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 CrashGordon94 wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:

Makumba wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
No new rules.
The Deathstrike is a multi kit, and doesn't have to be the single rocket. It could be the Manticore.
If it is a formation, I would expect it to list either.
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What is the point of those then. ogryns are bad and a BB doesn't make them better in anyway.

Unless these are early releases of a new codex, it is just another attempt at selling Ogryns.
If the codex has a formation or similar for this set, skip it.

Unless they get highly buffed, which could be possible.

I know the current Ogryn box makes a Nork Deddog model, but its interesting that they're spruiking the bundle as "Nork Deddog's Brute Force". Currently the only way to get Nork into an army is as an upgrade to a Company Command Squad, of which the models for aren't included. Possible Independent Character Nork in the future?

 GoonBandito wrote:

 CrashGordon94 wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:

Makumba wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
No new rules.
The Deathstrike is a multi kit, and doesn't have to be the single rocket. It could be the Manticore.
If it is a formation, I would expect it to list either.
.

What is the point of those then. ogryns are bad and a BB doesn't make them better in anyway.

Unless these are early releases of a new codex, it is just another attempt at selling Ogryns.
If the codex has a formation or similar for this set, skip it.

Unless they get highly buffed, which could be possible.

I know the current Ogryn box makes a Nork Deddog model, but its interesting that they're spruiking the bundle as "Nork Deddog's Brute Force". Currently the only way to get Nork into an army is as an upgrade to a Company Command Squad, of which the models for aren't included. Possible Independent Character Nork in the future?

I would be more excited for a new company command squad box!

Nice box but over here its $880 and barely gets you a legal army.

 General Orange wrote:
2 new battle-forces have coma out, the Backbone of the Imperium and Nork Deddog's Brute Force.

The first one you save 37 euros, so 41 dollars, It has some good firepower and looks like a great beginner pack, hum... except it looks like infantry is a bit lacking, you could do 2 vets squad and a CCS but the poor HWS...I think you should get another vet squad separably for this chimera, and with the extra dudes you got after giving the squads their HWT, do a PCS. And the Wall of Martyrs batteries a kinda good I suppose, if you want to spam battle cannons.

Nork Deddog's Brute Force is for a fluffy "f*ck logic and charge to the enemy lines" complement to your army. You save 1 euro

What are your thoughts ? Worth, not worth it ?

A big part of it would depend which models you can get out of it, as some of those bundles we had in the past didn't include the parts to build all the variants that a normal box would get you. Imho it's a big difference if you can magnetize a Wyvern/Hydra or if you're just getting the old "Hydra-only" set. Also note that there is a difference i what is being advertized in the pictures and what the text tells you what's in the box.

Also, I really don't know who comes up with those bundles. They're bad choices for beginners, not having enough important and core elements to field, while including some very exotic miniatures (Deathstrike, Vengeance Battery) you won't need when starting out, while more advanced players probably have enough core elements (infantry, chimeras, comissars, weapon squads) already.

Which past ones didn't have the parts for all the variants..?

 ImAGeek wrote:
Which past ones didn't have the parts for all the variants..?

The most recent one would be the "Hammer of Cadia", which only included parts for Hellhammer/Baneblade and notr those for Banesword, Stormlord etc... found in the regular kit.

BRB wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Which past ones didn't have the parts for all the variants..?

The most recent one would be the "Hammer of Cadia", which only included parts for Hellhammer/Baneblade and not those for Banesword, Stormlord etc... found in the regular kit.

That would be the only one which didn't--and it explicitly stated that it ONLY included parts for the Hellhammer/Baneblade for an explicitly stated reason.

The Baneblade kit contained within was the remaining stock of the original Baneblade kit, which only built Hellhammer/Baneblade.

While I'm at it...
There has not ever been a "Hydra only set" produced by Games Workshop. That was Forge World, and it shared a turret component with their version of the Manticore(which incidentally, I liked both versions a lot more than the GW versions).
The sprues for the Hydra and Wyvern share components and the only way you could be denied both is if they clip the parts for the Wyvern off the sprue.

I'm really not sure what you're referring to when you say "there is a difference in what is being advertised in the pictures and what the text tells you what's in the box".
You get a Cadian Defense Force box which includes:
Leman Russ Battle Tank(which can also build Eradicator, Exterminator or Vanquisher)
Chimera APC
Platoon Command Squad
Heavy Weapons Squad
Two Cadian Shock Troop Infantry Squads

Additionally you get:
A separate Leman Russ Battle Tank
Leman Russ Demolisher Siege Tank kit(which builds Punisher or Executioner as well)
A Hydra Flak Tank(which can also build a Wyvern)
A Deathstrike Missile Launcher(which can also build a Manticore)
An Officio Prefectus Commissar(that's the plastic blister)
A Vengeance Weapons Battery(Pulling from the product description on GW's site: "The Vengeance Weapons Battery contains two standalone emplacements whose turrets can be equipped with either battle cannons or punisher cannons. There are two of each weapon included in this kit allowing you to make two battle cannons, two punisher cannons, or one of each. ")