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You use the most up to date rules. The index entry for a Chaos Lord on a bike states "This model may replace its bolt pistol with one item from the Pistols, Combi-weapons or Melee Weapons lists."
The most updated version of those lists are now found in the Codex: Chaos Space Marines, so you have whatever options are listed there.
The problem with this statement is that by that definition you never get to use the index weapon list, which might be the only list that has the weapons options that your older model has on it. As the entire flowchart was made for you to be able to play older models, including models with older weapon options, it wouldn't make sense to be forced to use the most recent weapons table when it's the older weapons table that gives you the options you need for the model. That suggests that you can't assert that the weapons tables are rules that they're referring to in their statement about using the most recent version.
You can use the index weapon list if there is a weapon on it that is not in the codex. But that is the only time you get to use it.
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You use the most up to date rules. The index entry for a Chaos Lord on a bike states "This model may replace its bolt pistol with one item from the Pistols, Combi-weapons or Melee Weapons lists."
The most updated version of those lists are now found in the Codex: Chaos Space Marines, so you have whatever options are listed there.
The problem with this statement is that by that definition you never get to use the index weapon list, which might be the only list that has the weapons options that your older model has on it. As the entire flowchart was made for you to be able to play older models, including models with older weapon options, it wouldn't make sense to be forced to use the most recent weapons table when it's the older weapons table that gives you the options you need for the model. That suggests that you can't assert that the weapons tables are rules that they're referring to in their statement about using the most recent version.
You can use the index weapon list if there is a weapon on it that is not in the codex. But that is the only time you get to use it.
This contradicts the flowchart as I read it. If the model in question is not in the codex, you use the index datasheet. The index weapon list is an extension of that datasheet. It has to be, otherwise the other half of the flowchart does not work:
"Are there wargear options for your model that only appear in the index version of its datasheet? -> Yes -> Use the codex version of your model's datasheet, but you can choose to use the index version for its wargear options."
So, if it worked as you're interpreting it, for those wargear options you would have to reference back to the index datasheet which would then reference you back to the up to date codex weapons list, in which the wargear no longer appears. It wouldn't work and you could never pick the weapon. Clearly that isn't the intent. The list itself is an extension of the datasheet. If the model is not in the codex (chaos lord on bike) you have to use the index datasheet, and by extension the index weapons options it references.
As an aside it really shouldn't be this confusing. IMHOGW should either make the codex comprehensive enough to include all models and wargear from the index or disallow them completely.
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Orbei wrote: This contradicts the flowchart as I read it. If the model in question is not in the codex, you use the index datasheet. The index weapon list is an extension of that datasheet. It has to be, otherwise the other half of the flowchart does not work:
"Are there wargear options for your model that only appear in the index version of its datasheet? -> Yes -> Use the codex version of your model's datasheet, but you can choose to use the index version for its wargear options."
So, if it worked as you're interpreting it, for those wargear options you would have to reference back to the index datasheet which would then reference you back to the up to date codex weapons list, in which the wargear no longer appears. It wouldn't work and you could never pick the weapon. Clearly that isn't the intent. The list itself is an extension of the datasheet. If the model is not in the codex (chaos lord on bike) you have to use the index datasheet, and by extension the index weapons options it references.
As an aside it really shouldn't be this confusing. IMHOGW should either make the codex comprehensive enough to include all models and wargear from the index or disallow them completely.
You need to use the most recent rules. For weapons lists that is in the codex (unless you are taking an index option that is not in the codex weapon list, then you use the index) same goes for Psychic powers. You use the codex version of the Librarius Discipline and not the inxed version.
Spoiler:
"Can I choose to use the rules and/or points for units from my index instead of the new ones in the codex once released?
In your own games, if you and your opponent agree, you can, of course, play with whatever rules you like.
In all future publications and official events though, it will be assumed that you’re using the most recent rules and Datasheets. It will also be assumed that you’re using the most up to date points for matched play, in this case, those included in the codex."
