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I think it says a lot when I did a Google image search after responding to this thread in jest, and found not one Repulsor that changed my mind. Normally I can find a version, or modification, or kit-bash, or unique paintjob, etc. for almost any model I don't like, which will change my mind and I'll think "Hmmm...okay, I could get down with that.". I went through the first 100+ images and not a single Repulsor* appealed to me at all.

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*This of course made me consider buying one and trying to save it...just for the challenge....and I don't even play marines.

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
What it needs is the ability to carry regular marines and Terminators (and maybe Centurions). And the Primaris need the boot in their behind so they can be stuffed in Raiders and Rhinos.

Yeah so stupid that they can't share vehicles, its not like they are so OP that giving them cheap transports is going to turn them into 7th edition wraithnights. Primaris are extremely expensive and the only CC unit they have doesn't need a transport. I think they want to do that so they can sell the new Primaris vehicles when they come but people are going to buy them as well, so stupid on GW account.


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 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
What it needs is the ability to carry regular marines and Terminators (and maybe Centurions). And the Primaris need the boot in their behind so they can be stuffed in Raiders and Rhinos.

I can see some lore justification for the (relatively) brand new stuff not being set up to carry both due to different connectors and safety harness configurations, but at the same time I feel like more options for Primaris would solve the problem of them having trouble hoofing it about the table.

What we really need is to give everyone the boot so they can all ride in Drop Pods again.

Safety harness, with SM's, come on dude, they are walking tanks, they wouldn't even need seat-belts in the DeLorean lol, plus the Mech could just make a converter for connectors. There is no lore justifications, an army has to be tactically flexible, if they are overrun and have to retreat you can't imagine them saying no thanks rhino driver, we don't have the right harnesses or connectors, we'll just sit here and wait to die, or telling a rhino driver, we can't come in and drive to the centre of the battle because we are not compatible with rhino tech.

I don't care how awesome you are, if your tank gets hit by a charging Carnifex and gets rolled you're going to want to be strapped in or else you might break your neck as you get tossed about.

But that might be my experience dealing with roll over drills in the Army.

It's a flying landraider with a turret on top...what is not to like? Check out modern tanks. Lots of guns on them. Missle pods - smoke launchers - main guns - hull mounts. The only thing it lacks is sponsons which...don't appear on any modern tanks.

I hated the look of the Repulsor at first. Now I give it a solid Meh.

The Repulsor is easily the most repulsive model in the entire GW range. This includes Death Guard and Great Unclean Ones. This is also coming from a guy who gives a solid thumbs up to Space Marine flyers as cool looking and doesn't even mind Centurians that much anymore.

Repulsor looks like a 5 year old's design. MOAR GUNS MORE MISSILES MORE BARRELS ON THE MOAR GUNS AND MAKE IT FLY.


Whoever said it has too much going on is right. Space Marine vehicles are fundamentally ugly to begin with, but each has its place. Rhinos are minimalist with a small pintle and large flat areas. Razors have a large gun instead. Vindicators have a single large cannon and dozer blade. Predators have a turre and sponsons. Stalkers have the twin AA guns and stablisers and the Hunter has the SAM turret and stabilisers. Land Raiders have the assault ramp and sponsons with a few weapons on top. But apart from these features they are pretty much a blank canvas. I've seen many paintjobs featuring frescos and beautiful artwork painted on the side of Rhinos and LRs. I even saw a LR with a recreation of The Creation of Adam on it.
Land Speeders are small hover vehicles with 1 or 2 guns max. Even the Land Speeder Vengeance or Darkshroud has 1 defining feature - a bit gun on the back or relic shrine thing.

The Repuslor has big prominent hover plates, a big prominent turret with two gatling guns and co-axial weapon, several hull mounts, AA weapons, missile racks all over. Its just a huge mess with no flat panels to do detail or large areas of colour. Its just so so so busy.

 Deadshot wrote:
The Repulsor is easily the most repulsive model in the entire GW range. This includes Death Guard and Great Unclean Ones. This is also coming from a guy who gives a solid thumbs up to Space Marine flyers as cool looking and doesn't even mind Centurians that much anymore.

Repulsor looks like a 5 year old's design. MOAR GUNS MORE MISSILES MORE BARRELS ON THE MOAR GUNS AND MAKE IT FLY.


