Consolidation move

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**DJGietzen**

RavenGuard55 wrote:
How is that remotely the same? It says at the end of a combat. If they're in combat during other phases and that combat doesn't exist, how does that not qualify as an end of combat? That's the part I'm not understanding. The combat is over. Over=end. If it said anywhere that combat only occurs in the assault phase then I can see the consolidation only working in the assault phase. I can't find in the book where it says that though. If someone could point me to the page and paragraph where it defines "combat", I'd most appreciate it.

What your not getting is that the end of combat is not when the unit is no longer in combat or when the combat is over or even when the combat ends. I'll repeat that last one. The end of combat is not when the combat ends. Its a specific event (with a poor name) that happens at the end of the fight sub phase. It can't happen in any other phase because it is part of the fight sub phase wrap up and the fight sub phase dies not happen in any other phase.

**Trasvi**

This reeks of the argument in 6th edition that you weren't locked in combat until your initiative step of the fight phase...

**axisofentropy**

If a blast destroys enough models in two locked units such that none of them are in base-to-base anymore, are they no longer locked in combat at the end of the shooting phase? May one of the units declare a charge that turn?

**Kriswall**

axisofentropy wrote:
If a blast destroys enough models in two locked units such that none of them are in base-to-base anymore, are they no longer locked in combat at the end of the shooting phase? May one of the units declare a charge that turn?

Yes. They would no longer be locked in combat and one can declare a charge. Of course, this would be a very unlikely scenario as you'd need to target a valid, close by target and then hope for a scatter that would hit both units. Then you have LOS issues to consider. Closest models are always removed first, so you'd need the blast to be a barrage weapon.