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p5freak wrote:As a space marine player i could easily spend 5-10 command points each turn. Rerolling one die each phase is already 6 points. Then there are plenty of stratagems in the SM codex to choose from.

I actually thought the strategems could only be used once per battle round. Once per phase means I could probably burn through more than I expected as well.

drbored wrote:Brigades are neat. I don't think Space Marines can make one that's cheaper than anything Tau or IG can put out. But, if you can fill out a Brigade with about 600 points, that leaves another 1400 points that you can add in. Heck, if all it takes is 600 points, make 3 Brigades and use 200 points to upgrade some units. That's 18 Command Points, plus another 3 for Battleforged, so 21 command points, which is about 4 points per turn, and you'll actually have a decent amount of models on the table.

Pretty sure brigades give 9 CP's, so that would be 27 + 3 for a juicy 30 command points.

Welp, cheapest I got for AdMech is 1,413 points:

[3 HQ's]
3 Domini
w/ Volkite Blaster & Macrostubber

[6 Troops]
6 5-Man Vanguard
w/ Rad Carbines

[3 Elites]
3 4-man Servitors
w/ Heavy Bolters

[3 Fast Attack]
3 Dragoons
w/ Jezzails

[3 Heavy Support]
3 Dunecrawlers
w/ Erad or Phosphor
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But Taghmata can do it better, eheheh:
(Still won't compare to the rest of yous, though)

[995 Points]

[3 HQ's]
3 Domini [225]

[6 Troops]
6 10-Man AdSec [210]

[3 Elites]
3 Tech-Priest Auxiliaries [195]

[3 Fast Attack]
3 Tarantulas [90]

[3 Heavy Support]
3 Krios [375]

So much faster to do these quick sums with 7th Ed book layouts, oh aye.

Yeh AdMech is really being screwed over so far in 8th. Especially when I see Imperial Guard getting HQ slots filled for 30 points, and I think the cheapest AdMech HQ is like 135 points.

Really needs a Skitarii HQ choice that's like less than 50 points.

Cheapest Tyranid Brigade also worst list ever;

++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Tyranids) [42 PL, 762pts] ++

+ HQ +

Malanthropes [5 PL, 90pts]: Malanthrope

Malanthropes [5 PL, 90pts]: Malanthrope

Malanthropes [5 PL, 90pts]: Malanthrope

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarm [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

Ripper Swarm [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

Ripper Swarm [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

Ripper Swarm [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

Ripper Swarm [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

Ripper Swarm [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

+ Elites +

Pyrovores [2 PL, 42pts]
. Pyrovore: Acid Maw, Flamespurt

Pyrovores [2 PL, 42pts]
. Pyrovore: Acid Maw, Flamespurt

Pyrovores [2 PL, 42pts]
. Pyrovore: Acid Maw, Flamespurt

+ Fast Attack +

Mucolid Spores [1 PL, 20pts]: Mucolid Spore

Mucolid Spores [1 PL, 20pts]: Mucolid Spore

Mucolid Spores [1 PL, 20pts]: Mucolid Spore

+ Heavy Support +

Biovores [2 PL, 36pts]
. Biovore: Spore Mine Launcher

Biovores [2 PL, 36pts]
. Biovore: Spore Mine Launcher

Biovores [2 PL, 36pts]
. Biovore: Spore Mine Launcher

++ Total: [42 PL, 762pts] ++


I think GSC have one of the most expensive Cheapest Brigades but hell it actually looks fun to play load up 3 transports with Acolytes and Iconwards and go blow stuff up with Demolition Caches

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++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) [75 PL, 1230pts] ++

+ HQ +

Acolyte Iconward [3 PL, 53pts]

Acolyte Iconward [3 PL, 53pts]

Acolyte Iconward [3 PL, 53pts]

+ Troops +

Acolyte Hybrids [5 PL, 55pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

Acolyte Hybrids [5 PL, 55pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

Acolyte Hybrids [5 PL, 55pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

Acolyte Hybrids [5 PL, 55pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

Acolyte Hybrids [5 PL, 55pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

Acolyte Hybrids [5 PL, 55pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

+ Elites +

Purestrain Genestealers [4 PL, 75pts]: 5x Purestrain Genestealer

Purestrain Genestealers [4 PL, 75pts]: 5x Purestrain Genestealer

Purestrain Genestealers [4 PL, 75pts]: 5x Purestrain Genestealer

+ Fast Attack +

Cult Scout Sentinels [2 PL, 45pts]
. Cult Scout Sentinel: Multi-laser

Cult Scout Sentinels [2 PL, 45pts]
. Cult Scout Sentinel: Multi-laser

Cult Scout Sentinels [2 PL, 45pts]
. Cult Scout Sentinel: Multi-laser

+ Heavy Support +

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 127pts]: Heavy Mining Laser, Heavy Stubber

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 127pts]: Heavy Mining Laser, Heavy Stubber

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 127pts]: Heavy Mining Laser, Heavy Stubber

++ Total: [75 PL, 1230pts] ++

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Niiru wrote:

I actually thought the strategems could only be used once per battle round. Once per phase means I could probably burn through more than I expected as well.

How do you spend 12 command points in a 5 round game, if you can only spend one per round ? You can use as many different stratagems per phase as you like, but not the same twice.

p5freak wrote:

Niiru wrote:

I actually thought the strategems could only be used once per battle round. Once per phase means I could probably burn through more than I expected as well.

How do you spend 12 command points in a 5 round game, if you can only spend one per round ? You can use as many different stratagems per phase as you like, but not the same twice.

I meant each strategem only once, not only one command point. Theres a lot of strategems to choose from. But I re-read it anyway like I said, its per phase.

The cheapest Necron list is 1425 and would be tabled on turn 1 most likely


++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Necrons) [72 PL, 1425pts] ++

+ HQ +

Lord [5 PL, 91pts]: Staff of Light
Lord [5 PL, 91pts]: Staff of Light
Lord [5 PL, 91pts]: Staff of Light

+ Troops +

Immortals [4 PL, 85pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal
Immortals [4 PL, 85pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal
Immortals [4 PL, 85pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal
Immortals [4 PL, 85pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal
Immortals [4 PL, 85pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal
Immortals [4 PL, 85pts]: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

+ Elites +

Deathmarks [5 PL, 100pts]: 5x Deathmark
Deathmarks [5 PL, 100pts]: 5x Deathmark
Deathmarks [5 PL, 100pts]: 5x Deathmark

+ Fast Attack +

Canoptek Scarabs [2 PL, 39pts]: 3x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs [2 PL, 39pts]: 3x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs [2 PL, 39pts]: 3x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Destroyers [4 PL, 75pts]
. Heavy Destroyer: Heavy Gauss Cannon
Heavy Destroyers [4 PL, 75pts]
. Heavy Destroyer: Heavy Gauss Cannon
Heavy Destroyers [4 PL, 75pts]
. Heavy Destroyer: Heavy Gauss Cannon

++ Total: [72 PL, 1425pts] ++