Whoever said it has too much going on is right. Space Marine vehicles are fundamentally ugly to begin with, but each has its place. Rhinos are minimalist with a small pintle and large flat areas. Razors have a large gun instead. Vindicators have a single large cannon and dozer blade. Predators have a turre and sponsons. Stalkers have the twin AA guns and stablisers and the Hunter has the SAM turret and stabilisers. Land Raiders have the assault ramp and sponsons with a few weapons on top. But apart from these features they are pretty much a blank canvas. I've seen many paintjobs featuring frescos and beautiful artwork painted on the side of Rhinos and LRs. I even saw a LR with a recreation of The Creation of Adam on it.
Land Speeders are small hover vehicles with 1 or 2 guns max. Even the Land Speeder Vengeance or Darkshroud has 1 defining feature - a bit gun on the back or relic shrine thing.

The Repuslor has big prominent hover plates, a big prominent turret with two gatling guns and co-axial weapon, several hull mounts, AA weapons, missile racks all over. Its just a huge mess with no flat panels to do detail or large areas of colour. Its just so so so busy.

I really disliked the Repulsor for the same reasons, i feel like i managed to "de-juvenile" it a little

Sorry for the insta link, i just dont know how to do it any other way-

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjPZ3qBn9AV/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Process wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
The Repulsor is easily the most repulsive model in the entire GW range. This includes Death Guard and Great Unclean Ones. This is also coming from a guy who gives a solid thumbs up to Space Marine flyers as cool looking and doesn't even mind Centurians that much anymore.

Repulsor looks like a 5 year old's design. MOAR GUNS MORE MISSILES MORE BARRELS ON THE MOAR GUNS AND MAKE IT FLY.


Whoever said it has too much going on is right. Space Marine vehicles are fundamentally ugly to begin with, but each has its place. Rhinos are minimalist with a small pintle and large flat areas. Razors have a large gun instead. Vindicators have a single large cannon and dozer blade. Predators have a turre and sponsons. Stalkers have the twin AA guns and stablisers and the Hunter has the SAM turret and stabilisers. Land Raiders have the assault ramp and sponsons with a few weapons on top. But apart from these features they are pretty much a blank canvas. I've seen many paintjobs featuring frescos and beautiful artwork painted on the side of Rhinos and LRs. I even saw a LR with a recreation of The Creation of Adam on it.
Land Speeders are small hover vehicles with 1 or 2 guns max. Even the Land Speeder Vengeance or Darkshroud has 1 defining feature - a bit gun on the back or relic shrine thing.

The Repuslor has big prominent hover plates, a big prominent turret with two gatling guns and co-axial weapon, several hull mounts, AA weapons, missile racks all over. Its just a huge mess with no flat panels to do detail or large areas of colour. Its just so so so busy.

I really disliked the Repulsor for the same reasons, i feel like i managed to "de-juvenile" it a little

Sorry for the insta link, i just dont know how to do it any other way-

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjPZ3qBn9AV/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

That is what the repulsor should have looked like. My only qualm is the two gatling cannons are different sizes. That's absolutely not your fault, GW should have just giving it a Twin Gatling cannon turret to begin with, you've done a wonderful job! Large clean panels, a turret mount and a hull mount with low-key missile pods. Beautifully done!

I'm fine with all other weapons, except the little missile boxes on the turret. They look so tacked on. All other weapons are nicely integrated, the missiles over the doors are nicely recessed in the hull, but these really look like an afterthought.

I also think the model looks better without the gunner. It already has quite a high profile, and the gunner accentuates that.

Cheers mate, having used it a couple of times, i personally think they should have gone twin gatling cannon centrally mounted on the turret like the baal predator, then remove all of the missile boxes aside from the recessed ones. take away the pintle mount option as 24 S5 shots more than makes up for this and as another poster mentioned, the gunner makes the turret too tall and look too small.

As much as I kid about the Repulsor, I do like it’s concept - its basically an anti-grav Bradley AFV. I think GW did the typical thing of swinging for the fences and instead getting a pop fly. Process’s Repulsor model does look a lot better and more sane.

And I still think the limit of putting in Primaris only is a silly model-purchasing based limitation that needs to be yanked out by the roots.

Modern tanks have tons of junk on their turrets. It's only going to get worse too - with reactive armor and all that jazz. It looks realistic except for the fact that it floats... It's obvious to me most of you are just complaining to complain because you know old marines are going to fade away.


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Process wrote:

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 Deadshot wrote:

Process wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
The Repulsor is easily the most repulsive model in the entire GW range. This includes Death Guard and Great Unclean Ones. This is also coming from a guy who gives a solid thumbs up to Space Marine flyers as cool looking and doesn't even mind Centurians that much anymore.

