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Cheexsta wrote:
Pain4Pleasure wrote:
State rules page, references wher eit specifies this exact wording. Any grey area allows for this to happen like it or not. “But but it’s intended this way” we’ll that sucks, if raw allows it raw beats rai EVERYTIME.

Battle Primer, p13; "Modifying Characteristics" sidebar:

You may also encounter
abilities and rules that
modify a characteristic. All
modifiers are cumulative,
though you should
apply any multiplication
or division to the
characteristic (rounding
fractions up) before
applying any addition
or subtraction.

That's about as unambiguous as you can possibly get.

Ok, you got me convinced. Its not 7", its 9".