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One of our lower ranked "Celebrities" came out of the cinema, tears streaming down her cheeks after seeing Baz Luhrman's Romeo+Juliet film.

"Nobody told me they BOTH died ..."

Uh, if she'd paid attention at school, she might have known that bit (she was in her 30s).

As for myself, while friends and I were walking past the queue of people waiting to go in to watch Titanic (We'd just come out from seeing another movie), I did mention my favourite scene being the one where Leonardo's character gets churned into sharkfood by the ships screws.
Some angry punter yelled at me "Thanks for spoiling the movie, mate!"

You can't have 'spoilers' for a historical event. Someone who cries spoilers over something like Apollo 13 or Titanic is just an idiot.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Here's another interesting thought: what about old stuff? Sure, we might say it's cool to spoil the summer blockbuster that came out last year as everybody who cares would have seen it by now, but what about a movie from 40+ years ago? You're finally getting around to watching Psycho and someone tells you how it ends. Citizen Kane, Casablanca, or The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

"There are two kinds of people. Those with guns..."

If it’s been a year you have no right to expect others to stop discussing something you didn’t see. If it’s been that long you probably won’t see it anyway.

 Laemos wrote:
If it’s been a year you have no right to expect others to stop discussing something you didn’t see. If it’s been that long you probably won’t see it anyway.

While I think the former is completely true, I wouldn't be so sure on the later. Until last month I'd only seen up to season 4 of Game of Thrones for lack of an HBO or interest and just recently watched 5, 6, and 7. Now I already knew stuff was coming cause it's impossible to hide from it, but there've been many shows, games, or movies I've only seen well after they originally came out. I mean my reading list for books is probably long enough to constitute a novella at this point!

Life is busy. We can't always get to the things we want when they first come out, and we might even forget about them for ages before the random thought "oh I missed that" even occurs to us. Happens to me all the time.

Voss wrote:
There isn't any reason not to spoiler something- it's just basic manners.

No, because exactly what is or isn't a spoiler isn't that clear. "You should see the movie because I know you like big twists" is a spoiler, because it tells the other person that there's a big twist, which means they're likely to spot the twist ahead of time, possibly ruining the experience for them.

There's also loads of places where trying to give spoiler warning aren't practical. Twitter has a character limit that makes putting "TV SHOW SPOILER WARNING" at the front of each spoiler tweetnot sensible. At a party or in office conversation people overhear or enter conversations part way through, so any spoiler warning conversation at the start of the conversation won't help everyone.

And that's before you get on to sport. Some people record games and watch them later, and hate it if people spoil the result of the game. But people around them know the result, and even if they don't say who won, their moods will be very different if the local team won.

It is true that people should take reasonable efforts to avoid accidentally spoiling stuff for other people. But people who aren't to speed are being unreasonable if they think that any time something gets spoiled for them then its because someone else has done something wrong and must be made to feel guilty. They also have some responsibility to avoid areas where spoiler warnings aren't completely practical, and they also have to accept that sometimes spoilers sometimes happen.


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 Paradigm wrote:

Spoiler:

In a discussion about Logan, feel free to talk about Logan dying. In a discussion about GotG2, feel free to talk about Yondu dying. But going into the GotG discussion and saying something like 'Wow, Yondu dying was sad, but not as bad as Logan dying!' then you're spoiling a major plot point at the finale of a film it's unfair to assume everyone discussing Guardians has also seen.

At the end of the day, warning people that you're about to spoiler something is a courtesy that even in a written medium takes only a few seconds of your time, and it's always worth just erring on the side of caution, I think. We've all had things spoiled for us in the past that we didn't want, so we should try and make sure we don't do that to anyone else if possible.

Yeah, but consider how that conversation takes place. People are talking about the sad death in movie 1, and someone says they want to make a comparison but before they do so they'll check for spoilers and ask if everyone has seen movie 2. Okay, great, that gives people a chance to avoid being spoilered, except they just got told there's a sad death in movie 2.

Spoiler warnings are good and people should use them when they're not sure if someone following the conversation knows the spoiler, but they're far from a perfect answer.

 LordofHats wrote:
Life is busy. We can't always get to the things we want when they first come out, and we might even forget about them for ages before the random thought "oh I missed that" even occurs to us. Happens to me all the time.

I agree but that shouldn't be a barrier preventing other people from talking about a movie/story/etc. I have a friend who gets really pissed when I and others talk about GoT stuff. He hasn't read the books or watched the show and is waiting until the show ends before he does AND expects us to not spoiler it for him. WTF? No, that is not reasonable.

Nah that's a dick move. He's willfully chosen not to watch till he can binge, which more power to him, but it's not like circumstances are making him miss out.

Spoilers just have a bad name. They should be called enhancers:
https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/spoiler-alert-spoilers-make-you-enjoy-stories-more