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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/09 17:57:55
Subject: Re:Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Lord of the Fleet
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That frag cannon kind of makes every marine awesome. Who needs any other weapon when you can have a 2 shot, S6 Shred template or a 24" S7AP3 Assault 2 or 12" 29 AP2 Assault 2 weapon.
Plus, the Corvus actually looks useful.
It'll be fairly limited in total unit types, but each unit looks highly customizable in unit composition and wargear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/09 19:22:59
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I get the feeling DW seems like a complete army now, but on release it's gonna fall somewhere around the GK area; a few good units in some areas but severely lacking in other areas we haven't anticipated in, making them an overall good force for allying, but not as a straight-up army.
Which is exactly what it should be
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/10 16:28:44
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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One last thing, how would having a lucius drop pod work (would love one for the dred in the formation that's been leaked) in an army like this? Would it be impossible to have, as it should be formation/codex bound?
Cheers again
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/10 17:54:37
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
MIchigan
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FW put up a thing listing a bunch of toys the DW will be able to use, IDK if the Lucius is in it, but it probably will be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/10 23:27:57
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Deathwatch got me into 40k, Now I can play them as they should be represented.
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Black Templars 4000 Deathwatch 6000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/11 02:09:21
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Bought deathwatch overkill and death masque and the codex becuase they were all 25% off.
Owwww my wallet hurts but im looking forward to putting an actual death watch army on the table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/11 02:22:27
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I get the feeling DW seems like a complete army now, but on release it's gonna fall somewhere around the GK area; a few good units in some areas but severely lacking in other areas we haven't anticipated in, making them an overall good force for allying, but not as a straight-up army.
This. If I'm understanding things adequately, it looks like an army of deep-striking sternguard veterans with reroll capabilities that imperial fists have (at least, where it counts), except, the IF have it better.
Minus the possibly cheesy flier, this doesn't really sound like a particularly good army. You'd be better off just running vanilla 1st company formations from the vanilla codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/11 11:35:22
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Hm... the idea of an army formed from Militarum temptestus, an Inquisitor with his/her retinue and a death watch kill team definetly appeals to me.
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His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/11 15:34:03
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
http://www.ebay.com/sch/russian69hitman/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
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I'm doing pure Deathwatch too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/12 14:02:27
Subject: Re:Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Dakka Veteran
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casvalremdeikun wrote:A Watch Company is a core formation, so you can run multiples of that in the Black Spear Strike Force if you want to up your model count.
Don't forget, a CAD is still a thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 02:00:52
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Nerak wrote:Hm... the idea of an army formed from Militarum temptestus, an Inquisitor with his/her retinue and a death watch kill team definetly appeals to me.
Dude. Yes. So much yes. Just take my bag of "Yes"s and get out and make that glorious army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 07:07:01
Subject: Re:Pure Deathwatch Army?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Bartali wrote: casvalremdeikun wrote:A Watch Company is a core formation, so you can run multiples of that in the Black Spear Strike Force if you want to up your model count.
Don't forget, a CAD is still a thing.
Librarian w/ML2, Terminator, Storm Bolter [120 pts]
Veterans w/4x Frag Cannon, Auspex, Drop Pod [250 pts]
Veterans w/4x IHB, Auspex, Drop Pod [230 pts]
Dreadnought w/Plsama Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod [150 pts]
[750 pts]
Easy p-p-peasy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 07:16:56
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Why have the plasma cannon? Wouldn't melta be better?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 07:54:44
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Probably, but helps with MEQ and TEQ spam.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 10:50:12
Subject: Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Lady of the Lake
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ServiceGames wrote:It'll be interesting to see what the Deathwatch codex actually has to say about building an army or if it will limit it to small kill teams.
As I understand the fluff, since the Deathwatch is the best of the best from each chapter, they don't need a force bigger than the kill team you get in Deathwatch Overkill. In the 40K fluff, a force that big could handle whatever Xenos threat they were tasked with taking care of.
I really wanted to build a full Deathwatch army back when Overkill came out. I spent a good amount of time doing research on lists others had built in the past, asked a few questions here, etc. Essentially, at that time, to stay within the fluff, you really couldn't build a Deathwatch army.
We'll need to see if the new codex allows for larger armies based on redefining the Deathwatch or some kind of retcon to allow them to be full armies. It would be pretty awesome if they did allow a full Deathwatch army, though!
SG
Unbound and captains/chapter masters since you'd get like a 10 man squad as a 1500 army that way so it'd fit them better than a full force like any other marine force.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 13:15:01
Subject: Re:Pure Deathwatch Army?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Blacksails wrote:That frag cannon kind of makes every marine awesome. Who needs any other weapon when you can have a 2 shot, S6 Shred template or a 24" S7AP3 Assault 2 or 12" 29 AP2 Assault 2 weapon.
Plus, the Corvus actually looks useful.
It'll be fairly limited in total unit types, but each unit looks highly customizable in unit composition and wargear.
I still can't bring myself to buy the dex. The faith, it is lacking.
The frag cannon does sound pretty disgusting though, I also really like the flyer.
As for a full army being fluffy, it's about as fluffy as full grey knight army, even though that is a bit more common in the fluff. Deathwatch are almost always a kill team or two. And that's coming from someone who has a deathwatch blackshields army. I think if you're going up against a purely xenos army, the fluff writes itself anyway. so whatever. Given the crappiness of 7th ed army construction and the shafting a lot of the xenos books have taken in terms of balance, it's basically eldar or tau. Any other just seems unfair lol.
I'm not sure how fun it will be to play against a pure dw force if it ends up being mostly pods and ore flyers and kitted out kill teams.
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