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No, no... as in "still a regular human". Just a regular dude under all that armor, hiding behind the locker door in the gym so the other Ultramarines don't notice that he's only 5'8", 190 pounds, with one heart and can't spit acid.

I was commenting on the person saying "marines were all born human".

We seem to have been writing at the same time, as I was replying to the same. I should have quoted.

Though now I cannot stop laughing at the anime-esque awkward scenes that portray "Regular Joe, Chapter Master of the Ultramarines" trying to hide the fact that he's a Regular Joe, with a girlfriend he can't tell the other guys about, and from whom he has to hide his job, while she goes through increasingly-ingenious ways to find out where he works, what he does, and who he spends most of his time around when they're not together.

My head hurts.

 dusara217 wrote:

locarno24 wrote:Given the way Horus supposedly kills him, I think it highly unlikely that even a perpetual could survive. There's nothing left to regenerate from.

The name "Ollianus" is the name of the Patron Saint of the Imperial Guard.

By M.36, it's probably in fairly common usage amongst educated types, for the same reason Noble-born PCs in Dark Heresy can roll up names like "Roboute" and "Rogal".

Horus flays him alive; killing him in the process. Perpetual are biologically immortal, but they can die of wounds just like anyone else (they reincarnate afterwards, though), though that tends to depend upon the author.

Mantorok wrote:

Blitzen the Solitaire wrote:
He'd have been too old for geneseed implantation?

IIRC, the DA were grown men during their transformations into SM.
Its just a different process, lost to time when 40K rolls around.
Loads of Genetic Manipulations, modifications and surgeries, worse than the standard process to become a Space Marine.

Actually, they were mostly 14 and 15, with any fully grown adults (like Luther) receiving lesser enhancements.

True in regards to the DAs but the space wolves of the 13th company who where reavers for Russ when the got their implants where at least 35 when they where transformed into space marines.