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 Tiger9gamer wrote:

 Lord_Inquisitor_Doge wrote:

 fallinq wrote:

 Lord_Inquisitor_Doge wrote:
@Tiger9Gamer: The issue with animated movies/shows simply aren't taken seriously by most people, nor are they seen by most people. A live action movie, on the other hand, is seen by huge numbers of people, in comparison, due to the fact that it plays on the big screen, and its commercials are going to be seen by more people.

Spoiler:

slip wrote:Slaanesh probably won't be in it.

Cuz nobody watches or gets excited about Pixar stuff, amiright? And shows like Batman the Animated Series don't have fans who grew up on it still gushing about it to this day. Or Transformers. Or TMNT. Or...

I actually think an animated TV show could be pretty epic. It should probably revolve around a cast of both Imperial Guard (audience viewpoint, relatable folks) and Space Marines (superheroes). I think the nature of 40k might lend itself better to an episodic format.
Of course, this is pretty unlikely to happen right now, but hey, who knows what the future might hold?

Epic =/= widely seen by the general public. Take Warhammer 40,000, for example. NO matter how awesome it is, it remains unknown to the vast majority of the First World.

How the heck do you think stuff like star trek got started then? It was something new that people had no clue about and started to watch. 40k Would be kinda like that, where even if people have no clue about it they would see a promo and thing "Hey, that looks pretty cool. Lets see this."

Yes, and Star Trek was also a live action television show on an accreditted television channel, where it is far more likely to be exposed to, and taken seriously by, the public eye. I highly doubt that Cartoon Network would have been able to do the same as NBC.

 Lord_Inquisitor_Doge wrote:

How the heck do you think stuff like star trek got started then? It was something new that people had no clue about and started to watch. 40k Would be kinda like that, where even if people have no clue about it they would see a promo and thing "Hey, that looks pretty cool. Lets see this."

Yes, and Star Trek was also a live action television show on an accreditted television channel, where it is far more likely to be exposed to, and taken seriously by, the public eye. I highly doubt that Cartoon Network would have been able to do the same as NBC.

Maybe not a full blown film but I wouldn't mind a short vid that kind of shows the tangle of red tape and paper work involved in the imperium... Kind of like the movie Brazil... But a little bit more grim dark.

 slip wrote:

Somewhere a monkey's paw closed and Uwe Boll laughed maniacally.

Watch out, he will challenge you to a boxing match.
But serz, we must all sacrifice to all the gods to keep him away

IG vs Tau maybe?

"Humans vs invading aliens, in spehess, in grim dark future, blah blah"

roughly huminoid enemy aliens vs human (read: relatable) soldiers who fight valiantly and come out on top (barely).
Space Marines are hinted, not shown (in person) with most other foes again only mentioned in hushed whispers such as the Orks never shown until a later movie. Following a band of misfit IG troops and their tanks and stuff (maybe Fury 40k? lol) against an alien menance!


Maybe....

 Engine of War wrote:
IG vs Tau maybe?

"Humans vs invading aliens, in spehess, in grim dark future, blah blah"

roughly huminoid enemy aliens vs human (read: relatable) soldiers who fight valiantly and come out on top (barely).
Space Marines are hinted, not shown (in person) with most other foes again only mentioned in hushed whispers such as the Orks never shown until a later movie. Following a band of misfit IG troops and their tanks and stuff (maybe Fury 40k? lol) against an alien menance!


Maybe....

Ciaphas Cain, then?

I think Gaunts Ghosts would be a great way to get into it since they travel so far and wide and see so many aspects of humanity. We also have a more relateable person in the form of Gaunt and yet get the other aspects of the Imperium.

I think for the majority of audience starting off too grim would be the wrong way to get the people interested in 40k movies. If even our hero is an donkey-cave I just don't think people would like it. Probably right it off as some pointless dumb action movie glorifying war.

Once we see they like it though we can do something a little more risky and look to have a movie with more grimdark in it.

Inquisitor and Guardsmen battling Heretics. Daemons and GKs show up, things go crazy, the Imperium triumphs, leave it a bit open ended so they can make another if they want.

Make revealing of a Space Marine a big deal, make them bad ass, but don't try to make them relatable or anything. That's what the Inquisitor and Guardsmen are for.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Inquisitor and Guardsmen battling Heretics. Daemons and GKs show up, things go crazy, the Imperium triumphs, leave it a bit open ended so they can make another if they want.

Make revealing of a Space Marine a big deal, make them bad ass, but don't try to make them relatable or anything. That's what the Inquisitor and Guardsmen are for.

With the exception of the final battle being xenos rather than daemons, and Deathwatch rather than GK, you just described Xenos (Eisenhorn book 1).

Am I the only one who thinks this should go full Grimdark? Make a movie about the Fire Caste novel.

Introduce the main character (a guardsman), get a little sympathy going for him. Then 15 min into the film kill him off. Then proceed to kill off another main character every 10 min until the end of the movie, where the Commissar drives the ship into the warp without the shields active.

One of the best 40k novels I have read, and it really gets you into the Grimdark atmosphere. There are a few gimpses of Tau/Kroot/etc, but they only need to flash on screen briefly before the lazers start flashing.

I would watch this anyway...

Fisheyes wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks this should go full Grimdark? Make a movie about the Fire Caste novel.

Introduce the main character (a guardsman), get a little sympathy going for him. Then 15 min into the film kill him off. Then proceed to kill off another main character every 10 min until the end of the movie, where the Commissar drives the ship into the warp without the shields active.