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You need to use the most recent rules. For weapons lists that is in the codex (unless you are taking an index option that is not in the codex weapon list, then you use the index) same goes for Psychic powers. You use the codex version of the Librarius Discipline and not the inxed version.
The data table for the weapons in the codex or index aren't the rules for the weapons. The rules for the weapons are the rules that are given in the table of weapons where its statistics are listed. The list of melee weapons that is referred to is not the rules for the weapons. I'll side with Orbei on the table being an extension of the datasheet.
The problem with what you are saying is that you don't have both the requirement to use the codex table and also take items off the index table. The flowchart has you using the weapons options on the index datasheet. This index refers you to the list of melee weapons elsewhere in the book. Nowhere in the flowchart does it specifically state that you must use the codex list of weapons except for weapons not listed there. If we go by what you are saying we have to use the codex list for the list of weapons, not the index list. You don't have permission to use the index list by your statement as it isn't the current set of rules.
The comments about current rules and points for weapons are for the rules for the weapons themselves and their point costs, not a list of weapons that can be chosen, which is an extension of the datasheet itself.
You need to use the most recent rules. For weapons lists that is in the codex (unless you are taking an index option that is not in the codex weapon list, then you use the index) same goes for Psychic powers. You use the codex version of the Librarius Discipline and not the inxed version.
The data table for the weapons in the codex or index aren't the rules for the weapons.
But they are the rules for what weapons a certain datasheet gets to use...
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You need to use the most recent rules. For weapons lists that is in the codex (unless you are taking an index option that is not in the codex weapon list, then you use the index) same goes for Psychic powers. You use the codex version of the Librarius Discipline and not the inxed version.
The data table for the weapons in the codex or index aren't the rules for the weapons.
But they are the rules for what weapons a certain datasheet gets to use...
If you want to play it that way, then you never get to refer to the index list for weapons, as you must use the most recent rules and by your definition the list is a set of rules. The statement made no exception for items on the index list that aren't on the codex list. Therefore, by your definition, you never get to use the index list or get to those index weapons. It seems that your assertion is a bit off for rules that are supposed to let you use models with old weapons...
Exactly.. note how the flow chart only references datasheets. It gives you permission to use an index datasheet when appropriate, but never specifically the index list. So if the codex list replaces it for index datasheets, index wargear is never valid.
Can an autarch have a reaper launcher? Yes. Why? The flow chart tells you to use the index datasheet for an option not in the codex. But it's not on the index datasheet, it's listed in the index autarch weapons list. Because that is the list that corresponds to the index datasheet.
DeathReaper wrote: You use the most up to date rules. The index entry for a Chaos Lord on a bike states "This model may replace its bolt pistol with one item from the Pistols, Combi-weapons or Melee Weapons lists."
The most updated version of those lists are now found in the Codex: Chaos Space Marines, so you have whatever options are listed there.
"Any model may replace his Nemesis force sword with an item from the Melee Weapons list."
So Grey Knight Terminators may not take any nemesis force weapons, but can trade their swords for Chainaxes, Thunder Hammers or Pairs of Lightning Claws.
Yes or no?
Are the rules for Grey Knight Terminators part of the rules for the Chaos Space Marines faction?
There is no rule limiting that in any way. Either you use tables from other books or you don't.
You use the most up to date rules. The index entry for a Chaos Lord on a bike states "This model may replace its bolt pistol with one item from the Pistols, Combi-weapons or Melee Weapons lists."
The most updated version of those lists are now found in the Codex: Chaos Space Marines, so you have whatever options are listed there.
The problem with this statement is that by that definition you never get to use the index weapon list, which might be the only list that has the weapons options that your older model has on it. As the entire flowchart was made for you to be able to play older models, including models with older weapon options, it wouldn't make sense to be forced to use the most recent weapons table when it's the older weapons table that gives you the options you need for the model. That suggests that you can't assert that the weapons tables are rules that they're referring to in their statement about using the most recent version.
