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I don't believe they are knuckledusters.

Some of the 30K Ad Mech seige autonama have basically grav fists which hit like a truck. Ties with the grav gun and amp as it hits so hard.

My 2p.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
My only dissapointment with the fist (otger than no reveal of what the rest of it looks like) is that the knuckles weren't made to look like little Imperial Fists.

This.... upsets me.

Honestly i dont mind the over the top head.

the thing that bothers me about the model is actually the grav gun.

really sick of those things.

 Desubot wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
My only dissapointment with the fist (otger than no reveal of what the rest of it looks like) is that the knuckles weren't made to look like little Imperial Fists.

This.... upsets me.

Honestly i dont mind the over the top head.

the thing that bothers me about the model is actually the grav gun.

really sick of those things.

Grav hasn't really seen a lot of table time this edition, due to not being bery good, and at least it works as means of damaging fortifications. Plus the grav gives the model a different feel than melta would, so I can appreciate it being something different.

The top mounted gun thing is actually giving me a bit of a Saturine vibe, which I dig since those guys felt like walking heavy weapon emplacements.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
My only dissapointment with the fist (otger than no reveal of what the rest of it looks like) is that the knuckles weren't made to look like little Imperial Fists.

This.... upsets me.

Honestly i dont mind the over the top head.

the thing that bothers me about the model is actually the grav gun.

really sick of those things.

Grav hasn't really seen a lot of table time this edition, due to not being bery good, and at least it works as means of damaging fortifications. Plus the grav gives the model a different feel than melta would, so I can appreciate it being something different.

The top mounted gun thing is actually giving me a bit of a Saturine vibe, which I dig since those guys felt like walking heavy weapon emplacements.

It bothers me only because of the previous edition. i like the shoulder mounted gun. but would of preferred a melta or even a bolter of some sort imho.

Its a ok model at best for me - the shoulder gun looks a bit crap but its not gak like Centurions or Baby carrier.

Much prefer the Salamander.

 Desubot wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
My only dissapointment with the fist (otger than no reveal of what the rest of it looks like) is that the knuckles weren't made to look like little Imperial Fists.

This.... upsets me.

Honestly i dont mind the over the top head.

the thing that bothers me about the model is actually the grav gun.

really sick of those things.

Grav hasn't really seen a lot of table time this edition, due to not being bery good, and at least it works as means of damaging fortifications. Plus the grav gives the model a different feel than melta would, so I can appreciate it being something different.

The top mounted gun thing is actually giving me a bit of a Saturine vibe, which I dig since those guys felt like walking heavy weapon emplacements.

It bothers me only because of the previous edition. i like the shoulder mounted gun. but would of preferred a melta or even a bolter of some sort imho.

A heavy bolter would be nice, but doesn't fit into the bolter drill, or fortification destruction parts of the Fists. If we went a different direction I'd argue for a Lascannon, but the fact they went with a Rapid Fire weapon makes me wonder if the Fists are going to lean into the Tactical Doctrine more.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
So it looks like he has single barreled bolters on his wrists, maybe meltas? Flamers?

Nope, no weapons in his fist. They are probably a secondary punch that occurs after the initial punch, hence the x3 strength of the weapon.

No, look at his NON-power fist. He has a gun on it. Seconded by the belt of ammo going to the fist. It's the same with the other fist. He's got powerfisted guns, ala Bobby and Vulcan.

Few things here:

1) that is a power cable, not a belt of ammo.
2) you posted both of these statements after the the leaked datasheet was posted... So....
3) it is the other portion of his signum array(bit over his right shoulder. Presumably the same portions are built into Iron Father Fierros' bionic eye.


As far as the OTT giant fist goes: I appreciate the S 3x rules reflecting the rediculous size of it. The gravgun lack of mounting does seem off though. Like it needs a little post and brace.

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
So it looks like he has single barreled bolters on his wrists, maybe meltas? Flamers?

Nope, no weapons in his fist. They are probably a secondary punch that occurs after the initial punch, hence the x3 strength of the weapon.

No, look at his NON-power fist. He has a gun on it. Seconded by the belt of ammo going to the fist. It's the same with the other fist. He's got powerfisted guns, ala Bobby and Vulcan.

Few things here:

1) that is a power cable, not a belt of ammo.
2) you posted both of these statements after the the leaked datasheet was posted... So....
3) it is the other portion of his signum array(bit over his right shoulder. Presumably the same portions are built into Iron Father Fierros' bionic eye.


