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Personally, i would rather have a large csm codex with more worked out subfactions. But your solution also works.
Edit: Infact a lot of factions got gutted in the Wargear options: Ard'boyz f.e., Chaos marks, etc. Instead we now got a minidex for ever little unnecessary blip which allows gw to sell more books.
To be fair, assuming good internal balance, I'm actually excited for EC and WE players because I like how DG and TS were handled as individual armies.
Meanwhile, even though there are clearly differences in combat approach, the core Legions I talked about are more organized similarly, which is why I feel a focused approach on them as a singular codex leads to better internal + external balance. Also just assume I have various ideas on how to fix the more meh units.
I can't stand the TS and DG dexes. and we saw how "balanced" they turned out. And the regular CSM dex is now just a husk of it's former self and people now need to buy more books to get to play a faction.
I see your point, but i am also kinda fed up with the minidexes.
Also comparing AL to WB and the rest of the core legions f.e. is completely nonsensical. AL has a complete other doctrine F.e. and key feature, was not thrown back into the warp.
I'm more referring to internal organization but I understand your point.
Also I do promise I have various ideas for DG and Thousand Sons for internal + external balance. That's why I said "assuming internal + external balance" I like the organization for the codices. It isn't everyone's cup of tea though.
Fair enough, that said AL is even in it's internal organization so diffrent that i quesion if it would be a good idea to mix them in with the regular CSM's.
It's...kinda close at least?
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
Personally, i would rather have a large csm codex with more worked out subfactions. But your solution also works.
Edit: Infact a lot of factions got gutted in the Wargear options: Ard'boyz f.e., Chaos marks, etc. Instead we now got a minidex for ever little unnecessary blip which allows gw to sell more books.
To be fair, assuming good internal balance, I'm actually excited for EC and WE players because I like how DG and TS were handled as individual armies.
Meanwhile, even though there are clearly differences in combat approach, the core Legions I talked about are more organized similarly, which is why I feel a focused approach on them as a singular codex leads to better internal + external balance. Also just assume I have various ideas on how to fix the more meh units.
I can't stand the TS and DG dexes. and we saw how "balanced" they turned out. And the regular CSM dex is now just a husk of it's former self and people now need to buy more books to get to play a faction.
I see your point, but i am also kinda fed up with the minidexes.
Also comparing AL to WB and the rest of the core legions f.e. is completely nonsensical. AL has a complete other doctrine F.e. and key feature, was not thrown back into the warp.
I'm more referring to internal organization but I understand your point.
Also I do promise I have various ideas for DG and Thousand Sons for internal + external balance. That's why I said "assuming internal + external balance" I like the organization for the codices. It isn't everyone's cup of tea though.
Fair enough, that said AL is even in it's internal organization so diffrent that i quesion if it would be a good idea to mix them in with the regular CSM's.
It's...kinda close at least?
Nope, decentral organisation goes directly against IW,WB, BL structure.
focus on desinformation vs specific warfare.
All AL marines can fullfill any role, from Terminator to Havoc, to jump marine. Additionally only 1000-2000 of the dudes existed at the start, that said it seems that their decentralization and vast use of Agents comensates their numbers aswelll as the fact they seem to be somewhat capable of refilling their ranks somehow.
as for their operation style after the heresey:
Even less is known about the internal organisation of the Alpha Legion since the Heresy than was known before. On occasions there have been successful assassinations of members of the Legion thought to be high-ranking officers, but their removal has had little visible effect on Alpha Legion operations.[1a] It is believed that since the Heresy the Alpha Legion operates as independent cells hidden throughout the Imperium, coordinating various Cultist activity to subvert Imperial rule. While these cells operate independently of one another and destroying one will not effect the effort of their overall mission, the Legion still loosely coordinates its actions across the Galaxy. Who is coordinating these efforts and how they are doing so is largely a mystery to the Imperium, but many believe they achieve this through "Operatives". These figures are apparently human, but have undergone limited psycho-hypnotic therapy to make them absolutely loyal to the Legion. These operatives, fully infiltrated into Imperial society, act as the link between Alpha Legion cells and Cultists, and are their primary method of galaxy-wide communication.[1b]
The Legion's symbol, the hydra, is a multi-headed mythical beast which could keep fighting even if one of its heads was cut off. This legend seems to reflect the Alpha Legion's command structure, as well as echoing its doctrine of multiple attacks.[1a]
Alpharius believed in planning and co-ordination, he always sought alternatives and multiple solutions to any given problem, with different elements working together for the end result. These doctrines, thoroughly embraced by the Legion as a whole, have apparently been continued by the traitors and have proved effective, especially in the disparate and secretive way they now operate.[1a]
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Honestly the fact that CSM armies don't have Vet stats minimum is stupid, which is why I'm for removing the basic Chaos Marine entry entirely and moving Chosen there. Then we give Vet stats to everyone and see if things are priced accordingly right after.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