You can use the index weapon list if there is a weapon on it that is not in the codex. But that is the only time you get to use it.
You failed to provide proof for that. You also have not answered the question considering Grey Knights. Either all models must use the most current Melee Weapon list, or all models use the one provided in the same book as them. There is no cherry-picking.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
How about we get away from ridiculous arguments made for arguments sake and go back to the basics. The FAQ Flowchart allows you to use the Index Wargear options to select wargear for a model if the option is not allowed in the Codex. As an example, they bring up an Astra Militarum Commissar armed with a Power Axe. The Power Axe is not in the Codex Melee Weapon List, but is in the AM Index Melee Weapon List, allowing you to take that action.
The argument that you have to replace the AM Index Melee Weapon with the list from Codex Astra Militarum is therefore verifiable wrong. If it was true, the very example used to explain how to use the Index to get wargear options doesn't work.
In closing, Chaos Lords on Bikes can't take Thunder Hammers because they are not on the CSM Wargear list in the Index, the source of the current data sheet for the model.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
Why all the arguing? The flowchart explicitly states that if your model doesn't have a datasheet in the codex you use the index entry.
A Chaos Lord on Bike does not have an entry in the codex, so you use the Index entry. For all intents and purposes the rules in the codex do not exist for the Index unit barring points costs for wargear.
BaconCatBug wrote: Why all the arguing? The flowchart explicitly states that if your model doesn't have a datasheet in the codex you use the index entry.
A Chaos Lord on Bike does not have an entry in the codex, so you use the Index entry. For all intents and purposes the rules in the codex do not exist for the Index unit barring points costs for wargear.
And rules for wargear, and special rules, and psychic powers...
BaconCatBug wrote: Why all the arguing? The flowchart explicitly states that if your model doesn't have a datasheet in the codex you use the index entry.
A Chaos Lord on Bike does not have an entry in the codex, so you use the Index entry. For all intents and purposes the rules in the codex do not exist for the Index unit barring points costs for wargear.
And rules for wargear, and special rules, and psychic powers...
Sorry, what? Where does it say that. It says Codex datasheets have access to Index Wargear Options (and nothing else). Index Datasheets have no access to anything in the codex. It's why Librarians on Bikes are locked to the Index power set.
BaconCatBug wrote: Why all the arguing? The flowchart explicitly states that if your model doesn't have a datasheet in the codex you use the index entry.
A Chaos Lord on Bike does not have an entry in the codex, so you use the Index entry. For all intents and purposes the rules in the codex do not exist for the Index unit barring points costs for wargear.
And rules for wargear, and special rules, and psychic powers...
Sorry, what? Where does it say that. It says Codex datasheets have access to Index Wargear Options (and nothing else). Index Datasheets have no access to anything in the codex. It's why Librarians on Bikes are locked to the Index power set.
That is not at all true.
Librarians on Bikes are not locked to the Index power set.
Space Marine Librarians use the Librarius discipline. The most up to date rules for the Librarius discipline are in the codex Astartes, so they would use the most up to date rules, just like anyone else.
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Librarians on Bikes are not locked to the Index power set.
Space Marine Librarians use the Librarius discipline. The most up to date rules for the Librarius discipline are in the codex Astartes, so they would use the most up to date rules, just like anyone else.
Again, can you show me where it says that? The only options you're permitted to use are the index options. Index entries cannot use codex rules.
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm genuinely wondering if I have missed something here. The most up to date rules for Librarian on Bike is Index: Imperium 1.
Librarians on Bikes are not locked to the Index power set.
Space Marine Librarians use the Librarius discipline. The most up to date rules for the Librarius discipline are in the codex Astartes, so they would use the most up to date rules, just like anyone else.
Again, can you show me where it says that? The only options you're permitted to use are the index options. Index entries cannot use codex rules.
