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2019/09/25 16:05:52
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
Moscha wrote: I started playing in 5th edition, but I was only starting to build a small army when 6th edition got released.
I also liked the Card system in magic, it was a lot of fun.
But the Herohammer aspect can't be denied.
In order to get to 2000 points, I used every upgrade I could get.
I had some 20 Orc grunts, 20 Plastic Goblins, 10 Orc archers, Grom on Chariot, a rocklobber, and a Wizard Level 4 in my first game Oh and 9 badly painted Wolf riders taken from the Claymore-Saga box.
But hey, no problem, just give the unit champion of the Orcs a 125 points weapon (Axe of Morglor or so I recall). Utterly useless, but hey, there are points in the units slot to be filled
Filling out on magic items was always a way of equalising armies when collections are mismatched, it still is. However 5th didnt punish you for it. From 6th onwards if you do this you will have a gimped army.
I never had the impression that 6th edition was a money grab. No, it was well thought over. The only things that I felt 5th edition did better (and 8th), was using a percentage of points system rather than a slot system. The higher availability of generic magic items in 5th was also more fun (but inevitably impossible to balance).
The slot system of 6th and 7th with Lords Heroes, Core, Special and Rare slots was a nice idea to force people to take at least some center elements the armies should consist of. But 8th did better with adding a point cost to these categories.
I do agree but did consider the simpler slot based system more flexible, though easier to abuse on a macro scale.
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2019/09/25 16:33:54
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
Amai wrote: Camon man, beastmens were 10 point with haöberds and theh had 2wounds each.
And Swordmasters could smack arrows out of the air. Just because some OP thing happened back then doesn't make it good. It's like the argument in favor of the Chaos Space Marines 3.5 codex. That thing was skewed beyond belief and churned out rather OP armies uniformly, but Chaos players swear that was the best book and that they need to return to the glory of that book in modern 40K.
3.5 Chaos was that edition's 8th Space Marine 2.0. brilliantly flavourful giving thematic and powerful rules to all it's sub factions (obviously a couple stood atop the pile and bent the game)
Sadly it was the fact they are outliers that is the problem. I'd love to play an edition where they gave every faction this much love.
On topic my favourite fantasy era was 7th with 6th army books.
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2019/09/26 07:14:56
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
Eldarain wrote: 3.5 Chaos was that edition's 8th Space Marine 2.0. brilliantly flavourful giving thematic and powerful rules to all it's sub factions (obviously a couple stood atop the pile and bent the game).
Flavorful, I'm down with. Thematic rules, I'm all about. Powerful is what the issue was. It was more along the lines of "What does EVERY other army have that Chaos doesn't? Okay, we make those for Chaos, but BETTER!!!!!!!!!!" Bloodletters come to mind immediately in that department, as did Slaaneshi gifts. I ran Iron Warriors when this thing hit, and the book made me guilty enough that I shelved the army.
Eldarain wrote: Sadly it was the fact they are outliers that is the problem. I'd love to play an edition where they gave every faction this much love.
It was the lack of balance that was the issue. That book wouldn't have stood out so much if it wasn't for the OP nature of the book. CSM armies of that era didn't lose all that much, and that's about as much of an indictment as you can get. That, and when you start seeing no variety in builds you realize there's a problem.
Eldarain wrote: On topic my favourite fantasy era was 7th with 6th army books.
I'm what should be the ideal GW customer. I want to literally love everything they put out. 7th was my first experience where that wasn't so. Half the rule changes were good, and house rules in our games of 6th. Other rules changes worked to the detriment of the game, and that's BEFORE we get into the Army Book issues. 8th was a non-starter for me as the edition's core rules were written to try to make the game tenable with the laughable state of balance between Army Books, then proceeded to double down on the same issues the previous books had so as to push past what the core rules were trying to realign.
I wanted to like both, I really did, but somewhere along the line I decided I wouldn't settle anymore.
Moscha wrote: But the Herohammer aspect can't be denied.
While I whole-heartedly acknowledge and agree with you guys about the Herohammer factor, I have to say that that aspect of 5th never reared it's ugly head with us. I played exclusively with friends, both close and fairly close, and we never played with a competitive "win-at-all-cost" mentality.
auticus wrote: I t was more like D&D, where you had the super powered heroes backed by a handful of cheerleading troops.
That's an interesting perspective. As I said above, the op heroes were never an issue. Nobody used Lords on dragons (too many points) and nobody was "beardy" (to use the vernacular of the day) enough to build them that way. I completely disagree with your opinion, but I can see where one may feel that way.
