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2015/10/30 04:00:18
Subject: Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
Which we then counter by building a further chain 12 miles farther out using money we borrow from China and then use for luxury beach resorts except for a few that get turned into navy, marine and air force bases to further the view that they get all the cool bases. Win win for everyone except the army who still gets forced to have their bases in the ghettos of the country.
If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM!
2015/10/30 12:43:55
Subject: Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
Re activate a Iowa and pass inside main battery range, rotate turrets and then people go quiet. Real quiet.
18 16 inch a minute.. Enough dakka for you?
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2015/10/30 19:13:06
Subject: Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
jhe90 wrote: Re activate a Iowa and pass inside main battery range, rotate turrets and then people go quiet. Real quiet.
18 16 inch a minute.. Enough dakka for you?
Yup.
I mean, look at those soundwaves, man.
Spoiler:
And that's before you count missiles + rapid fire duel mount 5 inch gun mounts.
Basicly its a floating fortress of guns
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2015/10/30 19:29:21
Subject: Re:Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
The big ones, sadly not so much good. They pack a alot of explosives.
Smaller ones its flat out imune to the Exocet type ones. There not denting that armour belt. Ever.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2015/10/30 19:39:15
Subject: Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
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jhe90 wrote: The big ones, sadly not so much good. They pack a alot of explosives.
Assuming it ever got there to detonate.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
The Iowas are done. They can't be reactivated at a reasonable price, nor would they be valuable. They can't accept the latest in electronics or radar required for actual combat, nor can they be equipped properly with modern VLS based missiles. Their armor is not useful, as they're still highly vulnerable to being mission-killed.
16 inch guns aren't nearly as useful in the modern era than before, as smart munitions continue to get smarter, and beach defenses are not static concrete bunkers anymore.
2015/10/30 19:45:15
Subject: Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
Manual systems and weaponry is however useful against emp and counter hacking or jamming its manual systems are out right imune running fully on old sighting and back ups.
Shells cannot be jammed. Why rail guns are a good idea.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2015/10/30 19:50:10
Subject: Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
The Iowas are done. They can't be reactivated at a reasonable price, nor would they be valuable. They can't accept the latest in electronics or radar required for actual combat, nor can they be equipped properly with modern VLS based missiles. Their armor is not useful, as they're still highly vulnerable to being mission-killed.
16 inch guns aren't nearly as useful in the modern era than before, as smart munitions continue to get smarter, and beach defenses are not static concrete bunkers anymore.
But it has big guns!
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2015/10/30 19:56:30
Subject: Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
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jhe90 wrote: Manual systems and weaponry is however useful against emp and counter hacking or jamming its manual systems are out right imune running fully on old sighting and back ups.
Shells cannot be jammed. Why rail guns are a good idea.
Indeed. And as electronic warfare becomes more ubiquitous in the future we might see some "old" technologies come back. Weaponized lasers would reduce the operating effectiveness of aircraft and missiles, making old fashioned unguided stuff as well as armored vehicles become more viable again.
In Infinity my UAAriadna sure enjoy being non-hackable
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Personally I wish they'd gone through with the plan to remove the rear turrets and base a half dozen Harrier jets on the ship. That would have been super rad. Then we could stuff them full of F-35 jump-jets and launch pre-programed smart-shells from the big guns. Rawr. A guy can dream...
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That is probably what we will see in the future. Carriers that also have direct fire weaponry such as railguns.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Grey Templar wrote: That is probably what we will see in the future. Carriers that also have direct fire weaponry such as railguns.
Multiple large nuclear reactors, easy to mount a few on side mounts a broadside or fit some on the island.
Rail guns and don,t interfere with flight deck or other way round
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2015/10/30 22:53:10
Subject: Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
jhe90 wrote: Manual systems and weaponry is however useful against emp and counter hacking or jamming its manual systems are out right imune running fully on old sighting and back ups.
Shells cannot be jammed. Why rail guns are a good idea.
Hacking and jamming 'dont work that way'. EMP certainly does not either, it's not magic sci-fi tech and there's a hell of a lot of ways to effectively shield against it.
A cannon, any cannon (including railguns) still needs suitable fire control else it's no better than a WW1 optically-sighted individually FCS'd gun.
It's useful in the same way that a sword can't be fouled up by mud. But we don't have people lugging around swords, do we?
If any warship is firing on any other target on the open sea optically, it's already lost and is already dead. What's a 10km engagement range against 300km+ missiles or properly guided projectiles?
2015/10/30 22:53:25
Subject: Angry China shadows U.S. warship near man-made islands
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From what I hear, even currently the ships we do have aren't even close to maxing out their nuclear reactor's capacity. No need for additional reactors.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Tannhauser42 wrote: That, and we're probably just jealous we didn't think of it first.
China has it's magical islands to increase it's territory in international waters gambit. Russia has its "protecting ethnic Russians" as a pre-text for invasion. The UK has ethical foreign intervention. The US had "establishing democracy". Every country has it's own fig leaf for expanding influence.
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TheCustomLime wrote: Remember kids. Thrift store clothing, 100% recycled protest signs and a can-do attitude do not stop missile strikes!
That's because no flag or uniform has ever stopped a bullet from a gun
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