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T-Sons get Reanimation Protocols 4+. Done.

I think they cost a little too much but I like their current rules. AP3 bolters is dope. Plus I'd also say the coolest thing about them is the sorcerer - so removing that seems like a downer to me. Compare them to legion of the damned and their point cost actually seems pretty fair - they just have a MUCH less important roll. AP3 shooting really isn't in much demand right now as it is overblown and everywhere. However A squad of 10 of these guys will easily wipe a 10 man tactical out in the open - esp with a sorcerer casting at them too.

I'd say reduce their points by 3 or 4 and call it a day.

 Xenomancers wrote:
I think they cost a little too much but I like their current rules. AP3 bolters is dope. Plus I'd also say the coolest thing about them is the sorcerer - so removing that seems like a downer to me. Compare them to legion of the damned and their point cost actually seems pretty fair - they just have a MUCH less important roll. AP3 shooting really isn't in much demand right now as it is overblown and everywhere. However A squad of 10 of these guys will easily wipe a 10 man tactical out in the open - esp with a sorcerer casting at them too.

I'd say reduce their points by 3 or 4 and call it a day.

There's your problem.

Pretty much no one competent is going to leave their infantry without cover unless they can afford it or they're trying to bait you into doing something stupid.

Give them access to Heavy Bolters maybe?

a squad of 5 tsons get 4 hb with ap3 will rekt face.

I would lower the Son's ppm to 20ppm. The Sorcerer would be 60 points, for a total starting cost of 140 points for 4 Sons and the Sorcerer.

I would allow the Sorcerer to generate powers from the Change lore and/or Divination, and would allow him to upgrade to Mastery level 2 for 25 points.

I would change the Son's bolter profile to 24'' str4 ap3 assault 2.

Those changes would make the Sons a competitive choice, imo.

Allow Tson sorc primaris of prescience

Replace inferno bolters on 4 remaining tsons with inferno heavy bolters FOR FREE!
hidden synergy of snp allow them to fire heavy weapons full bs!

Still not as op as scat bikes!

 Valkyrie wrote:
Why the two Bolt Pistols? That achieves nothing; he has the same number of shots as a normal Boltgun and does nothing to increase his CC potential than if he had a single normal Pistol and CCW.

If you have two pistols, you can fire two shots and then assault.

Traditio, Thousand Sons can assault after rapid firing.

Giving them Cypher super Gunslinger rules instead of USR Gunslinger will allow for ap3 attacks all while being only 35pts as a champ vs the better but costly 60pts sorc.

But if we stay with the sorc, give him prescience and the other 4 guys heavy bolters.