Repulsor looks like a 5 year old's design. MOAR GUNS MORE MISSILES MORE BARRELS ON THE MOAR GUNS AND MAKE IT FLY.


Whoever said it has too much going on is right. Space Marine vehicles are fundamentally ugly to begin with, but each has its place. Rhinos are minimalist with a small pintle and large flat areas. Razors have a large gun instead. Vindicators have a single large cannon and dozer blade. Predators have a turre and sponsons. Stalkers have the twin AA guns and stablisers and the Hunter has the SAM turret and stabilisers. Land Raiders have the assault ramp and sponsons with a few weapons on top. But apart from these features they are pretty much a blank canvas. I've seen many paintjobs featuring frescos and beautiful artwork painted on the side of Rhinos and LRs. I even saw a LR with a recreation of The Creation of Adam on it.
Land Speeders are small hover vehicles with 1 or 2 guns max. Even the Land Speeder Vengeance or Darkshroud has 1 defining feature - a bit gun on the back or relic shrine thing.

The Repuslor has big prominent hover plates, a big prominent turret with two gatling guns and co-axial weapon, several hull mounts, AA weapons, missile racks all over. Its just a huge mess with no flat panels to do detail or large areas of colour. Its just so so so busy.

I really disliked the Repulsor for the same reasons, i feel like i managed to "de-juvenile" it a little

Sorry for the insta link, i just dont know how to do it any other way-

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjPZ3qBn9AV/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

That is what the repulsor should have looked like. My only qualm is the two gatling cannons are different sizes. That's absolutely not your fault, GW should have just giving it a Twin Gatling cannon turret to begin with, you've done a wonderful job! Large clean panels, a turret mount and a hull mount with low-key missile pods. Beautifully done!

Cheers mate, having used it a couple of times, i personally think they should have gone twin gatling cannon centrally mounted on the turret like the baal predator, then remove all of the missile boxes aside from the recessed ones. take away the pintle mount option as 24 S5 shots more than makes up for this and as another poster mentioned, the gunner makes the turret too tall and look too small.

I never put the gunner on a tank.
#1 - it's a waste of time
#2 - it looks stupid

 Xenomancers wrote:
... It's obvious to me most of you are just complaining to complain because you know old marines are going to fade away.

No, we're complaining because it looks juvenile, like Centurions look juvenile, and like the Storm Raven looks juvenile.

It's not about "newness". Intercessors are new, and they look great. They just look weird next to other models, and their lore is juvenile.

The Repulsor is a cool idea and the execution just misses the mark a bit.

Sure, Xeno. We're not complaining because we actually have an opinion that it looks like ass. We're solely complaining to complain. Do you read what you type?

I have eyes. It looks just like a land raider with some upgrades to make it fly. Do you think land raiders look like ass?


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 Insectum7 wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
... It's obvious to me most of you are just complaining to complain because you know old marines are going to fade away.

No, we're complaining because it looks juvenile, like Centurions look juvenile, and like the Storm Raven looks juvenile.

It's not about "newness". Intercessors are new, and they look great. They just look weird next to other models, and their lore is juvenile.

The Repulsor is a cool idea and the execution just misses the mark a bit.

You know how many people complain about intercessors looking bad? Lots do.

Does the back to the future flying car look juvenile? How about Bradely fighting vehcials?

This is really simple. It's not the thing itself that is the issue, It's the execution of said thing. A Bradley tank can be drawn by a trained technical artist with an eye to detail and proportion, but it can also be drawn by an 8 year old with poor attention span. The results will be different, even though the source material is exactly the same.

Well I am not an engineer - in regards to proportion and span though - I can think of a lot worse examples. It's proportion and span really seem identical to standard LR which basically have the same hull. The turret being small is the only thing that stands out but already being a huge tank - a larger Abrams like turret (which I think would look a lot better) would increase this things size way too much. Being an APC though - going with a bradly type turret is also cool.

I really don't get the complaints. Sure, there is a bit too much junk on the turret for my liking, but overall it looks pretty great. It also follows the design aesthetic of the older marine vehicles; it is not a radical departure besides being a grav tank.

I really hope we get more variants of it soon, it is a cool vehicle and more scify than the old tracked vehicles.

 Xenomancers wrote:
Well I am not an engineer - in regards to proportion and span though - I can think of a lot worse examples. It's proportion and span really seem identical to standard LR which basically have the same hull. The turret being small is the only thing that stands out but already being a huge tank - a larger Abrams like turret (which I think would look a lot better) would increase this things size way too much. Being an APC though - going with a bradly type turret is also cool.

