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Karol wrote:
If chaos wins vigilus, then wouldn't it just be a copy of what they did at cadia. Would be almost the same story with just names switched.


Not exactly. It would be more like they closed another pathway to Imperial Nihilius thus creating two empires, the Prime Imperium and Imperium Nihilius

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Then BA can be the runner up poster boys since Dante will be big boss of his own half of the Imperium.
   
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Arent all the BA like wiped out, with less then 100 man among all chapters with the BA geneseed?

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Karol wrote:
Arent all the BA like wiped out, with less then 100 man among all chapters with the BA geneseed?

The twisted little monkey marines; yeah. I think your figures are low, pretty sure at least a full company of standard BA were left, excluding successors but I’d have to crack the codex in front of me and read the gak fluff about Ultras and Khorne saving them, and I’d rather not. Plus Guilliman delivered their share of BA Primaris so “ta da; full chapters again with 9 companies of Primaris!”.
   
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Hopefully we get new Abby, new CSM and Havocs at least, actual kits for Chosen and Cultists, new Termies, possessed, Chaos Lord/Sorceror and Zerkers and if we’re really lucky, new Oblits and Mutilators.

Ultra-Ultramarines are a great idea. 
   
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Cptn_Cronssant wrote:
Hopefully we get new Abby, new CSM and Havocs at least, actual kits for Chosen and Cultists, new Termies, possessed, Chaos Lord/Sorceror and Zerkers and if we’re really lucky, new Oblits and Mutilators.

This would go a long way to making CSM look much more modern and appealing. Some of their minisnwere horrendous back in third, and some of them are still around.
   
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Chicago, Illinois

Bremon wrote:
Karol wrote:
Arent all the BA like wiped out, with less then 100 man among all chapters with the BA geneseed?

The twisted little monkey marines; yeah. I think your figures are low, pretty sure at least a full company of standard BA were left, excluding successors but I’d have to crack the codex in front of me and read the gak fluff about Ultras and Khorne saving them, and I’d rather not. Plus Guilliman delivered their share of BA Primaris so “ta da; full chapters again with 9 companies of Primaris!”.


Have you read Devastation of baal?

From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war. 
   
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Just a synopsis basically and going from memory on what the codex had to say about things.
   
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 BrookM wrote:
Vigilus 2 will no doubt be about the full arrival of the Black Legion and the Necrons, the first book mainly deals with the "Beast War" a.k.a. Orks, Genestealer Cults and oh, there are zombies also in this place.

Still working my way through the fluff and while Haarken has rules, I don't recall reading about his exploits during the campaign itself just yet, just that he had arrived and that things would get a whole lot worse for the defenders.


I suspect you're right. I bet in book 2 we'll see the launch of Abby, New Oblits and some other stuff. Necrons and the like.
   
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 Togusa wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
Vigilus 2 will no doubt be about the full arrival of the Black Legion and the Necrons, the first book mainly deals with the "Beast War" a.k.a. Orks, Genestealer Cults and oh, there are zombies also in this place.

Still working my way through the fluff and while Haarken has rules, I don't recall reading about his exploits during the campaign itself just yet, just that he had arrived and that things would get a whole lot worse for the defenders.


I suspect you're right. I bet in book 2 we'll see the launch of Abby, New Oblits and some other stuff. Necrons and the like.


I'll believe it when I see it lol. In all probability there will be a new Lieutenant, but this time with a power fist!

"Courage and Honour. I hear you murmur these words in the mist, in their wake I hear your hearts beat harder with false conviction seeking to convince yourselves that a brave death has meaning.
There is no courage to be found here my nephews, no honour to be had. Your souls will join the trillion others in the mist shrieking uselessly to eternity, weeping for the empire you could not save.

To the unfaithful, I bring holy plagues ripe with enlightenment. To the devout, I bring the blessing of immortality through the kiss of sacred rot.
And to you, new-born sons of Gulliman, to you flesh crafted puppets of a failing Imperium I bring the holiest gift of all.... Silence."
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Give me a Primaris Lt or Captain with a souped up Cawl pattern Thunder Hammer and they might convince me the insane prices they’re charging for characters these days could be possibly justified lol.
   
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Karol wrote:
Arent all the BA like wiped out, with less then 100 man among all chapters with the BA geneseed?


From what I remember the Blood Angels and their successors (even the excommunicated chapter) lost a huge proportion of their marines including all chapter masters except Dante and GabSeth. I never got the impression that they were that there were that many casualties that there were only ~100 marines remaining between all chapters.

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