Additionally, we played 3,000 points, so that meant lots of troops, not small bodyguard forces with huge heroes.
Orlanth wrote: 5th was very random and heavily favoured chaos.
As a Chaos player, I whole-heartedly disagree. Chaos armor saves were crazy good, but every army had great caveats. Brettonians and their wedge formations were awesome. Night Goblin units and their Fanatics. High Elf archers shooting in 2 ranks and spears fighting in 3 ranks. Overlapping fire zones of Dwarf Blunderbuss blocks. Undead Wizards pooping out skeletons into combat.
If anything was op, it was the Wood Elf Citadel Journal list. Absolutely crazy.
If you're playing pickup games with randoms - which I highly doubt - then 5th may not be right. If your peeps play fairly competitively, 5th may also not be good. But, with easygoing friends playing just for fun, I think the 5th ed's uniqueness far outweighs the (basically) only complaint that is "Herohammer."
Especially considering how cheap the rules buy-in is. If for nothing else than experiencing it, Winds of Magic is worth the price of admission on its own, in my opinion.
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Amai wrote: Camon man, beastmens were 10 point with haöberds and theh had 2wounds each.
I don't get your point. In 5th, they were 10 pts and 2 wounds. That is correct.
As the pre-release for 6th ed, Ravening Horde's Beastmen list dropped Gors to 5 pts and 1 wound. That meant that my 15-strong Gor units now had to be 30-strong to be the same. With Gors making up the bulk of the Beastmen army, that's a HUGE change and a significant $$ drop to maintain the same army.
Hence the beginning of the "GW is a minis company, rather than a game company" that grew over the next two decades.
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Is it me or did the lore change fom 6th to 7th for HE in that they are no longer immortal ? Amongst a lot of other subtle retcons..? I'm flicking through the books when I have some time (unfortunately pretty sparse)
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AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
Argive wrote: Is it me or did the lore change fom 6th to 7th for HE in that they are no longer immortal ? Amongst a lot of other subtle retcons..?
I'm flicking through the books when I have some time (unfortunately pretty sparse)
I don't care for the fluff and always found the stories dry and predictable. Since I didn't read it much, Ibwas never bothered by the fact that fluff changed between editions.
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2019/09/30 05:59:13
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
Argive wrote: Is it me or did the lore change fom 6th to 7th for HE in that they are no longer immortal ? Amongst a lot of other subtle retcons..?
I'm flicking through the books when I have some time (unfortunately pretty sparse)
In 5th it listed one of the Phoenix Kings dying in his sleep during an era of peace, so I'd say they were never totally immortal, just functionally so with aging and whatnot.
GW is unclear on this, but Alith Anar is still alive in the End Times. His case might be unusual, as he is of roughly the same age of Hellebron. I think the Blood Cauldron ages the user also.
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2019/09/30 14:58:37
Subject: Which edition is bets edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
Just Tony wrote: Another thing that got erased by 7th was the Dark Elf character that died fighting Tyrion at Griffon Gate, I believe. Captain of the Black Guard or whatnot. Totally erased.
Urian Poisonblade, personal champion of the Witch King.
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Orlanth wrote: I think the Phoenix Crown ages the wearer.
GW is unclear on this, but Alith Anar is still alive in the End Times. His case might be unusual, as he is of roughly the same age of Hellebron. I think the Blood Cauldron ages the user also.
The cauldron of blood can keep the user in their youth indefinitely, if used correctly.
The only person who knows how, however, is Morathi and she doesn't share. Everyone else uses an incomplete method of regeneration and so suffers from reverting to their true age.
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2019/09/30 20:10:02
Subject: Which edition is bets edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
Just Tony wrote: Another thing that got erased by 7th was the Dark Elf character that died fighting Tyrion at Griffon Gate, I believe. Captain of the Black Guard or whatnot. Totally erased.
Urian Poisonblade, personal champion of the Witch King.
He wasn't erased, except by Tyrion. Different flavour stories were included in different army books. Urian Poisonblade was never a special character, the assassin special character is and always was Shadowblade. There was no need to replicate old flavour text, his duel with Tyrion was canon though.
Orlanth wrote: I think the Phoenix Crown ages the wearer.
GW is unclear on this, but Alith Anar is still alive in the End Times. His case might be unusual, as he is of roughly the same age of Hellebron. I think the Blood Cauldron ages the user also.
The cauldron of blood can keep the user in their youth indefinitely, if used correctly.
The only person who knows how, however, is Morathi and she doesn't share. Everyone else uses an incomplete method of regeneration and so suffers from reverting to their true age.
