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2020/09/29 22:46:00
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
cody.d. wrote: I mean, if you count weapons they can wield then it gets a bit silly at times. A random Mek could be sitting in the controls of a tractor beam, lobbing meteors and such at people. Abby has The World Killer. And lets not even mention the weapon planets that crons have their skeletal metal hands on.
Does abby still have the planet killer? Wasn't it destroyed? Doesn't he still tool around in the vengeful spirit?
2020/09/29 23:25:04
Subject: Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
cody.d. wrote: Nah, sangi is alive mate. The sanginour is his soul/herald/whatever warp nonsense.
As a Blood Angels player - I really hope not, for the sake of the lore. Two reasons:
- it's going to make an absolute mess of the lore surrounding the Black Rage and the Death Company, and
- his death is one of the few constants of a setting that's mired with unknowns and purposely-vague blanks that players can fill in. Bringing him back would be akin to bringing back Spiderman's Uncle Ben, or Bruce Wayne's parents. Yes, both have been done, but it's never been a good thing and was retconned before long, with good reason...!!
Besides, it isn't certain if the Sanguinor is really what's left of Sanguinius - It's left purposely unclear. Codex quotes:
"Not much is known about his origins, and what information does exist is really nothing more than speculation by the Chapter's Librarium and several Imperial scholars well-versed in the lore of the Adeptus Astartes"
"While the Sanguinor's deeds are unquestioned, there has always been much debate concerning his origin and identity."
"The Sanguinary Guard do not believe that the Sanguinor is the Chapter's Primarch but that he is Azkaellon, the original founder of the Sanguinary Guard, who has been preserved beyond time by the divine will of the Emperor."
"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch
2020/09/30 00:43:15
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Yeah for the most part I was just being cheeky. Sanguinius' death at the hands of Horus is pretty central to the lore. As much as The Emporer being on the throne is. Admittedly I can see it happening, like with Roubute but likely it'd cause some uproar within the fanbase.
2020/09/30 06:51:45
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Dysartes wrote: I'm surprised no-one has mention Sly Marbo yet...
Well, there is "demi-god" level (primarchs). Then there is literal god level (Avatar of Khaine, C'tan). And then, above this, there is Sly Marbo level. Definitely the top dog of this uncaring universe!
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2020/09/30 09:43:50
Subject: Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Are ctan subject to the influences of the warp and like wise can they affect the warp? If not can we compare ctan to chaos? Therefore is the question who is most powerful in the materium
2020/09/30 12:19:00
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Depends what you are asking and how you define it. Probably one of the chaos gods. Even though they are somewhat limited by their own nature, and will probably evebtually disapear after a while once all life is dead. The other gods can count ad well, mostly the ork two. Also the gestalt hivemind is a contester of it counts within the definition.
Super Ready wrote: Woooooah, my goodness. Imagine bringing a model of THAT bad boy to an Apocalypse game. Dare I ask, what - if anything - ended up taking it down?
1000000000000000000000000 gretchin
40K - Ynnari
AoS - Daughters of Khaine/Sylvaneth/Lumineth
2020/09/30 17:58:15
Subject: Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Ghazghkull Thraka. He's the biggest so he's the strongest. But in all seriousness he's a force to reckon with on the tabletop. I've seen him take out double his worth of points on the tabletop time and time again. I can't say the same for Abaddon.
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2020/09/30 19:29:32
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Super Ready wrote: Woooooah, my goodness. Imagine bringing a model of THAT bad boy to an Apocalypse game. Dare I ask, what - if anything - ended up taking it down?
The legio marching into the rift and basically evaporating into the warp and destabilising the rift before the Birth could fully claw it's way out.
I think this is exactly what the Ordo Sinister was intended for.
Termagants expended for the Hive Mind: ~2835
2020/09/30 21:02:12
Subject: Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
I was going to be cheeky and suggest The Changeling, a human sized Tzeentch daemon who can turn into whoever it is fighting (like the Pokemon ditto) but I think it only works against infantry, and daemon primarchs are monsters. Oh well.
I'll say Angron.
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2020/10/01 20:11:46
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Super Ready wrote: Woooooah, my goodness. Imagine bringing a model of THAT bad boy to an Apocalypse game. Dare I ask, what - if anything - ended up taking it down?
1000000000000000000000000 gretchin
Dammit Luunar, look what you made me do! You made me go and do a thing.
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch
2020/10/01 20:30:57
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Super Ready wrote: Woooooah, my goodness. Imagine bringing a model of THAT bad boy to an Apocalypse game. Dare I ask, what - if anything - ended up taking it down?
1000000000000000000000000 gretchin
Dammit Luunar, look what you made me do! You made me go and do a thing.
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40K - Ynnari
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2020/10/01 22:15:21
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Going to have to go with C'tan here. The ones that the Necrotyr encountered had no knowledge of the materium outside of the stars they were consuming, when the Necrotyr made them aware, they realised that the flavour of stars was bland in comparison to a life force of a creature. All of the ones the Necrotyr encountered were smashed apart into shards by the Necrons and whilst a shard is extremely powerful it wouldn't be the most powerful entity in the materium as they are now a minute fraction of the original star god power.
