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 Xerics wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Xerics wrote:
I feel like they should remove the Grav Gun from all units and make it a special equipment that a character can have. Like the Shard of Anaris or Phoenix Gem that the Eldar have. That will fix Grav spam real quick.

Yeah...that's not happening.

You want Grav spam fixed real quick? Remove GMC's nigh-invulnerability to the traditional counter of MCs--Poison.

The traditional counter of Vehicles was getting blown up by an antitank weapon in a single shot yet superheavy vehicles are immune to that and instead lose some hull points. So I guess we should remove that rule from all superheavy vehicles then too? So that the traditional counter to vehicles works on titans as well?

You don't Explode but you still lose D3 Hull Points.

They don't get a rule that they can ignore Haywire or Graviton weapons, now do they? Armourbane and Melta don't lose their bonuses against vehicles, right?

"The traditional counter of vehicles" hasn't been getting blown up by an antitank weapon in a single shot for awhile. It's whatever can strip hull points.

Also I pretty much get the feeling that you have butt hurtedness from wraithknights as that is the ONLY GMC people ever complain about.

Did you ever think that there is a reason for that...?
Tyranid GMCs are a joke and Tau GMCs are a joke if you can get in close enough with Grav or CC units that can deal with them.

 Jaxler wrote:

 Xerics wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Xerics wrote:
I feel like they should remove the Grav Gun from all units and make it a special equipment that a character can have. Like the Shard of Anaris or Phoenix Gem that the Eldar have. That will fix Grav spam real quick.

Yeah...that's not happening.

You want Grav spam fixed real quick? Remove GMC's nigh-invulnerability to the traditional counter of MCs--Poison.

The traditional counter of Vehicles was getting blown up by an antitank weapon in a single shot yet superheavy vehicles are immune to that and instead lose some hull points. So I guess we should remove that rule from all superheavy vehicles then too? So that the traditional counter to vehicles works on titans as well?


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Also I pretty much get the feeling that you have butt hurtedness from wraithknights as that is the ONLY GMC people ever complain about.

People still complain about riptides as if they were the devil.

Riptides aren't GMC's.

 Torus wrote:

 Icculus wrote:
Ork players have beards

SOB players also have beards

Yeah, I should really shave...

Also, SoB players derive great enjoyment from complaining about the lack of attention the army gets from GW.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Xerics wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Xerics wrote:
I feel like they should remove the Grav Gun from all units and make it a special equipment that a character can have. Like the Shard of Anaris or Phoenix Gem that the Eldar have. That will fix Grav spam real quick.

Yeah...that's not happening.

You want Grav spam fixed real quick? Remove GMC's nigh-invulnerability to the traditional counter of MCs--Poison.

The traditional counter of Vehicles was getting blown up by an antitank weapon in a single shot yet superheavy vehicles are immune to that and instead lose some hull points. So I guess we should remove that rule from all superheavy vehicles then too? So that the traditional counter to vehicles works on titans as well?

You don't Explode but you still lose D3 Hull Points.

They don't get a rule that they can ignore Haywire or Graviton weapons, now do they? Armourbane and Melta don't lose their bonuses against vehicles, right?

"The traditional counter of vehicles" hasn't been getting blown up by an antitank weapon in a single shot for awhile. It's whatever can strip hull points.

Also I pretty much get the feeling that you have butt hurtedness from wraithknights as that is the ONLY GMC people ever complain about.

Did you ever think that there is a reason for that...?
Tyranid GMCs are a joke and Tau GMCs are a joke if you can get in close enough with Grav or CC units that can deal with them.

Actually SHV do ignore Haywire.


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and they cant be immobilized which is what a grav weapon does to vehicles.

 Xerics wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Xerics wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Xerics wrote:
I feel like they should remove the Grav Gun from all units and make it a special equipment that a character can have. Like the Shard of Anaris or Phoenix Gem that the Eldar have. That will fix Grav spam real quick.

Yeah...that's not happening.

You want Grav spam fixed real quick? Remove GMC's nigh-invulnerability to the traditional counter of MCs--Poison.

The traditional counter of Vehicles was getting blown up by an antitank weapon in a single shot yet superheavy vehicles are immune to that and instead lose some hull points. So I guess we should remove that rule from all superheavy vehicles then too? So that the traditional counter to vehicles works on titans as well?

You don't Explode but you still lose D3 Hull Points.

They don't get a rule that they can ignore Haywire or Graviton weapons, now do they? Armourbane and Melta don't lose their bonuses against vehicles, right?

"The traditional counter of vehicles" hasn't been getting blown up by an antitank weapon in a single shot for awhile. It's whatever can strip hull points.

Also I pretty much get the feeling that you have butt hurtedness from wraithknights as that is the ONLY GMC people ever complain about.

Did you ever think that there is a reason for that...?
Tyranid GMCs are a joke and Tau GMCs are a joke if you can get in close enough with Grav or CC units that can deal with them.

Actually SHV do ignore Haywire.

Cite a page please.

I'm not seeing anything under Invincible Behemoth.

and they cant be immobilized which is what a grav weapon does to vehicles.

In addition to stripping a Hull Point.

Looks like they changed it. Forgeworld's apocalypse rules had haywire only effect SHV on 6's. I guess it got changed with the 7th BRB.

