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They are very rock/paper/scissors. How many ways do you have to deal with AV14? Some lists have it, others don’t. With the overall scale creep in the game, you tend to see more things on the table to counter them and their kin though. But people who are just planning to spam S6-7 to HP away vehicles are going to be in for a rude shock.

I’m fond of mine, but will admit to playing more on the casual side. They do make an awesome looking centerpiece to a mech list.

LR needs about a 35% reduction in price - then they would only be decent.

 Xenomancers wrote:
LR needs about a 35% reduction in price - then they would only be decent.

162 for a land raider? I'd have to think about it. That's how bad it is atm. Realize that I've moved away from predators because too many things ignore AV 13 now.

All my Land Raiders have been Turned into Macrocarid Explorators

Who doesnt want a Land Raider with Scout, A Flare Shield AND CAN HEAL OTHER TANKS