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"Women go into marriage hoping their men will change and men going into marriage hoping their wives never will."

 loki old fart wrote:


Lego, Scalextric sets, drones, you name it, are being snapped up by people with jobs and mortgages, Nespresso machines and gym memberships. I know. Disturbing or what? Naturally it goes without saying that most of these people are men, and that these men fall into the category of ones women (looking for suitors) automatically avoid.

It’s just one of those unspoken rules that females absorb by osmosis; point one on the Klaxon List of things that should make you run a mile.

Ms Watson writes dating tips articles for older (45+) women, from that point of view.

I guess what I'm saying is I'd be sad, if I was interested in dating 45+ old women.

 Frazzled wrote:
"Women go into marriage hoping their men will change and men going into marriage hoping their wives never will."

"Generalizations generally never end well." - Abe Lincoln


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 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:


Lego, Scalextric sets, drones, you name it, are being snapped up by people with jobs and mortgages, Nespresso machines and gym memberships. I know. Disturbing or what? Naturally it goes without saying that most of these people are men, and that these men fall into the category of ones women (looking for suitors) automatically avoid.

It’s just one of those unspoken rules that females absorb by osmosis; point one on the Klaxon List of things that should make you run a mile.

Ms Watson writes dating tips articles for older (45+) women, from that point of view.

I guess what I'm saying is I'd be sad, if I was interested in dating 45+ old women.

If I was interested in dating 45+ old women, pretty sure my hobbies would include going to the gym constantly and going to the bar.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
"Women go into marriage hoping their men will change and men going into marriage hoping their wives never will."

"Generalizations generally never end well." - Abe Lincoln

"Never assume malice what could be easily caused by demonic possession."

- Ice Cube

Can anyone reproduce the article? I'm getting a paywall.

I can't gauge the feeling of the whole article, but I'm quite negative of people who need to make 'lists' of things that people should or would avoid in relationships, and then list things that are trivial, somewhat prejudicial. This seems typical of the sort of person that instead of accepting your foibles, wants to stop you seeing friends and having hobbies, instead of them looking for a better match. That's makes *them* the problem in the relationship because they are not supportive, understanding or even tolerant.

Things to avoid in relationships are people who are aggressive or manipulative, or irresponsible with money, etc. People who are likely actually mistreat you or your life. Most other complaints are petty to write a newspaper article about. If a man wrote an article listing 'too make shoes' as a reason to avoid women, he'd probably get complaints.

A lot of people would prefer their partner have a proper hobby than going out drinking all the time, which is actually what an awful lot of people do.

 kronk wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
"Women go into marriage hoping their men will change and men going into marriage hoping their wives never will."

"Generalizations generally never end well." - Abe Lincoln

"Never assume malice what could be easily caused by demonic possession."

- Ice Cube

""You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott

"Here hold my beer and watch this."
-Frazzled, while standing in front of the preacher.

I read my wife out all the posts here and she just kind of laughed...... I don't know what those laughs meant! Crappin it now

How has there not been a famous C.S. Lewis quote appearance in this thread yet?!?

 Alpharius wrote:
How has there not been a famous C.S. Lewis quote appearance in this thread yet?!?

"Being in love is a good thing; but it is not the best thing."

If this is it Lewis was thinking about God not GW ffs!!

 kronk wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
"Women go into marriage hoping their men will change and men going into marriage hoping their wives never will."

"Generalizations generally never end well." - Abe Lincoln

"Never assume malice what could be easily caused by demonic possession."

- Ice Cube

“Quote on ther internet are reliable”
Adolf Hitler, in a speech to the Reichtag, in 1936.


I can't take OP's article seriously. I just don't care.

 kronk wrote:
And fishing rods and reels! Those are toys. And camping equipment! And anything in a Sharper Image catalog!

No they are not They are religious symbols, all hail the gods Ryobi and Diawa. we shall praise you by the light of coleman in the temple of Outwell.