SM players have the false belief that the IoM will triumph over the Xenos and Heretics.
IK players have way too much disposable income.
IG players, once again, believe the IoM is "all that".
CSM players are all clutching at straws (both on the table and fluff wise).
Daemon players are sadistic.
Eldar + Tau players are trying too hard.
Ork players have some form of mental dissability, seriously how can all of them find Ork quotes funny?

Ork players are either super chill and fun or the most childish people you can encounter. Roll a d6 to determine which.

My dice rolling is awful then.

Experiment 626 wrote:
Loyalist Marine players are the biggest bunch of spoiled, over-entitled whiney children. Every time Chaos gets a toy that's still a -10 version of it's closest Loyalist equivalent, Loyalist players whine until GW gives them a carbon copy that's 10x better and 10-20% cheaper than what Chaos pays for ours.

Preach it! I just realized today that Chaos Marines pay the price of a meltagun for a worse invulnerable save witht the sigil compared to storm shield. Like, seriously: what the hell.

 greyknight12 wrote:
Eldar players are elitists; not only do they think their armies are better but that they themselves are better people.

are they elitists if it is true

but on topic

Tyranid players will literally eat your models as they fall to casualties if allowed

GMC rules would be fine, if all GMCs costed 200 more pts.

I wouldn't say all, as a chaos player I would say 888pts for a GMC is too much already.

But yes some (*cough*Wraithknight*cough*) are definitely under costed.

I've never seen the 888 pts one. I have seen the Stormsurge too much already.

888 points is a SHV. The Lord of Skulls

 Xerics wrote:
888 points is a SHV. The Lord of Skulls

Of course it is. Because SHV should totally be more expensive than GMCs.

All Harlequin players are mad/insane. Or high. Often both.

 Xerics wrote:
888 points is a SHV. The Lord of Skulls

Not the Lord of skulls. I am talking of a chaos GMC. The only GMC's chaos has are: 666pts, 777pts, 888pts and 999pts. and they are definitely not worth such a high price.


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Martel732 wrote:
I've never seen the 888 pts one. I have seen the Stormsurge too much already.

You don't see it because no one is willing to pay 888pts for something which is only worth 500pts (at most!).

 mrhappyface wrote:

 Xerics wrote:
888 points is a SHV. The Lord of Skulls

Not the Lord of skulls. I am talking of a chaos GMC. The only GMC's chaos has are: 666pts, 777pts, 888pts and 999pts. and they are definitely not worth such a high price.


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Martel732 wrote:
I've never seen the 888 pts one. I have seen the Stormsurge too much already.

You don't see it because no one is willing to pay 888pts for something which is only worth 500pts (at most!).

To be fair, those were also written in an edition where GMCs were EXTREMELY rare and Apocalypse only.

I'm actually a cautious and measured BA player. I'm always looking for the perfect assault, not just a crazy assault. Even in 5th, BA took some practice.

Mono Harlequin players are the 40k equivalent of Bigfoot - something you'll never see except for grainy photographs on the internet that people constantly dispute the authenticity of.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

 Xerics wrote:
888 points is a SHV. The Lord of Skulls

Not the Lord of skulls. I am talking of a chaos GMC. The only GMC's chaos has are: 666pts, 777pts, 888pts and 999pts. and they are definitely not worth such a high price.


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Martel732 wrote:
I've never seen the 888 pts one. I have seen the Stormsurge too much already.

You don't see it because no one is willing to pay 888pts for something which is only worth 500pts (at most!).

To be fair, those were also written in an edition where GMCs were EXTREMELY rare and Apocalypse only.

And once again heretics don't get an update. *cries* Wait, what? *sniffle* Chaos don't cry! ~must be strong~

 Robin5t wrote:
Mono Harlequin players are the 40k equivalent of Bigfoot - something you'll never see except for grainy photographs on the internet that people constantly dispute the authenticity of.

I honestly do it all the time

Eldar players are WAAC, Tau players are WAAC anime fan creeps, Ultramarines players are boring, Ork players are fun, Dark Eldar players are goth.
And everyone thinks his favourite faction is the bestest and strongest.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Eldar players are WAAC, Tau players are WAAC anime fan creeps, Ultramarines players are boring, Ork players are fun, Dark Eldar players are goth.
And everyone thinks his favourite faction is the bestest and strongest.

Yeah... Us CSM players are always bosting how are faction is the strongest. ~I can believe~.

All ork players don't have a single official gw/fw model in their armies and that's why they don't get good rules.

Carcharodon play-ayers are sl-sl-slightley un-unstabl-le.

 greyknight12 wrote:
Eldar players are elitists; not only do they think their armies are better but that they themselves are better people.

Thanks for pointing out.

DE players try to look very smart, but Eldar players are.

Martel732 wrote:
GMC rules would be fine, if all GMCs costed 200 more pts.

Also +100 for super heavy vehicles.

On topic:
Ork players are good drinking buddies.
Eldar players are WAAC.
Dark Eldar players are actually really nice guys.

 DarkBlack wrote:

Ork players are good drinking buddies.

Strange, the only Ork player I know doesn't drink. A quote from him: "I don't like alcohol". I don't understand how someone can not like any alcoholic beverages. (Sorry off topic)