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I doubt it'll ever revive her: let's suppose cryogenics do work, who'll remember her in 200 years? No one, quite likely. Same for all those who got cryogenized. Wat's more the changes Earth and humanity will have gone through (if any hulan leaving is still here) might steer here to such a schock she even might get upset and unable to integrate anything, with no father, mother, relatives or anything left... at 14 years. It's moving, upsetting, it is, but as iron captain said the only thing she got from it has probably been some comfort. Still as a christian i may address a prayer to her tonight...

If it gave her hope and comfet. Well all for the good.

However the odds being well massively low and fact there is no science that can do the wake up. We got utterly nothing right now.

And unless somthibf massively changes reseach is not a high priority for science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynaephora_groenlandica - this is what is required for an organism to survive freezing. A human being could NEVER go through this process and come out a living being after the thawing process. It is literally idiotic to assume we could ever cryogenicly freeze an organism as complicated as a human being and bring it back to life.

Your best bet is cloning if you want to live again.

Cryogenics kinda reminds me of mummification in principle, but more high-tech.


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 Xenomancers wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynaephora_groenlandica - this is what is required for an organism to survive freezing. A human being could NEVER go through this process and come out a living being after the thawing process. It is literally idiotic to assume we could ever cryogenicly freeze an organism as complicated as a human being and bring it back to life.

Your best bet is cloning if you want to live again.

Um, I'll admit I'm not an expert on cloning, but to me cloning would be like having a twin, and I'm pretty sure twins are separate people with different minds, so unless you plan to reincarnate into your clone I don't think it'd help.


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 Maréchal des Logis Walter wrote:
I doubt it'll ever revive her: let's suppose cryogenics do work, who'll remember her in 200 years? No one, quite likely. Same for all those who got cryogenized. Wat's more the changes Earth and humanity will have gone through (if any hulan leaving is still here) might steer here to such a schock she even might get upset and unable to integrate anything, with no father, mother, relatives or anything left... at 14 years. It's moving, upsetting, it is, but as iron captain said the only thing she got from it has probably been some comfort. Still as a christian i may address a prayer to her tonight...

Like if you were a 14-year-old and everyone you knew was dead for whatever reason.

It's tragic, yes, but society pulls through to help people in situations like that.

Also, yeah, Earth will be different. Imagine if someone frozen around 200 years ago were revived now.

I imagine if you told Ben Franklin about the modern USPS he might need another revive after the heart attack. First you'd have to explain to him what cars and airplanes are though.


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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
With Trump's finger on the red button, there might not be a planet to wake up to...

Yeah, but I mean, that's a risk even without Trump. There's a lot of ways our planet can end at any moment.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
With Trump's finger on the red button, there might not be a planet to wake up to...

Irrelevant to the topic.

Anyhow, I hope that her decision offered her some kind of hope or closure. fething shame.

Cryogenics has been around for while. I remember poplar science programs (BBC Horizon) from the 80's about cryogenic freezing in the US. From memory two options were given, head freezing or whole body.

Science provides some support for the belief human remains can be preserved indefinitely via freezing, It is also known that some beings can survive being frozen solid and thn thawed again. Examples being the Whetter and certain frog species.

However two technologies must be advanced that are currently not fully obtainable. First the recovery of frozen cells to functionality, which works for some cells and not all, we also lack the means to repair cells damaged by freezing.

Most importantly we have no means to reanimate a fully dead body, barring some religious clams which go beyond te topic of the thread.

In defence of cryogenics we cannot say that such capabilities will not exist in the future. My main problem is that cryogenics places a burden on intervening societies to preserve the frozen remains in an adequate state, based on a prior belief system a future society might not share, this will involve ongoing costs and adequate care provision