As far as the OTT giant fist goes: I appreciate the S 3x rules reflecting the rediculous size of it. The gravgun lack of mounting does seem off though. Like it needs a little post and brace.

I'm just going to assume he either stole that fist from a Dreadnought, or it's some kind of experimental model (which explains why it needs it's own massive power cable) and he saw it and said "yeah, I could cast fist with that."

I think that if you can tweak the grav mount a bit and give him a helmet, its an decent model.

 MannyMcCoconut wrote:
I think that if you can tweak the grav mount a bit and give him a helmet, its an decent model.

Helmets are pretty easy to fix. I mean we get a free one in our upgrade sprue:

 Ishagu wrote:
Yeah it's a great model, I'm a big fan.

I'm glad you earned your pay check from GW this week.

 Shadenuat wrote:
He looks dumb and strong, like Space Marine should, and even though I don't collect Marines I would definitely run him, I mean, slowly 5" walk him to the enemy while saying every meme dorn alfabusa joke I remember.

Hold my beer.

Let’s put wolverine claws on the powerfist.

Now, let’s charge them with lightning...

SeanDrake wrote:
They both look like they were intended to be Vulken and Lysander but either fluff changed or they bottled it and just made the generic charter a and b.

That is the only thing that explains the fists head, the sculpt was done then with 30mins warning they needed a new head for it and enter desperate derpy Dan.

No idea about the IF guy but I'd be amazed if that was ever meant to be vulkan. Considering he carries the spear of vulkan the likelihood of him discarding it in favour of a thunder hammer seems pretty slim.

kingheff wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
They both look like they were intended to be Vulken and Lysander but either fluff changed or they bottled it and just made the generic charter a and b.

That is the only thing that explains the fists head, the sculpt was done then with 30mins warning they needed a new head for it and enter desperate derpy Dan.

No idea about the IF guy but I'd be amazed if that was ever meant to be vulkan. Considering he carries the spear of vulkan the likelihood of him discarding it in favour of a thunder hammer seems pretty slim.

It's not Vulkan. The video names him as Adrax Agatone.

kingheff wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
They both look like they were intended to be Vulken and Lysander but either fluff changed or they bottled it and just made the generic charter a and b.

That is the only thing that explains the fists head, the sculpt was done then with 30mins warning they needed a new head for it and enter desperate derpy Dan.

No idea about the IF guy but I'd be amazed if that was ever meant to be vulkan. Considering he carries the spear of vulkan the likelihood of him discarding it in favour of a thunder hammer seems pretty slim.

Its the same deal if the IF guy was supposed to be lysander

considering big lyssy has a very cool storm shield and a relic thunder hammer which has a fist on it.

 Desubot wrote:

kingheff wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
They both look like they were intended to be Vulken and Lysander but either fluff changed or they bottled it and just made the generic charter a and b.

That is the only thing that explains the fists head, the sculpt was done then with 30mins warning they needed a new head for it and enter desperate derpy Dan.

No idea about the IF guy but I'd be amazed if that was ever meant to be vulkan. Considering he carries the spear of vulkan the likelihood of him discarding it in favour of a thunder hammer seems pretty slim.

Its the same deal if the IF guy was supposed to be lysander

considering big lyssy has a very cool storm shield and a relic thunder hammer which has a fist on it.

He's the 3rd Company Captain (former named Sergeant Upgrade) from the Imperial Fists supplement we got last edition.

 MannyMcCoconut wrote:
I think that if you can tweak the grav mount a bit and give him a helmet, its an decent model.

Better mount for the Grav-Gun and a helmet and he's good.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

kingheff wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
They both look like they were intended to be Vulken and Lysander but either fluff changed or they bottled it and just made the generic charter a and b.

That is the only thing that explains the fists head, the sculpt was done then with 30mins warning they needed a new head for it and enter desperate derpy Dan.

No idea about the IF guy but I'd be amazed if that was ever meant to be vulkan. Considering he carries the spear of vulkan the likelihood of him discarding it in favour of a thunder hammer seems pretty slim.

Its the same deal if the IF guy was supposed to be lysander

considering big lyssy has a very cool storm shield and a relic thunder hammer which has a fist on it.

He's the 3rd Company Captain (former named Sergeant Upgrade) from the Imperial Fists supplement we got last edition.

I know he isnt supposed to be lysander. im replying to the suggestion that these are supposed to be him and vulkan.