Possibly. There is a lack of consistency in the books though. GW didnt think everything through. In one of the army books there was an old elf who reminisced in the current age about all the phoenix kings since Bel Shannar to younger elves. He may have been old, but I don't think he was decrepit. How at this time Alith Anar was a figure from the past, though still a listed special character. This is not unusual as Gorbad and Grom were both listed as 'historical' special characters. However we found out Alith Anar was not dead, and as he is far from the first elf to have lived through the ages we can summise that elves can live very long time. Hellebron however definitely is decrepit when not rejuvenated by the cauldron. the fluff tells us so.
I do not think Hellebron reverts to true age as such, I think that both the cauldron restores a youth beyond the near perpetual youth elves tend to have, but also ages them visibly like humans after prolonged abuse. I think Hellebron is more like a druchii 'faces of meth' rather than just a senior elf.
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2019/10/18 03:42:10
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
I really like 6th, enough to build almost a 10,000 point (or more) army of each army including DoW. For 6th High Elves, Some Silver Helms for sure, they're pretty powerful all kitted out. My list is mainly cavalry, magic and shooting though
I fell in love with 6th HE book and now after all these years reading it again it makes me fall in love with whfb all over again. Alrrady got me an imrik kit all nib waiting for his turn eventualy.
AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
Though I have since had far 'better' and bigger dragons, this dragon which overstretches a chariot base was big for its day and has lots of character.
It once was my big High Elf dragon, now its a Sun Dragon! In fact that helps because my current Star Dragon is this:
The above dragon is great for a Star dragon, and fits on a 100x150 very nicely.
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2019/10/21 20:00:28
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
I respect a man that knows his citadel dragons...
Im slowly growing my collection. So far have the 6th ed imrik and a warmasters dragonrider i snagged in a bundle.
The one i want the most is the Dogs of war dragon lord model and the forest dragons. From the modern ones.
After that its the various baby hatchling models etc.
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AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
I have the Emperor dragon kit, a large dragon model when dragon miniatures were not large. Its not as big as the Citadel Imperial Dragon 'chicken dragon' so called because of its size, it was second in line as the biggest dragon GW (or for that matter any other metal miniatures of the 80's).
I never built it, its still in its original box.
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2019/10/22 23:28:44
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
It lists all the various dragons in a chronological order. I am going to collect them all hopefully one day. Some you can pick up for cheap on ebay and they can be in very sorry state so its also a salvage element. I absolutely love the various whacky 80s models and designs. The warmasters series has a small range of only 5 models so I'm doing that line first. Hunted down the first already
Back in the day when I first got into WHFB circa 6th ed you could get the DRAG7 Dragon Masters model on GW bits order. I bought that and a generic dragon prince rider plus imriks lance to kit bash make my own budget dragon lord. Really regret selling it for beer money. Was my first proper kitbash project. Incidentally years later they released the newest dragon lord kit which looks exactly like that dragon and the look I was going for lol.
I fear I may never find Dogs of War Asarnil the Dragonlord kit though :(
AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
It lists all the various dragons in a chronological order. I am going to collect them all hopefully one day. Some you can pick up for cheap on ebay and they can be in very sorry state so its also a salvage element. I absolutely love the various whacky 80s models and designs. The warmasters series has a small range of only 5 models so I'm doing that line first. Hunted down the first already
Unless you have a major headway already may I recommend you don't try that. You wont get a chicken dragon without paying stupid money, and as it was old lead it would fall apart under its own weight anyway. Yes the designers thought of that and have pinning instructions and ways around the problems, it wasn't badly designed, but it did have bad metallurgy. Most GW stuff from the early 80's is now falling apart or very solid to begin with and many of the old models were not solid.
Back in the day when I first got into WHFB circa 6th ed you could get the DRAG7 Dragon Masters model on GW bits order. I bought that and a generic dragon prince rider plus imriks lance to kit bash make my own budget dragon lord. Really regret selling it for beer money. Was my first proper kitbash project. Incidentally years later they released the newest dragon lord kit which looks exactly like that dragon and the look I was going for lol.
So many people asked about the Dragon Masters kit that GW knew they could do the HE plastic dragon only one way. I never bought either kit, and now its too late to buy either.
I fear I may never find Dogs of War Asarnil the Dragonlord kit though :(
Have you ever seen it? Frankly it was not that impressive. If you have a nostalgia draw to the model so be it, but you could let that one slide.
This is where I am getting my next generation big dragons.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blightmoor/the-catastrophes-of-blightmoor The campaign was recent so I do not think its too late to late back now. We dont know all the sculpts yet, I could only afford to order one, if the others don't fit my taste better the black dragon already showcased will.