Yes, It's a box of roughly the same dimensions as the Land Raider. That doesn't mean all the details of the design are integrated with the same balance. The devil is in the details.

This and the Land Raider share some vague aesthetic queues...that's about it. If you can't tell the difference, that's on you. And yes, I'm not in love with the current Land Raider (and I've just built a version of it, trying to make it look a bit better).

No one needs to justify why they don't like it. That's fortunately not how aesthetics and opinions work. Your argument is beginning to boil down to the internet's favourite "haters" nonsense. What do you care if we don't like the way a model looks? Why do you feel the need to defend the fact that you like it? We don't care. Just as you shouldn't care that we think it looks like ass. It doesn't impact you at all.

We're not wrong, and you're not right. You can have your opinion, no one minds. Just stop pretending your opinion is somehow a mathematical formula for being correct. Get over it. Just say "Hmmm, weird, I like it." and move on.

The Repulsor is a Space Marine centurion on tracks, then removed the tracks.

Space Marines always had a reserved aesthetic when it came to weaponry. Terminators had a double bolter as standard weaponry, and that was seen as a concession for firepower and could move and fire with a limited selection of heavy weaponry. Land raiders were mighty with two twin linked lascannon and the Predator was 'dripping' with guns with as many as five on the tank, including a pintel mount.

Then along came Centurions with guns all over. I was happy that the Primaris marines took a step back from this, with even Agressors being mostly restrained, especially if you choose the Firebat version, and the Primaris dreadnought having plenty of guns but being big to go with it.

Then along comes the Repulsor. I dont mind the massive number of weapon options, What I dont like is that the default is for all the guns to be on, and only upgradable.

I wouldn't mind so much if all the guns were optional extras and that only the main hull armament hardpoint, and maybe a turret was factory filled. I would like the option to simply not have most of the weaponry. I could turn the heavy stubber mount into an occulus, not add any pintel mounts, have the three deck turrets on the beam and rear optional mount hardpoints that you can leave off or even fill with defensive materiel like smoke launchers.

I want the boxes of weaponry on the turrets off those turrets, and strictly optional.

I want a reasonable tank.

On the flipside to Elbows: if you don't like it you should also just move on instead of browbeating people about how bad you think it looks.

I think once the Primaris get more vehicles that follow similar design notes to the Repulsor we'll start seeing it blend in more on the table. Right now it's kind of an ugly duck swimming around by itself instead of something that blends in with a wider line. It definitely has design notes from other Imperial vehicles (ranging from the Land Raider, Land Speeder, Predator and maybe even the Storm Raven (for the turbines) as well as a definite Mechanicus flair thrown in, but without other stuff of a similar type, it's not going to look "right" sitting in a collection.

Then again I'm basically on the Primaris train and trying to figure out what an all Primaris chapter looks like so who am I to have unbiased opinions?


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 Orlanth wrote:
I want a reasonable tank.

Reasonable is what the Tau do. What the Space Marines do is paint their two meter tall armour up in bright colors and charge towards the enemy while screaming about an Emperor that no one ever actually sees anymore. Sure you have more reserved chapters who employ surgical strikes and ambushes instead, but when actually using camouflage is seen as a selling point for how different a chapter is (Raptors chapter) you know that the idea of "reasonable" goes right out the window. I mean, rank for a Space Marine is a combination of how big your pauldrons are and how many skulls you have on your armour. "Subtle" is to a Space Marine as "restraint" is to the Dark Eldar: utterly impossible.

I'm not saying that Marines can't have more restrained designs, but let's be honest: the Imperium was never reasonable (just look at all that blipping gold in the Imperial Palace for Malcador's sake!) and as the poster boys of the Imperium the Space Marines should be even less reasonable by design.

That's just my two thrones though.

Always with the centurions...

They look so bad...they have lots of guns...They are in armor wearing a suit. OMG.

Like...do you even scifi?

 Xenomancers wrote:
Always with the centurions...

They look so bad...they have lots of guns...They are in armor wearing a suit. OMG.

Like...do you even scifi?