One of the best 40k novels I have read, and it really gets you into the Grimdark atmosphere. There are a few gimpses of Tau/Kroot/etc, but they only need to flash on screen briefly before the lazers start flashing.

I would watch this anyway...

George RR Martin says hello...

 Harriticus wrote:

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Okay, that cast would be all kinds of awesome, and I think that would be an amazing project somewhere down the line, but I don't really think the Horus Heresy is the best entry point to the Grimdark. A story focusing on Space Marines would be hard for those not familiar with the setting to relate to. I definitely agree that the Eisenhorn trilogy would be more accessible story. I like Mark Strong as Horus, but he already did the voice of Eisenhorn in the upcoming mobile game, so maybe he'd like to reprise the role. He obviously has a thing for 40k.

 Harriticus wrote:

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My two problems with that list are Mamoa as Khan (I donm't think he quite fits, but I might be wrong), and Karl Urban as Garro (I'm not convinced his Dredd-style performance is quite enough to pull of Garro).

If anyone has read the novel Deathwatch I think its a great entry point for 40k.

Its shows bits of the marines different chapters, training and coming together as a squad while also setting up the horro/type of circumstance that would lead to them being deployed to begin with.

Then the ending would seal the grimdark of the setting.

1. Re-shoot "Saving Private Ryan" as an Imperial Guard story featuring Gaunt and his Ghosts.

2. Make eleventy billion dollars.

 Psienesis wrote:
1. Re-shoot "Saving Private Ryan" as an Imperial Guard story featuring Gaunt and his Ghosts.

Not bad. but you're thinking small.


Hive Hades by way of Enemy at the Gates. or Helsreach by way of The Longest Day.

That HBO picture is awesome
But Neeson as the emperor? Nah, hes so over rated.

 Ratius wrote:
That HBO picture is awesome
But Neeson as the emperor? Nah, hes so over rated.

Exactly. The Emperor himself is over-rated.

 Psienesis wrote:
1. Re-shoot "Saving Private Ryan" as an Imperial Guard story featuring Gaunt and his Ghosts.

2. Make eleventy billion dollars.

Boom. This would be my fanboy dream come true. Gaunt's Ghosts meets HBO's Band of Brothers (the best TV series ever made, if you ask me).

Just get Relic to expand the DOW 1 intro for starters. Wonder how that would look with todays tech. Probably pretty good.

Or a live action khaos gate

Gaunt's Ghosts for sure. Make it like a traditional war movie, but with lots of creepy, horror elements.

Replace Band of Brothers with Generation Kill

 Bobthehero wrote:
Replace Band of Brothers with Generation Kill

Never seen it, but I can confidently guess that it's not as good a match for GG/40K as BoB is. Guard soldiers and 40K warfare are much more reminiscent of 20th century WWII than they are of 21st century USMC and the Iraq War.

G-Kill was too realistic with the attitude of the Marines involved, it had to be cut short

 insaniak wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
The Eisenhorn trilogy would be the best intro to the 40k universe. Gives the audience a better sense of relation to it while still introducing the core elements of the setting.

This.

Relateable characters, and covers an awful lot of ground over the course of the trilogy, so would serve as a pretty brilliant intro to the setting for anyone unfamiliar with it.


I vote Vin Diesel for Eisenhorn. No rush... he gets better for the role the older he gets...

I agree. this was my introduction to the fluff and I loved it.

My opinion, for 40k?

Set with Armageddon. War movies sell and what is Armageddon? A perfect war movie, and it's big enough and open ended enough to allow for some creativity in the story and still be true to the narrative and have plenty of room for a sequel or two.

The Heresy while I would LOVE to see a movie seriesmovie series based on it, I think would be suited more to an animated series of either traditional style 2d animation with Movies to help in covering the Big Events Istvaan, Calth, Terra, Mars and so on.

 Chapter Master Angelos wrote:
My opinion, for 40k?

Set with Armageddon. War movies sell and what is Armageddon? A perfect war movie, and it's big enough and open ended enough to allow for some creativity in the story and still be true to the narrative and have plenty of room for a sequel or two.

The Heresy while I would LOVE to see a movie seriesmovie series based on it, I think would be suited more to an animated series of either traditional style 2d animation with Movies to help in covering the Big Events Istvaan, Calth, Terra, Mars and so on.

Armageddon seems like its more suited to a strategy game than a movie, all things considered. For the HH, agreed, some kind of series with the occasional movie would be best.

 Lord_Inquisitor_Doge wrote:

 Chapter Master Angelos wrote:
My opinion, for 40k?

Set with Armageddon. War movies sell and what is Armageddon? A perfect war movie, and it's big enough and open ended enough to allow for some creativity in the story and still be true to the narrative and have plenty of room for a sequel or two.

The Heresy while I would LOVE to see a movie seriesmovie series based on it, I think would be suited more to an animated series of either traditional style 2d animation with Movies to help in covering the Big Events Istvaan, Calth, Terra, Mars and so on.

Armageddon seems like its more suited to a strategy game than a movie, all things considered. For the HH, agreed, some kind of series with the occasional movie would be best.

Well my theory with Armageddon (pick a war 1st 2nd or 3rd) set it around a specific battle or build up there of. Say Hellsreach Hive. There you have A Marine (probably Grimaldus or a subordinate therof) and Guard main characters and a lead character in an ork position.

It gives perfect story elements for a build up, climactic battle, and a satisfying ending. It's easily every WW2 movie ever In space. With what can be seen as a Good vs Bad theme because honestly aiming this at the General public, they aren't going to go for "Everyone is actually bad" the way 40k is portrayed.

Oh, a movie about trooper Andrej, I could live with that.