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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/25 15:13:48
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Galef wrote: gkos wrote:I would say the distance between the two nearest parts of the model must be 5"
And it has to form an arch.. so they must be on the same level.
Sounds like they have got the setup sorted.. well for me anyway!
Right, but my point is that the tops of the spire are much closer to each other than the bottoms. Meaning 5" between the tops could be 7-8" at the bottoms, which would be the best option.
But most likely it is 5" at the base, meaning it much more difficulty in placement.
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If a model has a base, you must measure from the base. If it doesn't, you measure from the model. So if it has a base, it's 5" from the base.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/25 15:25:04
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Jidmah wrote: Galef wrote: gkos wrote:I would say the distance between the two nearest parts of the model must be 5"
And it has to form an arch.. so they must be on the same level.
Sounds like they have got the setup sorted.. well for me anyway!
Right, but my point is that the tops of the spire are much closer to each other than the bottoms. Meaning 5" between the tops could be 7-8" at the bottoms, which would be the best option.
But most likely it is 5" at the base, meaning it much more difficulty in placement.
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If a model has a base, you must measure from the base. If it doesn't, you measure from the model. So if it has a base, it's 5" from the base.
The model doesn't have a base (in this case 2 bases, since you're talking about 2 parts of the webay portal). Going by the pictures of the portal, it looks like their intention at least is 5" from each side where it's touching the ground. If they don't make it clear in the rules, however, then you could argue that you could measure that between the parts at the top.
Also, that rule's covering measuring between different models, not for measuring distance between two parts of what's supposed to be the same model (from a rules standpoint). Otherwise, if they only say 5" distance between the 2, you would have to do it at the top (the 2 nearest points), which doesn't look like what they intend for people to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/27 14:26:40
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Well, some reviews are out on Youtube and as Fresus had alluded to the exact wording on the set-up does say 5" apart.
The complete wording is:
"... place that so that an arch is formed with the bases 5" apart"
So while the spire do not have bases, it's clear they mena the bottom of the spires and they must be exactly 5" apart. No more, no less. Frustratingly restrictive
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/27 15:12:47
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Got mine and made some pre measures you need something along 20" x 9" of free space in the table to be able to deploy it.
If you play in a table with lots of terrain it can be almost impossible to properly deploy it if you play in a less heavy terrain table this thing alone can just deny deepstrike deployment in a whole quarter of the table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/27 15:52:22
Subject: Re:Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Also, in case anyone is wondering, the gate is made of the usual GW plastic, not the lower-quality one they use on some terrain and sculpted bases. It was something I was really worried about when I first saw the price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/27 15:52:58
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Rampaging Carnifex
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This thing has to have the Terrain and Objective restrictions removed for it be useable. Are those even an issue? It can be destroyed after all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/27 17:56:42
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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BaconCatBug wrote:The game doesn't have any generic rules to handle what happens if you can't deploy a model, outside of bespoke rules like the Genestealer Cult ambush rule.
So, as usual, the game breaks.
No it doesn’t it. You use common sense and agree something to carry on with your opponent. Easy. People break the game not rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/27 18:28:31
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Andykp wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:The game doesn't have any generic rules to handle what happens if you can't deploy a model, outside of bespoke rules like the Genestealer Cult ambush rule.
So, as usual, the game breaks.
No it doesn’t it. You use common sense and agree something to carry on with your opponent. Easy. People break the game not rules.
Love this.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/27 18:29:53
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Andykp wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:The game doesn't have any generic rules to handle what happens if you can't deploy a model, outside of bespoke rules like the Genestealer Cult ambush rule.
So, as usual, the game breaks.
No it doesn’t it. You use common sense and agree something to carry on with your opponent. Easy. People break the game not rules.
What page of the rules is this on? I can't find where it says to use Common Sense.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/28 12:55:27
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Happyjew wrote:Andykp wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:The game doesn't have any generic rules to handle what happens if you can't deploy a model, outside of bespoke rules like the Genestealer Cult ambush rule.
So, as usual, the game breaks.
No it doesn’t it. You use common sense and agree something to carry on with your opponent. Easy. People break the game not rules.
What page of the rules is this on? I can't find where it says to use Common Sense.
Your going to find life very tricky if you expect people to behave in ways that comply only with the rules. It isn’t a 40k rule. Common sense is an essential life skill applicable to any and all situations. They haven’t made a rule book for civil society so can’t quote a page. And it makes more sense than everyone packing up their toys had going home.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/28 14:35:02
Subject: Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Happyjew wrote:What page of the rules is this on? I can't find where it says to use Common Sense. You need to hold the BRB high over your head and then just drop it. Afterwards the rule will be right in front of you.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2018/05/28 14:36:04
7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/28 15:38:49
Subject: Re:Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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FYI, I sent an email to the FAQ.
I mostly explained that on my normal tables, there's usually no way for me to set it up legally, and asked what happens when you can't set it up. Like, is it destroyed? And if so, does it gives away VP?
I'm really hoping the remove the "more than 3" from terrain" crap, so at least it will be playable in casual games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/28 19:09:57
Subject: Re:Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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fresus wrote:I'm really hoping the remove the "more than 3" from terrain" crap, so at least it will be playable in casual games.
Agreed. 1" away from terrain features would do, but I'd be just a happy if they removed the restriction altogether. 3" away from an objective can stay as if makes some sense
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/05/29 17:30:27
Subject: Re:Can the Web Way gate even be deployed?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There are times it being close to terrain would be good. I think it’s look cool in amoungst a forest or old ruins. So will prob do same for our casual group.
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