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Fixture of Dakka






Falls Church, VA

I have plenty of Hellstrikes - 4 for my Thunderbolt alone, and a bunch more lying around somewhere.

Did you say you /would/ or /would not/ magnetize?


And thanks for the pic, necrontyr, though I've heard tell that the Marauder Destroyer is considerably heavier than the Marauder Bomber for reasons I have been unable to discern.

Some people say they know no fear. What they mean is that they have encountered and conquered it. I, on the other hand, truly know no fear. It is as alien to me as doubt, rage, or mercy.

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Preacher of the Emperor





St. Louis, Missouri USA

 necrontyrOG wrote:
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The GW flying stand looks and works just fine IMHO. Just gotta make sure you find the center of balance for the model (which is right about smack dab in the middle of the bomb bay doors.) Make sure you glue the stand to base real good too.
I like how you killed a guy and stole his vultures, and then positioned his skull so he has to watch you play with them forever. Talk about insult to injury..

 
   
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot






Maryland, USA

Now that is a spiffy mini!

How does the base interface with the stalk, though? I remember years ago (c. 2005) doing up someone's FW Valk (before they were plastic kits) and the flight stand sheared off at the base when it got bumped.

M.

Codex: Soyuzki - A fluffy guidebook to my Astra Militarum subfaction. Now version 0.6!
Another way would be to simply slide the landraider sideways like a big slowed hovercraft full of eels. -pismakron
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Fixture of Dakka






Falls Church, VA

Alright everyone ITT, I placed the order for my Marauder Destroyer! Everyone pray to whatever gods they follow that this great project works out!

I'm excited for my Inquisition to have some heavy guns, and I have always wanted a Marauder...

Some people say they know no fear. What they mean is that they have encountered and conquered it. I, on the other hand, truly know no fear. It is as alien to me as doubt, rage, or mercy.

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Regular Dakkanaut




Washington State

 deviantduck wrote:
 necrontyrOG wrote:
Spoiler:


The GW flying stand looks and works just fine IMHO. Just gotta make sure you find the center of balance for the model (which is right about smack dab in the middle of the bomb bay doors.) Make sure you glue the stand to base real good too.
I like how you killed a guy and stole his vultures, and then positioned his skull so he has to watch you play with them forever. Talk about insult to injury..


Sometimes a little murder is necessary in this hobby.

Infantryman wrote: Now that is a spiffy mini!

How does the base interface with the stalk, though? I remember years ago (c. 2005) doing up someone's FW Valk (before they were plastic kits) and the flight stand sheared off at the base when it got bumped.

M.

The kit comes with an attachment to secure to the model that allows the stand to attach. Basically it's a flight stand hole you can glue anywhere to the model.
   
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Sorry, I meant to the base!

M.

Codex: Soyuzki - A fluffy guidebook to my Astra Militarum subfaction. Now version 0.6!
Another way would be to simply slide the landraider sideways like a big slowed hovercraft full of eels. -pismakron
Sometimes a little murder is necessary in this hobby. -necrontyrOG

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 Infantryman wrote:
Sorry, I meant to the base!

M.


Oh, it just glues on. Make sure it's clean and flat, and a good application of superglue. Never had an issue with them.
   
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RNAS Rockall

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

Did you say you /would/ or /would not/ magnetize?

I would not; by virtue of having lost so many of them now. I'm actually having to dig in to the missile reserves to keep the poor thing armed.

ALSO something that hasn't been mentioned much; the Marauder's stand slot on the model itself is a *single* piece of resin that you glue where you want it. I toyed with the idea of having it canted at 45 degrees for a very long while, and it would have worked but made the thing a display model only as moving it would be a nightmare. It is also a bit on the shallow side. Consequently I'd suggest getting a 4~mm drill bit and digging into the hull a bit so that a. the center of gravity is a bit lower and b. the stem has a more snug fit.

Also also, it's possible to assemble the marauder destroyer ( dunno about the bomber) in such a way that it will fit into a 1 KRU box. Attached is how I did it. The cockpit and main chasis as one piece, each wing as one piece and the tail fin section as one piece. In the latter case I used some magnets for flush fit, but the block of resin that it comes on is adequate. The tail section is also probably why it's heavier, or at least more awkwardly balanced as built in the pic, it weighs almost as much as the wing and is notably larger than the bomber version.
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Thanks for the input malamis!