 Knockagh wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
How has there not been a famous C.S. Lewis quote appearance in this thread yet?!?

"Being in love is a good thing; but it is not the best thing."

If this is it Lewis was thinking about God not GW ffs!!

I assume he meant

“When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

There is an old adage that a man without a hobby probably has another woman. Of course any activity taken to an extreme can be a vice, just like any obsession. Ask Van Gogh! Video games can be particularly irritating, though, as they often provide no benefit to anyone else not participating (as opposed to say music) and are often loud, tie up communal areas, etc. This is the same problem all entertainment consumerism has, though, and applies equally to sports viewing, musical watching, etc., where the partner doesn't share the interest. The red flag is if the person selfishly ignores the impact or refuses to limit the behavior, however, not the fact they enjoy that activity. After all, if I watch football on Sunday and my wife gets Hallmark Saturday, it's a fair trade.

Anyway, I think the writer of this article needs to learn what adult toys really are.

Here's another one ;
http://www.independent.ie/life/rise-of-the-kidults-how-the-sale-of-toys-to-adults-is-booming-35629546.html

 dazblackhawk wrote:
Here's another one ;
http://www.independent.ie/life/rise-of-the-kidults-how-the-sale-of-toys-to-adults-is-booming-35629546.html

He compares collecting toys to drugs. I've never heard that before

Got to have that resin-crack habit.........

 dazblackhawk wrote:
Here's another one ;
http://www.independent.ie/life/rise-of-the-kidults-how-the-sale-of-toys-to-adults-is-booming-35629546.html

Interesting read. I didn't expect Kindgom Death: Monster to get a mention in that article.

This quote is a gem:

"I've often compared toy collecting to being a heroin addict á la Trainspotting, and not just because there was a certain time in my life when I would have crawled through a filthy Scottish toilet to get a Star Wars Ree-Yees figure," Rob Bricken wrote on the science fiction and fantasy blog io9. "It's because toy collecting is a compulsion that ignores sanity, common sense and reality alike. The reasons I shouldn't be collecting toys are myriad."

Like any hobby, if you let it take hold too much it can become a problem. I think swapping out "toy collecting" for "miniature war gaming" in that quote would sum up a few years of my mid-late 20's pretty well.

 loki old fart wrote:

 dazblackhawk wrote:
Here's another one ;
http://www.independent.ie/life/rise-of-the-kidults-how-the-sale-of-toys-to-adults-is-booming-35629546.html

He compares collecting toys to drugs. I've never heard that before

Uhh, "Magic the Gathering = crack" has been pretty common since it first took hold in the 90's.

 jmurph wrote:


Anyway, I think the writer of this article needs to learn what adult toys really are.

All the ladies I have ever met love my collection!

 Frazzled wrote:
"Women go into marriage hoping their men will change and men going into marriage hoping their wives never will."

I say that there's a certain amount of bait-and-switch involved!
____

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I didn't expect Kindgom Death: Monster to get a mention in that article.

This quote is a gem:

"I've often compared toy collecting to being a heroin addict á la Trainspotting, and not just because there was a certain time in my life when I would have crawled through a filthy Scottish toilet to get a Star Wars Ree-Yees figure," Rob Bricken wrote on the science fiction and fantasy blog io9.

I'd crawl through a "filthy" Swiss toilet, though. Of course, the toilets in Switzerland are so clean you could eat off them, and "filthy" means you found a mote of dust in a corner...

Also, Kingdom Death raising $12M via Kickstarter is noteworthy, as is an average pledge of $600 per backer. That's a lot of money.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:


Also, Kingdom Death raising $12M via Kickstarter is noteworthy, as is an average pledge of $600 per backer. That's a lot of money.

Not disputing that, just didn't expect to see a niche body horror-themed board game mentioned in an article about toy collecting.

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Hmmm...

