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I wanna play fantasy because it's more popular in my community the past year and a half,but ever since this end times stuff,I can bring myself to do it. and the roller coaster it's been, I want it to happen to 40k, but I don't want the game reset,

 lcmiracle wrote:

Nah, never heard of it; an author can be commissioned to write some stuff, with multiple authors can be commissioned to write a same novel or script, but no editors edit the contents of an author's work without executive meddling, or in the case of news article businesses, cut out "inaccuracies" by the chief editor. I'd be an entirely different situation if an author takes up from, or is called in to finish off, where a previous author had left off, not unlike the case of The Silmarillion.

Content editing is a pretty crucial part in the creation of most works of fiction, actually.

http://www.crayne.com/articles/Copy-Editing-Versus-Content-Editing.pdf

PhantomViper wrote:

 lcmiracle wrote:

Nah, never heard of it; an author can be commissioned to write some stuff, with multiple authors can be commissioned to write a same novel or script, but no editors edit the contents of an author's work without executive meddling, or in the case of news article businesses, cut out "inaccuracies" by the chief editor. I'd be an entirely different situation if an author takes up from, or is called in to finish off, where a previous author had left off, not unlike the case of The Silmarillion.

Content editing is a pretty crucial part in the creation of most works of fiction, actually.

http://www.crayne.com/articles/Copy-Editing-Versus-Content-Editing.pdf

Looking at that article, the Content Editor does not change the story, they point out the inconsistencies, weak plot points and such. An author (or authors) trying to have a different direction for his/her/their stories is not something the Content Editor would change. Their jobs are like peer-reviewers, they tell the author what they feel can be improved about the contents of the work, what not to do while doing it, not what they should do about their work.

Oh, that's nice. There will be more ex-gamers from GW who will have enough of this gak and try out other, better games out there.

We'll see about Battle or whatever it will be called, but I'm pretty sure it will follow the same fate than Confrontation eventually.

 RunicFIN wrote:
Wasn't the "skirmish" part of the next edition rumoured to be a game mode? Would certainly make for a easier entry-level game for new players and also answer the needs of people who think the game has been blown out of scale ( too large. ) It sounds pretty sensible, clever even, but unfortunately knowing GW it might not be a reality.

WHFB already had a skirmish game, Mordheim. GW let Mordheim wither on the vine and then killed it. GW also put out Skirmish as a supplement for WHFB, didn't make much of an effort to support it and the community was never enarmored with it so it went nowhere. GW saw a big sales increase when they launched their LotR game but over the past years they've raised prices and reduced support and that game is kept alive by the community not GW now. Maybe a 9th Edition WHFB skirmish game will be different, maybe this time they'll get it right. Maybe.

 lcmiracle wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

 lcmiracle wrote:

Nah, never heard of it; an author can be commissioned to write some stuff, with multiple authors can be commissioned to write a same novel or script, but no editors edit the contents of an author's work without executive meddling, or in the case of news article businesses, cut out "inaccuracies" by the chief editor. I'd be an entirely different situation if an author takes up from, or is called in to finish off, where a previous author had left off, not unlike the case of The Silmarillion.

Content editing is a pretty crucial part in the creation of most works of fiction, actually.

http://www.crayne.com/articles/Copy-Editing-Versus-Content-Editing.pdf

Looking at that article, the Content Editor does not change the story, they point out the inconsistencies, weak plot points and such. An author (or authors) trying to have a different direction for his/her/their stories is not something the Content Editor would change. Their jobs are like peer-reviewers, they tell the author what they feel can be improved about the contents of the work, what not to do while doing it, not what they should do about their work.

Seeing as editors tend to work for publishers, as I understand it, the difference is something of a moot point. It's why books from very successful authors tend to get larger; they have enough clout to go "...no, we do it my way".

Also, on the subject of George R. R. Martin, note that he kills a bunch of characters and changes political landscapes, instead of just...destroying everything. Have Praag fall again and become the new seat of power for Archaon, enabling further attacks south. Maybe a Bretonnian Crusade gains a foothold in Norsca. Maybe a horde of greenskins swarms up Black Fire Pass and swamps Averland, so the next edition of the game mentions that. Maybe a skaven assassinated Karl Franz and the elector counts start bickering over who's in charge now. THAT'S how to advance the story. You don't need to burn down a beloved setting because the game isn't selling as well as you want. I think pretty much everyone can agree that the setting wasn't the problem.

 Spinner wrote:

 lcmiracle wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

 lcmiracle wrote:

Nah, never heard of it; an author can be commissioned to write some stuff, with multiple authors can be commissioned to write a same novel or script, but no editors edit the contents of an author's work without executive meddling, or in the case of news article businesses, cut out "inaccuracies" by the chief editor. I'd be an entirely different situation if an author takes up from, or is called in to finish off, where a previous author had left off, not unlike the case of The Silmarillion.

Content editing is a pretty crucial part in the creation of most works of fiction, actually.

http://www.crayne.com/articles/Copy-Editing-Versus-Content-Editing.pdf

Looking at that article, the Content Editor does not change the story, they point out the inconsistencies, weak plot points and such. An author (or authors) trying to have a different direction for his/her/their stories is not something the Content Editor would change. Their jobs are like peer-reviewers, they tell the author what they feel can be improved about the contents of the work, what not to do while doing it, not what they should do about their work.

Seeing as editors tend to work for publishers, as I understand it, the difference is something of a moot point. It's why books from very successful authors tend to get larger; they have enough clout to go "...no, we do it my way".

Also, on the subject of George R. R. Martin, note that he kills a bunch of characters and changes political landscapes, instead of just...destroying everything. Have Praag fall again and become the new seat of power for Archaon, enabling further attacks south. Maybe a Bretonnian Crusade gains a foothold in Norsca. Maybe a horde of greenskins swarms up Black Fire Pass and swamps Averland, so the next edition of the game mentions that. Maybe a skaven assassinated Karl Franz and the elector counts start bickering over who's in charge now. THAT'S how to advance the story. You don't need to burn down a beloved setting because the game isn't selling as well as you want. I think pretty much everyone can agree that the setting wasn't the problem.

Read what the leaked image said. It refered to the "cycle of the stars" the warhammer world is going to come full circle again hopefully at least 75% the same but still very new

Frankly, given all the other rumors about a post-apocalyptic reality bubble setting with combined factions...a vague bit of clumsy prose about cycles doesn't really get my hopes up for a return to decent background.

 Spinner wrote:
Frankly, given all the other rumors about a post-apocalyptic reality bubble setting with combined factions...a vague bit of clumsy prose about cycles doesn't really get my hopes up for a return to decent background.

An even more vague bit about Warhammer is the Bubblehammer part: what I can find is that it's just one race that took off into Magical Space, with Space Magic shields and Space Magic Temple Ships, left over by Space Magical Old Ones. Nowhere I looked indicates that the Bubblehammer was intended for the resolution of The End Times. And about the combined factions, apart from the possible "army of light" (and we will see when the fluff in Archaeon finally got brought onto the forums on a more macro perspective) being potentially OP, undead army and the chaos army are a welcoming return to the old army books, where beastmen actually had a place in the grand Chaos Armies where they can serve as a useful part of the army, and Vampires could "ally with" Mummies because they all came from a same source, and it's more fun having those options.