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm genuinely wondering if I have missed something here. The most up to date rules for Librarian on Bike is Index: Imperium 1.
For once, I agree with BCB.
The language in the flow chart that is commonly cited comes at the end of a decision tree. It explicitly references models with datasheets appearing in the Codex, not models that only appear in the index.
At best, this is a gray area and GW should clarify whether Index entries can use Codex wargear lists.
Librarians on Bikes are not locked to the Index power set.
Space Marine Librarians use the Librarius discipline. The most up to date rules for the Librarius discipline are in the codex Astartes, so they would use the most up to date rules, just like anyone else.
Again, can you show me where it says that? The only options you're permitted to use are the index options. Index entries cannot use codex rules.
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm genuinely wondering if I have missed something here. The most up to date rules for Librarian on Bike is Index: Imperium 1.
For once, I agree with BCB.
The language in the flow chart that is commonly cited comes at the end of a decision tree. It explicitly references models with datasheets appearing in the Codex, not models that only appear in the index.
At best, this is a gray area and GW should clarify whether Index entries can use Codex wargear lists.
Yup, we can't get to clear answer just on RAW here. Add to the "check with your opponent/TO" list!
Librarians on Bikes are not locked to the Index power set.
Space Marine Librarians use the Librarius discipline. The most up to date rules for the Librarius discipline are in the codex Astartes, so they would use the most up to date rules, just like anyone else.
Again, can you show me where it says that? The only options you're permitted to use are the index options. Index entries cannot use codex rules.
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm genuinely wondering if I have missed something here. The most up to date rules for Librarian on Bike is Index: Imperium 1.
Yes. "it will be assumed that you’re using the most recent rules and Datasheets"
From:
"Can I choose to use the rules and/or points for units from my index instead of the new ones in the codex once released?
In your own games, if you and your opponent agree, you can, of course, play with whatever rules you like.
In all future publications and official events though, it will be assumed that you’re using the most recent rules and Datasheets. It will also be assumed that you’re using the most up to date points for matched play, in this case, those included in the codex."
The most up to date rules for Librarian on Bike is Index: Imperium 1. but the most up to date rules for the Librarius Discipline is in Codex Astartes.
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Haha one post back and there’s an argument. Epic work.
The new Librarius discipline effectively overwrites the Index one. So Index units can use Codex psychic powers no sweat. But we’ve been over this in several other threads and it’s a drum certain people like to beat. Let them do them.
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Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
JohnnyHell wrote: Haha one post back and there’s an argument. Epic work.
The new Librarius discipline effectively overwrites the Index one. So Index units can use Codex psychic powers no sweat. But we’ve been over this in several other threads and it’s a drum certain people like to beat. Let them do them.
So we can assume that equipment lists also get overwritten?
Because that is not nearly as close cut what with dropped equipment, see E.g. Of the Aeldari autarch guns somewhere allready.
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DeathReaper wrote: The most up to date rules for Librarian on Bike is Index: Imperium 1. but the most up to date rules for the Librarius Discipline is in Codex Astartes.
The rules for Librarian on Bike explicitly reference a page number. Unless another rule overrides that, my personal opinion is that I am going to stick with following what the datasheet says. Please don't take this as some form of attack.
The most up to date rules for Librarian on Bike is Index: Imperium 1, so you follow those rules. I agree it's not clear, but I don't agree that we can just assume something beneficial when there is zero basis to do so.
JohnnyHell wrote: Haha one post back and there’s an argument. Epic work.
The new Librarius discipline effectively overwrites the Index one. So Index units can use Codex psychic powers no sweat. But we’ve been over this in several other threads and it’s a drum certain people like to beat. Let them do them.
So we can assume that equipment lists also get overwritten? Because that is not nearly as close cut what with dropped equipment, see E.g. Of the Aeldari autarch guns somewhere allready.
