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my list have 3 lascannon havocs already, 12 obliterators give me a good antitank power, i already tried 12 oblys against a full mechanized marine list and i wrecked a SR 3 razorbacks and 1 predator in 4 turns and i didn't have the havocs. I use havocs with MoN from alpha legion cause i put them in a cover away from opponent and force him hit them at -1 and if needed i use miasma of pestilence for a further -1, in cover they last long, MoS is nice but i prefer durability, if i need to shoot twice i use Sl oblys.
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