As for basing, I actually took a different route entirely that I saw while doing research: there is a 3rd party company that makes bases specifically designed to hold up Thunderhawks. I sent them an email and asked if it would be fine for a Marauder, and their reply was to send me pictures of Marauders on the same base (so yes!).

I went ahead and ordered it. The base consists of a purpose-designed 200mm (just under 8") circular base that's fairly thick and comes with decorations on top, and a 1/2" acrylic rod that fits into the base and then into a piece on the top, that you then glue (presumably) to the underside of the aircraft in question.

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What was the company?

M.

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Stability comes from centre of gravity manipulation. The easiest way aside from centering your plane on the rod is to lower the COG but using short rods looks silly.

You can achieve the same lowering of COG by adding weight to the base. Stick on wheel weights, fishing sinkers are higher density than washers from the hardware store. any mechanic/tyre shop has alot of junk wheel weights they throw away since once pealed off the glue doesnt stick on again. so ask for these or get some fising sinkers and squash them.

the other alternative is get a stainless steel plate and get someone to cut you the base size oval you need from it then weld a piece of hollow metal tube make this say 1"-2" in height and its internal size should be big enhouh to accomodate your acrylic rod. so making a male->female mating joint.
put a strong magnet on the bottom of the rod so you can pull it out and put it back in as needed. at the top of the rod use a mating plate with magnets which will attach to the aircraft underside with matched magnets. so in effect making your model 3 piece. easy for transport. and unless you are going to field multiple fliers each and every game you most likely only need 3 bases and can mix match what flier goes on top of the rod.

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 Infantryman wrote:
What was the company?

M.


http://dragonforge.com/Painting%20service/for%20sale/base_sets/sci-fi/urban_rubble.htm

Second to last base on this page!

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Oof, $50 for the base!

Suppose if it works well, though...

M.

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My only concern about bases that size are potential advantages gained. For example, in regards to objective control. An 8” base placed over an objective market basically means you control that objective (Destroyer is a LoW not a “Flyer” so can technically still control objectives and count towards “Boots on the ground”), as even a unit that charges the Destroyer likely won’t be able to get within 3” of the objective to contest (marker generally being 1” in diameter). They’d be relying on destroying the Destroyer.

Now, I don’t expect this to happen in most games, but, all this talk of big planes is making me want to revisit my Elysian dream of 3 Destroyers (or 2 Destroyers and 1 Bomber) supporting Elysian troops. The one regret being that the Destroyer can’t actually be Elysian.

It’d be about as competitive as a wet paper towel in the tournament scene, unless people don’t bring mass anti-tank, but, would be hilariously broken for most standard games.
   
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Kdash wrote:
My only concern about bases that size are potential advantages gained. For example, in regards to objective control. An 8” base placed over an objective market basically means you control that objective (Destroyer is a LoW not a “Flyer” so can technically still control objectives and count towards “Boots on the ground”), as even a unit that charges the Destroyer likely won’t be able to get within 3” of the objective to contest (marker generally being 1” in diameter). They’d be relying on destroying the Destroyer.

Now, I don’t expect this to happen in most games, but, all this talk of big planes is making me want to revisit my Elysian dream of 3 Destroyers (or 2 Destroyers and 1 Bomber) supporting Elysian troops. The one regret being that the Destroyer can’t actually be Elysian.

It’d be about as competitive as a wet paper towel in the tournament scene, unless people don’t bring mass anti-tank, but, would be hilariously broken for most standard games.


While strictly true, I would never play this way. HIWPI is that the Marauder is a "flyer" for Boots on the Ground and objective scoring purposes.

While the enemy may not be able to get within 3" of an objective the Marauder is "sitting on", neither can I (since bases cannot overlap) and so at best I can guarantee it is neutral. Plus, the Marauder lacks a hover mode, and so it would require very very very advanced planning (likely to the first turn of the game) to pick a specific objective so that I can make my little "squares" (due to the 90 degree pivot) to land on it, and I can only land on it for one turn before I have to move off again, and I can only land on it in the first place if there is no unit (friend or foe) where the Marauder's base would land.