 Desubot wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

kingheff wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
They both look like they were intended to be Vulken and Lysander but either fluff changed or they bottled it and just made the generic charter a and b.

That is the only thing that explains the fists head, the sculpt was done then with 30mins warning they needed a new head for it and enter desperate derpy Dan.

No idea about the IF guy but I'd be amazed if that was ever meant to be vulkan. Considering he carries the spear of vulkan the likelihood of him discarding it in favour of a thunder hammer seems pretty slim.

Its the same deal if the IF guy was supposed to be lysander

considering big lyssy has a very cool storm shield and a relic thunder hammer which has a fist on it.

He's the 3rd Company Captain (former named Sergeant Upgrade) from the Imperial Fists supplement we got last edition.

I know he isnt supposed to be lysander. im replying to the suggestion that these are supposed to be him and vulkan.

And I was adding onto that with whom he's supposed to be for the folks who didn't know that he existed before this.

What is it with GW and Primaris unhelmeted marine heads lately? The Raven Guard are all emo, and this new Imperial Fist is "Derpy Dan". Sculptors, move away from caricatures and cartoons!

The Salamander is not a bad looking model, although his lower face is covered with the breather mask. That might be what's keeping that figure from becoming another cartoon.

But what is wrong about the guys face, it is a regular dudes face, aside of the hair colour, I could find thousands of dudes having a face like that in my area. He has the classic miner/lumbermill/steelworker face.

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
What is it with GW and Primaris unhelmeted marine heads lately? The Raven Guard are all emo, and this new Imperial Fist is "Derpy Dan". Sculptors, move away from caricatures and cartoons!

The Salamander is not a bad looking model, although his lower face is covered with the breather mask. That might be what's keeping that figure from becoming another cartoon.

I think they're trying to give each chapter a distinct look and unfortunately some of it is verging to caricature.

 Crimson wrote:

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
What is it with GW and Primaris unhelmeted marine heads lately? The Raven Guard are all emo, and this new Imperial Fist is "Derpy Dan". Sculptors, move away from caricatures and cartoons!

The Salamander is not a bad looking model, although his lower face is covered with the breather mask. That might be what's keeping that figure from becoming another cartoon.

I think they're trying to give each chapter a distinct look and unfortunately some of it is verging to caricature.

I think miniatures are a bad medium for that. Some things 40k cannot do on the tabletop and varied faces seem to be on that list.

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
What is it with GW and Primaris unhelmeted marine heads lately? The Raven Guard are all emo, and this new Imperial Fist is "Derpy Dan". Sculptors, move away from caricatures and cartoons!

The Salamander is not a bad looking model, although his lower face is covered with the breather mask. That might be what's keeping that figure from becoming another cartoon.

What do we mean "lately"? Most of the Marine characters have helmetless models. It's less common for them to have helmets unless their Chaplains.

Yeah, the trend has always been that sergeants and officers/characters have been helmetless.

Also, GW paints their figures in a cartoonish style, which tends to make characters look a bit off (worst example of late being the “male” Banshee autarch )

It is the cartoony look of the new helmetless heads. My 3rd ed. Blood Angels have their share of helmetless heads for the character models, but they are not goofy-looking like this Fist character or the Raven Guard.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
What is it with GW and Primaris unhelmeted marine heads lately? The Raven Guard are all emo, and this new Imperial Fist is "Derpy Dan". Sculptors, move away from caricatures and cartoons!

The Salamander is not a bad looking model, although his lower face is covered with the breather mask. That might be what's keeping that figure from becoming another cartoon.

What do we mean "lately"? Most of the Marine characters have helmetless models. It's less common for them to have helmets unless their Chaplains.

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
It is the cartoony look of the new helmetless heads. My 3rd ed. Blood Angels have their share of helmetless heads for the character models, but they are not goofy-looking like this Fist character or the Raven Guard.

I blame GW's low contrast paint style they've shifted too. It doesn't really give the models enough depth in the recesses which makes it feel more toyetic.

HoundsofDemos wrote:

 Ishagu wrote:
Yeah it's a great model, I'm a big fan.

I'm glad you earned your pay check from GW this week.

What, so people can't like models unless they're paid by GW?

Let people enjoy things.

Wait, GW pays you for liking their models? I am an idiot, I have been doing it for free! I like most of their models, I could have made a fortune!

Well apparently I've been doing 40k wrong for the last couple decades since apparently we can get paid for liking the game.