Free beholder is nice too, one of the better beholder sculpts seen.
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Just Tony wrote: The Asarnil kit is one of my favorites, that old plastic Talisman dragon is my go to dragon for all my armies.
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Ok, thats +1 to Asarnil.
I do agree with the Talisman dragon, it is nice, however that set costs something like £200-£300 when it surfaces.
I reminds me a lot of the dragon from Dark World expansion Dragon's Gate, which I do have, somewhere.
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2019/10/23 22:47:24
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
Just Tony wrote: The Asarnil kit is one of my favorites, that old plastic Talisman dragon is my go to dragon for all my armies.
Ok, thats +1 to Asarnil.
I do agree with the Talisman dragon, it is nice, however that set costs something like £200-£300 when it surfaces.
If you keep looking you can sometimes find them for a decent price. Over the summer I snagged a Talisman dragon for only $15 on Ebay and that includes shipping. He already had the saddle glued on but otherwise was just primed, so I don't mind.
It's time to go full Skeletor
2019/10/23 23:09:12
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
It lists all the various dragons in a chronological order. I am going to collect them all hopefully one day. Some you can pick up for cheap on ebay and they can be in very sorry state so its also a salvage element. I absolutely love the various whacky 80s models and designs. The warmasters series has a small range of only 5 models so I'm doing that line first. Hunted down the first already
Unless you have a major headway already may I recommend you don't try that. You wont get a chicken dragon without paying stupid money, and as it was old lead it would fall apart under its own weight anyway. Yes the designers thought of that and have pinning instructions and ways around the problems, it wasn't badly designed, but it did have bad metallurgy. Most GW stuff from the early 80's is now falling apart or very solid to begin with and many of the old models were not solid.
Back in the day when I first got into WHFB circa 6th ed you could get the DRAG7 Dragon Masters model on GW bits order. I bought that and a generic dragon prince rider plus imriks lance to kit bash make my own budget dragon lord. Really regret selling it for beer money. Was my first proper kitbash project. Incidentally years later they released the newest dragon lord kit which looks exactly like that dragon and the look I was going for lol.
So many people asked about the Dragon Masters kit that GW knew they could do the HE plastic dragon only one way. I never bought either kit, and now its too late to buy either.
I fear I may never find Dogs of War Asarnil the Dragonlord kit though :(
Have you ever seen it? Frankly it was not that impressive. If you have a nostalgia draw to the model so be it, but you could let that one slide.
This is where I am getting my next generation big dragons.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blightmoor/the-catastrophes-of-blightmoor The campaign was recent so I do not think its too late to late back now. We dont know all the sculpts yet, I could only afford to order one, if the others don't fit my taste better the black dragon already showcased will. Free beholder is nice too, one of the better beholder sculpts seen.
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Just Tony wrote: The Asarnil kit is one of my favorites, that old plastic Talisman dragon is my go to dragon for all my armies.
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Ok, thats +1 to Asarnil.
I do agree with the Talisman dragon, it is nice, however that set costs something like £200-£300 when it surfaces. I reminds me a lot of the dragon from Dark World expansion Dragon's Gate, which I do have, somewhere.
What's the chicken one?
I haven't seen Asarnil at all unfortunately :( I have an eBay every now and then.
I have no doubt I am very unlikely to succeed in my quest of finding them all, I can but try! Hunting is part of the fun As a very very long term collecting, salvage & painting project thought it should be fun. Beside, any excuse to get cool dragon minis right ? (speaking of which I probably need to get the FW ones by new years before those disappear they will make great collection display pieces!)
This thread has gone completely off track lol.. Perhaps I need to start a thread dedicated to all things Dragons...
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AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
I actually hardly played WFB myself but I was running a chaos dwarf army after seeing some cool stuff at a golden demon years back so I guess I favor 4/5th. I only have the rulebook for 8th though. In terms of sourcing materials, this site is fantastic:
Argive wrote: Thanks. To reitarate i will collect HE regardless of edition and will end up with a unit of everything at the barest minimum.
That said the 7th ed war book came through and I am dissapointed. It looks like a lot of options are gone from memory, mainly there is no Imrik so will probably stick with 6th ed if i can find players. But this is more of a side issue. Getting an army built and painted to a high standard is the priority. Ruleset is an afterthought. Will be getting new dragon mage or two as well for sure. But I always loved the sculpts of the older serpentine dragons. Quintesential WH if you ask me. So mpre likely to lean towards 6th.