Exactly. We can't just assume that because we get to use A we also get to use B, especially when it's not even clear we can use A to begin with.
The Flowchart is explicit, you only get codex options if the datasheet is in the codex. Librarian on Bike does not have a model in the codex, so you cannot use the codex rules. We've been given wishy-washy instructions regarding equipment profiles and points costs, but nothing about psychic powers or codex equipment options.
And ultimately, the Battlescribe dudes needs to pick an interpretation. I assume they use the interpretation that requires the fewest assumptions, Occam Razor style.
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JohnnyHell wrote: Haha one post back and there’s an argument. Epic work.
The new Librarius discipline effectively overwrites the Index one. So Index units can use Codex psychic powers no sweat. But we’ve been over this in several other threads and it’s a drum certain people like to beat. Let them do them.
So we can assume that equipment lists also get overwritten?
Because that is not nearly as close cut what with dropped equipment, see E.g. Of the Aeldari autarch guns somewhere allready.
I don’t think so. The old lists must remain as options for a Index models, or you couldn’t choose their options. So they can’t be overwritten - they remain as discrete options via the Flowchart, and that’s why I don’t think you can have a Bikelord with TH. The new Pyschic Power lists contain all the Index ones and revise/expand upon them, so no options are missing. WHC articles (BUT YHEY ARENT ROOOLZZZ aside) allowed use of Index units with Codex powers pre-DW Codex, so we even know the intent on this occasion (put a sock in the BUT WE CANNOT KNOW INTENNTTZTT chaps, we have it spelt out).
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
DeathReaper wrote: The most up to date rules for Librarian on Bike is Index: Imperium 1. but the most up to date rules for the Librarius Discipline is in Codex Astartes.
The rules for Librarian on Bike explicitly reference a page number. Unless another rule overrides that, my personal opinion is that I am going to stick with following what the datasheet says. Please don't take this as some form of attack.
The most up to date rules for Librarian on Bike is Index: Imperium 1, so you follow those rules. I agree it's not clear, but I don't agree that we can just assume something beneficial when there is zero basis to do so.
Page number does not matter and yes another rule overrides that (the one about using the most recent rules). The newest rules for the Librarius Discipline are no longer on the page referenced. They are in in Codex Astartes.
You use them because "it will be assumed that you’re using the most recent rules and Datasheets"
The most recent rules for the Librarius Discipline is not in the index. That Librarius Discipline in the index is not longer valid.
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At this point you are making up rules to fit your argument, with no backing whatsoever.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
At this point you are making up rules to fit your argument, with no backing whatsoever.
I literally quoted what says "it will be assumed that you’re using the most recent rules and Datasheets"
I gave reference where to find this in a previous post.
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At this point you are making up rules to fit your argument, with no backing whatsoever.
I literally quoted what says "it will be assumed that you’re using the most recent rules and Datasheets"
I gave reference where to find this in a previous post.
You failed to quote the part where you get to cherry-pick rules from different books. You failed to quote where a war gear list of one book replaces the wargear list from another book, while multiple people provided counter-examples.
There even is a counter-example to your psychic powers example - the daemon codex has the dark hereticus dicipline inside and it clear didn't replace the dark hereticus discipline despite being newer, because otherwise CSM would have lost access to multiple powers.
So for all intents and purposes, the newest rules for a datasheet from an index are the rules referenced in that datasheet unless they have been replaced by an errata.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
Except for Wargear. You always us the most recent version of the wargear rules and points for your army. So your Index data sheet still uses Codex rules and points for wargear.
alextroy wrote: Except for Wargear. You always us the most recent version of the wargear rules and points for your army. So your Index data sheet still uses Codex rules and points for wargear.
Yes, although it doesn't say whether that means the wargear itself or the wargear table too. So it's somewhat open to interpretation on that part.
BaconCatBug wrote: And the most recent datasheet for a Chaos Lord on Bike is...?
And the most recent rules for the Librarius Discipline is?
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