However, in an entire galaxy, you can be pretty confident that the Necrotyr didn't encounter them all and that there are some still munching away on stars. If one of these was made aware of the wider materium outside of their star you could be sure as hell that they would be the most powerful being. They butchered the Old Ones, the race who basically created most of the races today and who accidentally created the beings of the warp through extreme use of psychic powers. The C'Tan basically ate 'the creators' (what RL religions refer to as a god/gods) for breakfast.
The Necrons, the race that has a star map of the Galaxy that allows them to turn stars 'off' were so concerned about them that they had to trick them into a position where they could be broken into shards so they could be controlled.
Abby, Magnus, Guilliman, bio-titans, Imperitors etc wouldn't be able to stand up to that power for a second. Sly Marbo might of course though.
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2020/10/02 19:48:42
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Y'know folks, we may be looking at this the wrong way. The question is "who is the strongest character in all of 40k".
We have a Strength characteristic, and we have a Character keyword. There are your restrictions - they've gotta have rules in order to have that characteristic and keyword, so no Chaos Gods, no Emperor, and only 3 Primarchs are (currently) up for running.
My vote goes to Tor Garadon! I don't know of anyone else that can punch at S12...?
Not to mention he's dressed in yellow with red accents and wears a cape. Coincidence? I think not...!
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch
2020/10/02 22:02:12
Subject: Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Well, Angron lifted a titan that was trying to crush him, so if thats the bar, for LIVING I'd have to say KALDOR DRAIGO, because FLUFF STRENGTH AND WARP DUST!
Also, there is a Vegeta/Bruce Banneresque quality to Ragnar, I mean the angrier he gets the stronger, right?
2020/10/03 05:05:08
Subject: Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
locarno24 wrote:That's ever been seen in the "real world" - I'd probably argue for 'The Birth', a....daemonic....thing....from the Titan graphic novel.
mrFickle wrote: Are ctan subject to the influences of the warp and like wise can they affect the warp? If not can we compare ctan to chaos? Therefore is the question who is most powerful in the materium
In the Materium, outside of (arguably) the Emperor there is nothing that can really challenge a full-powered C'tan (arguably the Emperor) 1v1. IF a Chaos God (or Gork/Mork, etc) could completely manifest in real-space then maybe, but that's not really about to happen.
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2020/10/03 15:14:00
Subject: Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote: Well, Angron lifted a titan that was trying to crush him, so if thats the bar, for LIVING I'd have to say KALDOR DRAIGO, because FLUFF STRENGTH AND WARP DUST!
Also, there is a Vegeta/Bruce Banneresque quality to Ragnar, I mean the angrier he gets the stronger, right?
Thrakka ghazkhull apparently gains attacks the more wounded he becomes.
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2020/10/03 20:08:27
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
I'm not really sure one can point to a definitively "strongest", given the scale of 40k, there's got to be some criteria. There's not much that's going to successfully match blades with a Bloodthirster, but or wits with a Lord of Change, but at the same time, neither responds well to a Guard Lieutenant informing their gunner that the presence of such monsters is offensive and that would they please make use of the Volcano cannon to remedy that situation. A Warlord Titan can level entire armies at a distance but is vulnerable to infantry assault and boarding (not something really represented in-game) or logistical disruption. Lucius can probably beat anyone in sword duel, but I'm not sure the Deffdred that simply picked him up and tore him in two really cares. Creed may be a tactical genius able to pull off insane victories at the head of an army, but in personal combat he's just an old man.
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2020/10/04 05:01:45
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Vaktathi wrote: I'm not really sure one can point to a definitively "strongest", given the scale of 40k, there's got to be some criteria. There's not much that's going to successfully match blades with a Bloodthirster, but or wits with a Lord of Change, but at the same time, neither responds well to a Guard Lieutenant informing their gunner that the presence of such monsters is offensive and that would they please make use of the Volcano cannon to remedy that situation. A Warlord Titan can level entire armies at a distance but is vulnerable to infantry assault and boarding (not something really represented in-game) or logistical disruption. Lucius can probably beat anyone in sword duel, but I'm not sure the Deffdred that simply picked him up and tore him in two really cares. Creed may be a tactical genius able to pull off insane victories at the head of an army, but in personal combat he's just an old man.
The Nightbringer imprinted the genetic memory of itself as the symbol of death on sentient life across the galaxy. I'd say that's up there.
To be fair, given how much stuff in 40k either openly spits in death's eye, actively welcomes it, can't meaningfully conceive of it, or just doesn't experience it, imprinting one's self as the symbol of death actually isn't as scary as one would expect it to be, particularly when there are so many worse fates than death that are possible
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
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2020/10/04 08:30:27
Subject: Who is the strongest character in all of 40k?
Vaktathi wrote: To be fair, given how much stuff in 40k either openly spits in death's eye, actively welcomes it, can't meaningfully conceive of it, or just doesn't experience it, imprinting one's self as the symbol of death actually isn't as scary as one would expect it to be, particularly when there are so many worse fates than death that are possible
It's less about "scary" and more about raw magnatude of effect, having caused so much death that millions of years later it is still remembered thousands of generations later.
Also, I don't fully know what the new model will bring, but so far a shard is pretty killy. I know in it's 3rd edition incarnation it had no problem killing a Bloodthirster.
"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch 
