wondering how you'd do a statistically valid poll for something as niche as tabletop gaming.

Toofast wrote:
I didn't quit GW but I did pick up WMH. It was mostly the rules that did it for me. I love the setting, aesthetics of the models, quality of the models, the amount of options I have to build a list, and because of all that the price wouldn't bother me at all...if the rules were even halfway decent. PP stuff is just as expensive if not more expensive for lower quality models that don't look as good. However, the rules are infinitely better and the company actually seems like they give a crap about customer satisfaction instead of just how big the next dividend will be.

I like this post. It seems to be a more honest answer that some are willing to give at least.

I'll agree that PP seems to be a better run company from a gaming perspective , they aren't burdened by producing for a stock holder vs a Gamer. I really do hope that GW is bought out one day and no longer has to worry about such things in a business that is as fickle as this one.

That being said , I'm also disappointed in those who come to this board to tell you how much they hate GW in thread after thread (not referring to this one, because in this one the poster was asking a question related to it) and try to convince everyone why they need to quit with them or just in general spread their hate.

There is also a core group who let their hate blind them to anything the company even does that's remotely good,heck it only seems to make them angrier that they did in fact do something that people like, and recently there have been some good trends. (in my opinion and also in a lot of others). I.E. Non-Codex model releases + Free rules online or rules in WD to go along with, Cheap starter boxes (SW vs Orks or Blood Angels vs Tyranids) , re-releasing books in softcover again.

I'm in no way a GW fan boy ( I also play WMH) and wish they would change some of their just ridiculous policies , hell starting with making pricing even remotely make sense would be a good start I.E. $30+ dollars for 1 model but that same price for 10 or more models in one box that are the same size as the individual model thats going for $30+.

My point is things could certainly be better but they aren't always as bad as some want to make it out to be. I've learned that very few people like change, its just human nature.