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If I had to pick one. Iron Warriors due to their useage of Siege Weapons and Artillery.

Emperors Children pre McNeill days for me. A lot less fluff on them but it seemed to treat them better and no talking sword.

He's done a good job of fleshing them out I just don't like the way he has handled aspects of them.

I imagine the fluff for the EC in Betrayal would go some way to making up for McNeill, but I haven't got Betrayal yet, and probably won't til after book V now.

Strongly agree, Pilau Rice -- except the part about him doing well on fleshing them out. He seems to have found their one note on a gong and just smacked it as hard as he could. I wish ADB had gotten to them first.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I imagine the fluff for the EC in Betrayal would go some way to making up for McNeill, but I haven't got Betrayal yet, and probably won't til after book V now.

It's very good in Betrayal.. It's basically the Index Astartes with extra chunks!

 Manchu wrote:
Strongly agree, Pilau Rice -- except the part about him doing well on fleshing them out. He seems to have found their one note on a gong and just smacked it as hard as he could. I wish ADB had gotten to them first.

Which is pretty much the aspect of them I don't like

Or Mr Wraight, Scars has been one of the best books in series by far imho.

Yeah, I have books 2 and 3 so I assume the fluff quality is the same for the legions in the first one. And I love Scars. I may do some WS when their FW book comes out, and I didn't like them before haha.

Bligh is the best fluff writer GW has ever hired. I'd love to get the other HH books from FW but my interest in GW's various product lines is so low (for so many reasons) that I can't justify the tremendous prices.

The only correct answer here is "Iron Warriors".

I am glad that the Night Lords novels were so great. I would hate to have my favorite legion be in the hands of some hack.

For me it's probably the Death Guard or the Thousand Sons.

I love the K-Sons and voted for them, but I have to admit to having a lot of sympathy for the Word Bearers.

Being Lorgar had to suck. He (and his Legion) were an embodiment of the Emperor's religious impulse, an impulse that all men share (to some extent) and the primary method the Emperor himself had used to try to influence humanity for millennia.

Their number of Compliances were low compared to the other Legions, but the loyalty they inspired in their conquests was unshakeable. To a Word Bearer this was a case of quality over quantity, yet it went unappreciated. Censured, in fact, in the form of the annihilation of the Perfect City, a multitude whose only fault was to idolize (literally) the Emperor.

Lorgar and his Word Bearers' entire character, rather than being encouraged as other Legions were, was stifled. (OK, the K-sons suffer the same censure after Nikea, you got me there.) The faithful were essentially declared heretics to the Imperial Truth - by the very godlike being they wanted to worship. That had to hurt deep down inside.

Small wonder their devotion turned to bitterness. I hated Lorgar as a small-minded fool until I read his story. Even though they're certainly zealots who prefer faith to open-eyed critical thinking, I have to confess I've found real sympathy for their fall.

My two teef.

Alpha Legion followed closely by Iron Warriors.

In RTS's and RTT's, Alpha Legion tactics are one's I usually follow using an infiltrator to seriously mess gak up behind and within enemy lines crippling the opponent so there is minimal resistance by the time I bring the rest of my military might to bear.

And then sometimes, I turtle up and amass forces tailored to punch through defenses (usually via the weak point or a flaw in the defenses found after probing with cheap bodies) and overwhelm the opponent, body count be damned.

Hydra Dominatus.

Death guard! Tyhon not tyhpus him and erabus(who i find to be in sufferable) where the founding farthers of heresy. That and they had a reason in their hatred of tyrants and look at the emporer...

i had to vote World Eaters...
Khorne has been my favorite Chaos God from the very beginning...
his art, stories, and models in the Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness book inspired me so much...
so, of course, i had to vote for his boys...

a close second, is the Iron Warriors...
i love their minimalist, no nonsense, look and style...
plus, hazard stripes are fun to paint...

i love the Pre-Heresy look of the Emperor's Children, but Slaanesh only comes in third (after Nurgle) on my favorite Chaos Gods list...
i actually really enjoyed reading Fulgrim, but then, i am a big fan of Graham's books...

cheers
jah

 jah-joshua wrote:

a close second, is the Iron Warriors...
i love their minimalist, no nonsense, look and style...
plus, hazard stripes are fun to paint...

cheers
jah

Iron Warriors are pretty awesome, I have to admit. I love the whole "plain" thing that their warriors have. The overly ornate armour and over-decoration that you find all over the Astartes (don't get me started on the paper they glue to their armour, ugh) annoy the crap outta me.

For me it would be the Night Lords if only they didn't wear those ridiculous bat wing helmets. What the hell guys. You're supposed to be scary, not laughably cartoonish.

That said, I'm gonna have to vote for the Death Guard pre-heresy. They were just awesome, winning through endurance and outlasting the opposing force is quite a feat.