Finding players is relatively easy in UK than say compared to the US. If you join the facebook pages for 6th edition and Middlehammer, you can see more than a few tournaments, games day, etc being posted on that forum in UK, not to mention more than a few people looking for games every once in a while. Depending on where you are in the kingdom and if you are willing to travel, you can get a game or three in without much issues.
It lists all the various dragons in a chronological order. I am going to collect them all hopefully one day. Some you can pick up for cheap on ebay and they can be in very sorry state so its also a salvage element. I absolutely love the various whacky 80s models and designs. The warmasters series has a small range of only 5 models so I'm doing that line first. Hunted down the first already
Unless you have a major headway already may I recommend you don't try that. You wont get a chicken dragon without paying stupid money, and as it was old lead it would fall apart under its own weight anyway. Yes the designers thought of that and have pinning instructions and ways around the problems, it wasn't badly designed, but it did have bad metallurgy. Most GW stuff from the early 80's is now falling apart or very solid to begin with and many of the old models were not solid.
Back in the day when I first got into WHFB circa 6th ed you could get the DRAG7 Dragon Masters model on GW bits order. I bought that and a generic dragon prince rider plus imriks lance to kit bash make my own budget dragon lord. Really regret selling it for beer money. Was my first proper kitbash project. Incidentally years later they released the newest dragon lord kit which looks exactly like that dragon and the look I was going for lol.
So many people asked about the Dragon Masters kit that GW knew they could do the HE plastic dragon only one way. I never bought either kit, and now its too late to buy either.
I fear I may never find Dogs of War Asarnil the Dragonlord kit though :(
Have you ever seen it? Frankly it was not that impressive. If you have a nostalgia draw to the model so be it, but you could let that one slide.
This is where I am getting my next generation big dragons.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blightmoor/the-catastrophes-of-blightmoor The campaign was recent so I do not think its too late to late back now. We dont know all the sculpts yet, I could only afford to order one, if the others don't fit my taste better the black dragon already showcased will.
Free beholder is nice too, one of the better beholder sculpts seen.
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Just Tony wrote: The Asarnil kit is one of my favorites, that old plastic Talisman dragon is my go to dragon for all my armies.
#
Ok, thats +1 to Asarnil.
I do agree with the Talisman dragon, it is nice, however that set costs something like £200-£300 when it surfaces.
I reminds me a lot of the dragon from Dark World expansion Dragon's Gate, which I do have, somewhere.
What's the chicken one?
Spoiler:
I haven't seen Asarnil at all unfortunately :(
I have an eBay every now and then.
I have no doubt I am very unlikely to succeed in my quest of finding them all, I can but try! Hunting is part of the fun As a very very long term collecting, salvage & painting project thought it should be fun. Beside, any excuse to get cool dragon minis right ? (speaking of which I probably need to get the FW ones by new years before those disappear they will make great collection display pieces!)
This thread has gone completely off track lol.. Perhaps I need to start a thread dedicated to all things Dragons...
As for the main topic, it is difficult to separate the main rules and corresponding army books from any particular edition. 6th and 7th were pretty similar, but some armies in 7th got involved in a ridiculous arms race with increasingly over-the-top special rules to be even more special and skilled than the previous one. 6th to me feels the best overall though (in part likely as that's when I got into it!), with a lot of flavour in the army books too. Vampire Counts and their bloodlines, Wood Elves with the kindreds, and a good few pages of faction-specific magic items to tinker with, rather than the generic shared list we got later. And of course it gave us the lovely redesigned Wood Elf miniature line; one of my favourites to this day. One of the few good things to come out of 8th were the new Skaven sculpts in my opinion, the rules that rewarded unwieldy massive units were certainly not my cup of tea.
2020/01/26 20:43:07
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
I haven't seen Asarnil at all unfortunately :(
I have an eBay every now and then.
I have no doubt I am very unlikely to succeed in my quest of finding them all, I can but try! Hunting is part of the fun As a very very long term collecting, salvage & painting project thought it should be fun. Beside, any excuse to get cool dragon minis right ? (speaking of which I probably need to get the FW ones by new years before those disappear they will make great collection display pieces!)
This thread has gone completely off track lol.. Perhaps I need to start a thread dedicated to all things Dragons...
Sorry I missed this reply until the thread rose again.
The legendary chicken dragon
Is the size of an actual chicken
The website here says its the size of a small one, the body is about the size of a small chicken from the supermarket, but with wings and all its approaching the size of a turkey. You have to make the wing membranes out of paper or foil and enough pinning to make it a Terminator chicken dragon.
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2020/01/26 23:35:13
Subject: Which edition is best edition ? Thinking about jumping into high elves
AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
Eldar- 4436 pts