There is a grain of truth in the article. It certainly isn't a reason not to date a guy, but it is certainly something to be looked at, to see if that person has the same priorities as you.

I think the mistake the author makes (and I am somewhat speculating here as I can't view the article), is that she doesn't consider the scale of the hobby, and doesn't think the same of other hobbies. That is, if you start dating someone and find out they've got $30,000 in collectibles, but no savings and a bunch of credit card debt, then it's likely they might not have the kinds of priorities that make a relationship work. But then, that is also true if it was a muscle car instead of figurines. Hell, these relationship advice sites will go on all the time about how it is so good to find a man that's traveled, but if at the end of that travel the guy is in piles of debt and has nothing to his name, it's basically the same as the toy collector.

That kind of makes it sound like it's just about money, but that's not what I mean. It's about priorities, and where a person has spent their money is a pretty good indication of where their priorities are.

I have to admit that seeing at least one poster here that was a fair bit older than me made me feel better about being a 40 year old man who owns warhammer figures. I'm not sure at what age it becomes embarrassing but it seems like I have at least a few more years.

That whole dating a woman over 45 applies to me.
im a few levels older then some of you replying it seems.

Im 39, GF is 10.5 years older then me.

She may very well be kinda a nerd like me..

The first time i met her was new years eve party at my house 2015-2016. As im dueling with one of my buddies with a pair of lightsabers about 20 mins before midnight she comes over with a couple other buddies. We got to talking.. she even took a blade and swing it a few times with a big smile on her face.

Over the past 15 months ive been dating her. Ive painted just shy of 400 figures, mostly marines or wolves.. Shes painted a couple doll houses and assorted other small things (signs and such) and even went out and bought a missile devastator squad from a random dude on craigslist so she would have some marines to paint that wouldnt effect my bit counts (not that i have an issue with giving her a couple squads.. more she dont have time)

She loves watching me paint.. I cant talk while i paint as i focus so well.. However i can listen.. and when i take breaks i reply back.. lets her ramble a bit and i can keep my monkey mind busy listen to her and hyper focus on the painting..

She also is very proud of my work.. even her daughters in their 20s think my figures are cool.. the one daughters fiance loves my army.. wants to come over and play a game some day, even offered to bring a couple gallons of some ale hes brewing.

NOt that i am that good of a painter.. but its all ive done the past year pretty much. had been collecting for years, never the space to build them.. now i do. Its fun.

Basically my high ramble here is me saying. The woman i love fell for me when she saw me get smacked in the backside with a lightsaber cuz i stopped in my tracks when i saw her.

 Alpharius wrote:
How has there not been a famous C.S. Lewis quote appearance in this thread yet?!?

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

It's not Lewis, but a novelist by any other name. Besides, I think it's rather relevant to the topic.

Nerds are now socially acceptible, but there are always some bigoted feminists who want to turn the clocks back.
The comments section is thankfully accumulating a lot of well due scorn.

Who is this 'Shane Watson' to encourage an ostracism of people for having legally acceptable hobbies she doesn't like.

 Orlanth wrote:
some bigoted feminists

Random attack on some group you don't like is (very) random.

 Orlanth wrote:
Nerds are now socially acceptible, but there are always some bigoted feminists who want to turn the clocks back.

Lolwut? I know plenty of geeky feminists who buy toys as adults, and I don't think I've ever heard anyone make the argument that feminism means adults buying toys is wrong. And most of the feminist criticism of geek culture has been from the point of view of women who want to be part of it, not some awful tyrants trying to crush everything that men love. So I'm going to have to conclude that your complaint about feminism here has more to do with your personal dislike of feminism and need to complain about it than any on-topic relevance.

Who is this 'Shane Watson' to encourage an ostracism of people for having legally acceptable hobbies she doesn't like.

Apparently the newspaper's "write shallow fluff pieces that nobody cares about" author. A quick look at the other articles she's written doesn't show anything that seems especially "feminist" to me.