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It's also important to note that a few armies have almost no answers to Knights, with Daemons being front and center... those Str.D stomps are utter brutal, and really, the only counters we have is either an Invisible Be'lakor, or else getting lucky that the new Insensate Rage Bloodthirster lives to swing back with Str.D of his own.

Soul Grinders just get smashed due to their lower initiative, while the other Greaters & Princes are too pricey to risk near certain death.


If you have any Daemon players in your local, then outside of Tournaments, you should honestly give your opponent a head's up as Daemons can only take one Knight(s) with tailored lists, or else are shoehorned into CSM or IA13 allies.

Khorne Daemonkin are a little better off as they can bring Oblits IIRC, and/or massed Meltas.

The true secret to an enjoyable game of 40k:

Talk about what you are thinking of fielding with a friend a day or two beforehand. Counter each other's lists to the best of your ability.

Enjoy.