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 Ghaz wrote:

eleven11 wrote:
as a necron player, I can't stand how everyone says decurion instead of either learning the detachment's names, or just calling them formation detachments.

Why call them a 'formation detachment' when the Decurion (and most others) can be fielded without any formations?

No offense, but do you actually play 40k? You can't play any of the new detachments without a formation.

Anyways, as a player that regularly plays the decurion against the gladius strike force and the hunter contingent, I'd say that formation detachments are the most balance that you are gonna get.

eleven11 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

eleven11 wrote:
as a necron player, I can't stand how everyone says decurion instead of either learning the detachment's names, or just calling them formation detachments.

Why call them a 'formation detachment' when the Decurion (and most others) can be fielded without any formations?

No offense, but do you actually play 40k? You can't play any of the new detachments without a formation.

Anyways, as a player that regularly plays the decurion against the gladius strike force and the hunter contingent, I'd say that formation detachments are the most balance that you are gonna get.

Do you play, because you're wrong. In a Decurion the Reclamation Legion, Star-God, Flayed Ones and Deathmarks are NOT formations. It is entirely possible to field a Decurion without a single formation.

 Ghaz wrote:

eleven11 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

eleven11 wrote:
as a necron player, I can't stand how everyone says decurion instead of either learning the detachment's names, or just calling them formation detachments.

Why call them a 'formation detachment' when the Decurion (and most others) can be fielded without any formations?

No offense, but do you actually play 40k? You can't play any of the new detachments without a formation.

Anyways, as a player that regularly plays the decurion against the gladius strike force and the hunter contingent, I'd say that formation detachments are the most balance that you are gonna get.

Do you play, because you're wrong. In a Decurion the Reclamation Legion, Star-God, Flayed Ones and Deathmarks are NOT formations. It is entirely possible to field a Decurion without a single formation.

The reclamation legion is a formation.

Edit:: you know what, forgive me I was being rude. Internet got the best of me, and I can see why you'd think that.

Not all codex detachments are equal. With the current dex, da can't even run raven wing without formations or detatchments. We can't troop swap bikes like SM now. Sure I can take some troop tax and cram it into a cad, but that combined with limited FA slots and the fact that you can't add the speeder to the bike squad really only stops me from brining my list. And the only real advantage the detachment gives over the 6th ed troop swap is a free first turn jink. The free jink isn't even on par with the damage mitigation of a drop pod list.

I think that formations should be free, and have their own special rules. Not buffs so much as tweeks. Then the buffs should be like optional upgrades for the formation that cost points. Imagine if you paid one or two points per model in the necron formation to increase their RP saves, and you didn't have to take it on everyone, but it was a by squad upgrade.

And most formations wouldn't take that much to reign in. Imagine if you only got free transports in Gladius for squads at full 10 man strength, tones the spam down but still gives you a reason to play all those bolter marines. Because let's face it, 60 marines are nothing to write home about.

 Ghaz wrote:

Do you play, because you're wrong. In a Decurion the Reclamation Legion, Star-God, Flayed Ones and Deathmarks are NOT formations. It is entirely possible to field a Decurion without a single formation.

To be fair, the Reclamation Legion is actually a formation...

 pwntallica wrote:
Not all codex detachments are equal. With the current dex, da can't even run raven wing without formations or detatchments. We can't troop swap bikes like SM now. Sure I can take some troop tax and cram it into a cad, but that combined with limited FA slots and the fact that you can't add the speeder to the bike squad really only stops me from brining my list. And the only real advantage the detachment gives over the 6th ed troop swap is a free first turn jink. The free jink isn't even on par with the damage mitigation of a drop pod list.

I think that formations should be free, and have their own special rules. Not buffs so much as tweeks. Then the buffs should be like optional upgrades for the formation that cost points. Imagine if you paid one or two points per model in the necron formation to increase their RP saves, and you didn't have to take it on everyone, but it was a by squad upgrade.

And most formations wouldn't take that much to reign in. Imagine if you only got free transports in Gladius for squads at full 10 man strength, tones the spam down but still gives you a reason to play all those bolter marines. Because let's face it, 60 marines are nothing to write home about.

This, so much this. Considering they broke the DW over their knee then threw the body in a ditch.