So yes, while theoretically possible, it seems difficult.


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Also, sorry for double post but:

How should I paint the Marauder? It's flying in support of the Inquisition, and probably was dedicated to such a task beforehand, but I doubt they'd repaint the whole plane, or would they?

Should it be matte black (with detailing of course) to match my vehicles? Or perhaps a normal colour with the squadron markings blacked out? Or even just an unmodified Navy bomber with its squadron and origin markings on? Or something else entirely?

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Some people say they know no fear. What they mean is that they have encountered and conquered it. I, on the other hand, truly know no fear. It is as alien to me as doubt, rage, or mercy.

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I had considered getting a large, stable base and drawing out the "standard" base size on it in some way (ruin, clutter, etc). and counting it like that. Only that "official" area counts. Everything else is structural security.

M.

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Unit1126PLL wrote: Should it be matte black (with detailing of course) to match my vehicles? Or perhaps a normal colour with the squadron markings blacked out? Or even just an unmodified Navy bomber with its squadron and origin markings on? Or something else entirely?


Since they're Navy and never <Regiment> or Inquisition, I'd just do it up as a regular Naval scheme of choice. Then it can be used in more than one army with ease

If you only want to dedicate it to the Inquisition, I'm sure they'd hand out some kind of seal or do-dad to represent a blessing from them.

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Codex: Soyuzki - A fluffy guidebook to my Astra Militarum subfaction. Now version 0.6!
Another way would be to simply slide the landraider sideways like a big slowed hovercraft full of eels. -pismakron
Sometimes a little murder is necessary in this hobby. -necrontyrOG

Out-of-the-loop from November 2010 - November 2017 so please excuse my ignorance!
 
   
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Falls Church, VA

 Infantryman wrote:
I had considered getting a large, stable base and drawing out the "standard" base size on it in some way (ruin, clutter, etc). and counting it like that. Only that "official" area counts. Everything else is structural security.

M.

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Unit1126PLL wrote: Should it be matte black (with detailing of course) to match my vehicles? Or perhaps a normal colour with the squadron markings blacked out? Or even just an unmodified Navy bomber with its squadron and origin markings on? Or something else entirely?


Since they're Navy and never <Regiment> or Inquisition, I'd just do it up as a regular Naval scheme of choice. Then it can be used in more than one army with ease

If you only want to dedicate it to the Inquisition, I'm sure they'd hand out some kind of seal or do-dad to represent a blessing from them.



Good point; I doubt the navy repaints its bombers for every run. The only reason to black out the Squadron Markings is I don't have to say it's exactly the same plane from exactly the same squadron every game, even when it's being played on the opposite side of the galaxy.

Some people say they know no fear. What they mean is that they have encountered and conquered it. I, on the other hand, truly know no fear. It is as alien to me as doubt, rage, or mercy.

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Maryland, USA

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
[Good point; I doubt the navy repaints its bombers for every run. The only reason to black out the Squadron Markings is I don't have to say it's exactly the same plane from exactly the same squadron every game, even when it's being played on the opposite side of the galaxy.


The US Navy definitely doesn't these days - the exception being "Command of the Air Group" (CAG) bird (planes with numbers ending in 00 - a "doublenuts"). Those can get some fancy scemes, though still usually mostly Haze Grey. In so far as you can camouflage a jet, that works very well. Back in Desert Storm Desert Tan was applied to A-6s, but that didn't carry on.

The upside to 40k is that you can do just about whatever - the old Forge World books did have cammo schemes. I suspect a black or dark blue to be their version of "haze grey", on account of space always being black. For sustained combat operations they probably meticulously repaint them to match whatever area they're fighting in. If it was tied to just one army for sure, I'd just match their scheme to emulate that. The Inquisition, however, knows they have no need to hide!

M.

Codex: Soyuzki - A fluffy guidebook to my Astra Militarum subfaction. Now version 0.6!
Another way would be to simply slide the landraider sideways like a big slowed hovercraft full of eels. -pismakron
Sometimes a little murder is necessary in this hobby. -necrontyrOG

Out-of-the-loop from November 2010 - November 2017 so please excuse my ignorance!
 
   
 
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