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 warboss wrote:
Thanks! That went up as scheduled although it's in wiki form by fans. I wonder if Paizo will post a single art free download of the core (off to check their site!).

That isn't something Paizo does. There will be an equivalent of the prd at some point. (Compare here: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/)




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Now that I've dabbled in the character creation rules and some of the background, I must say that I'm impressed with the attention to balance and organized play.

I can't say I've delved far enough to discover too many "flaws," but time will tell...
   
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While this is really old news at this point, the Alien Archive has been out for a little while, and reviews are generally positive.

Lots of new payable races, and a very good appendix on creating your own critters.

The biggest con (if you're not doing the $9.95 PDF) is the price for a fairly thin hardback.
   
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Starfinder Armory coming this summer.

Part of me is glad that Paizo is moving at a measured pace on new releases for the game. Part of me wants it now...
   
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Holy Terra

Anybody playing this?

   
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I've seen it played locally but am not playing it myself despite my interest. While you can play with just the (admittedly full featured) core book, not releasing a dedicated core three book set probably didn't help it.
   
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There's a group playing this in Concord,CA. More people must be playing it because they keep buying the books.

Suspect a lot of sci-fi roleplaying fans are just happy to have a system that supports them with a modern ruleset

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 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

They ask, "Are you sure, sir?" when they serve you this 5-shots of espresso bladder-busting monstrosity that will have you so awake you will smell the color of dead terrorists.
 
   
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Holy Terra

 ChargerIIC wrote:
More people must be playing it because they keep buying the books.
Bad assumption

   
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We're playing it, and it seems to have a pretty good following in the SF Bay Area.
   
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Canterbury

..am kinda tempted.

See what the group thinks -- although it'll be me ponying up for the books as per usual one suspects



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Been having a bunch of fun with it myself.

 
   
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 warboss wrote:
I've seen it played locally but am not playing it myself despite my interest. While you can play with just the (admittedly full featured) core book, not releasing a dedicated core three book set probably didn't help it.


That also isn't something Paizo does. With good reason- there isn't much reason to do a 'DMG' style book that immediately suggests its aimed at ~20-25% of the customer base.

My take on Starfinder itself is pretty poor.
-I dislike several of the few classes (design approaches, abilities that don't really function or don't function out of combat- mechanic has several of both, which is shame because I like the idea of the class, at least the integrated AI variant), though nothing galls me more than the mystic. Every healer has to be a god-botherer with limited telepathy for no reason (despite that most classes get to choose class features as they go, this one doesn't. And they're themes are largely terrible, and sometimes outright offensive. The goddess of all things Noble and Good sponsors mind-rapists just like the evil gods of monsters and S&M. Er... whatnow?
Not that healing really works well in SF- if a party member doesn't have all their stamina blown away and hasn't started taking HP damage, healing doesn't do squat.

-some systems were just left unfinished (and are also mechanically bad, see archetypes),

-editing and layout is kind of a mess with a fair amount of contradiction (you can see where they changed their mind on some rules, but missed erasing it entirely, like dex to damage) and

-a lot of cross-referencing and page flipping is required (lots of see rule x, and lots of rules that look like they apply but don't (thrown grenades don't function like thrown weapons), or have an important clause just tacked on at the end (like automatic fire: surprise! it's terrible and also takes a big penalty to hit if you read to the end)

and the some of the rules just don't work (the scaling DCs for starships- you actually get worse at piloting your ship as you upgrade it).

- and a lot of change for the sake of change from Pathfinder, some of which is better, other elements are just weird and a fair amount is worse.

-Combine with the 'this tall to ride' weapon ratings, the weirdly scaling damage that really doesn't match enemy HP, and pop-gun starting weapons. And every class is best served by burning feats on rifles or something (proficiency and specialization) as most of the classes don't have combat options that are better than just shooting fools.

- a lot of weird setting/mechanics tie ins (everyone is in a spacesuit always, because all armor explicitly is a space suit and they work even when broken, so vacuum and environmental effects are basically never a problem)

-and the setting itself is... bleh. Multiversal simultaneous mindwipe even on the most powerful of beings, and every mystery in the galaxy is basically present in the home system, with layer upon layer of old gods, to the point that the High Priest of Nyarlathotep is a great and admired hero for fighting off Even Elder-er Gods.

- and a lot of basic genre tropes either don't function or are absolutely mechanically poor decisions. Heirloom laser sword? Nope, chuck it for the next upgrade. Personal sidearm like a Blastech DL-44? Nope, chuck it. Go into debt for a starship upgrade? Nope, can't buy ship bits for money because fiat. But they will come free when the party levels, so don't worry about it. Want to arm soldiers for dangerous combat? Tough, they're too low level to have real guns, break out the pop guns and watch 'em die horribly. So what if they're elite guards for the actual weapons manufacturer- the levels don't match, so nope.

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Was reminded of this thread. I live int eh concord area and right next to last weekend's RTT 40k tournament was a Starfinder game with about a half dozen players. They seemed to be having fun, altough true to RPG Law, someone named their drone 'mr. dot com' and proceeded to make puns about it the entire session.

Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.


 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

They ask, "Are you sure, sir?" when they serve you this 5-shots of espresso bladder-busting monstrosity that will have you so awake you will smell the color of dead terrorists.
 
   
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My group just started playing this and it seems to be a good, solid system. I'm told, by others that have played Pathfinder, that this has cleaned up a lot of the "frayed" and "messier" aspects of that system.

For miniatures, we just converted / kit-bashed a bunch of Reaper Bones Cavs, Black Stars and Fantasy minis to make a bunch in no time.



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Sounds reasonable. There are some official minis supposedly coming out by Soda Pop Minis (or their other name Ninja Division.. can't remember which) but everything of theirs from the last year or two seems to be significantly delayed. I recommend the prepainted Star Wars minis from the old WOTC line as well as a cheap, no fuss way of filling in NPCs and enemies.
   
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Other than the Ysoki player, our party is made up entirely of Infinity models.

I definitely enjoy the game and the system, but the rulebook can have an annoying tendency to make to flip back and forth between different sections to figure out how a piece of equipment works. Grenades especially felt like a choose your own adventure level of page flipping to nail down.

 
   
 
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