I remember reading a post talking about the Centurions and I thought it was a pretty interesting take. I mean consider that a Marine chapter has at most 1,000 Marines and Scouts plus support and command elements (so maybe 1,200-1,500 at max strength assuming a lot of support elements and excluding the Black Templars who basically have a small Legion running around). Now in practice you likely have around 1,000 in total due to losses to injuries or deaths. And despite this you need to uphold a massive rejoin of space and are often expected to be supporting multiple campaigns at the same time. You also have limited resources in the means of Terminator suits for boarding actions for Space Hulks and enemy vessels. Thus the Centurion was born. By creating an armoured frame that could be mounted into existing armour it can be dropped if damaged to allow the bearer to continue fighting in their regular armour, but when wearing it the bearer is granted the ability to bring more firepower to bear than they could normally manage. Their large size also allows them to better shield the battle brothers behind them in tight spaces like Space Hulk corridors.

I mean, yeah, the look is a bit goofy, but the premise makes a LOT of sense. Limited manpower + limited resources = time to add firepower to existing manpower and use new resources to do it.

the repulsor does represent a shift in doctrine for astartes so realisticly it should look similer but also differant

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
Always with the centurions...

They look so bad...they have lots of guns...They are in armor wearing a suit. OMG.

Like...do you even scifi?

I remember reading a post talking about the Centurions and I thought it was a pretty interesting take. I mean consider that a Marine chapter has at most 1,000 Marines and Scouts plus support and command elements (so maybe 1,200-1,500 at max strength assuming a lot of support elements and excluding the Black Templars who basically have a small Legion running around). Now in practice you likely have around 1,000 in total due to losses to injuries or deaths. And despite this you need to uphold a massive rejoin of space and are often expected to be supporting multiple campaigns at the same time. You also have limited resources in the means of Terminator suits for boarding actions for Space Hulks and enemy vessels. Thus the Centurion was born. By creating an armoured frame that could be mounted into existing armour it can be dropped if damaged to allow the bearer to continue fighting in their regular armour, but when wearing it the bearer is granted the ability to bring more firepower to bear than they could normally manage. Their large size also allows them to better shield the battle brothers behind them in tight spaces like Space Hulk corridors.

I mean, yeah, the look is a bit goofy, but the premise makes a LOT of sense. Limited manpower + limited resources = time to add firepower to existing manpower and use new resources to do it.

That is how I feel. It makes a lot of sense. It's kind of how we used to helidrop artillery to units in need of close support. They don't need a thunderhawk or a stormraven to do that - they can just put 3 of these suits in a drop pod and a tactical unit would have the firepower of 3 predators. It make sense in an army that has limited man power that they would have something like this.

Not to mention when used to clear enemy ships or Space Hulks that's the firepower of three predators in a hallway. That's a LOT of pain for anything trying to get past them.

BTW, the Repulsor kit actually has a bit that seems to be intended to be a hunter-killer missile, yet it cannot take one.

 Crimson wrote:
BTW, the Repulsor kit actually has a bit that seems to be intended to be a hunter-killer missile, yet it cannot take one.

could be they where going to give it the option and changed their mind at the last minute?

I forgot about that bit! That was definitely one of the odder bits about the Repulsor honestly. Why include a bit of wargear if you don't give it rules? Then again they've done that in the past so I shouldn't be too shocked.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
Always with the centurions...

They look so bad...they have lots of guns...They are in armor wearing a suit. OMG.

Like...do you even scifi?

I remember reading a post talking about the Centurions and I thought it was a pretty interesting take. I mean consider that a Marine chapter has at most 1,000 Marines and Scouts plus support and command elements (so maybe 1,200-1,500 at max strength assuming a lot of support elements and excluding the Black Templars who basically have a small Legion running around). Now in practice you likely have around 1,000 in total due to losses to injuries or deaths. And despite this you need to uphold a massive rejoin of space and are often expected to be supporting multiple campaigns at the same time. You also have limited resources in the means of Terminator suits for boarding actions for Space Hulks and enemy vessels. Thus the Centurion was born. By creating an armoured frame that could be mounted into existing armour it can be dropped if damaged to allow the bearer to continue fighting in their regular armour, but when wearing it the bearer is granted the ability to bring more firepower to bear than they could normally manage. Their large size also allows them to better shield the battle brothers behind them in tight spaces like Space Hulk corridors.

I mean, yeah, the look is a bit goofy, but the premise makes a LOT of sense. Limited manpower + limited resources = time to add firepower to existing manpower and use new resources to do it.

Yeah well, back in my day we had Dreadnought armor, and Tactical Dreadnought armor. Harrumph.

And Centurions wouldn't fit in those Space Hulk hallways.

I get what you're saying about the premise though. But man, they look goofy.