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 Dysartes wrote:

Voss wrote:
Eh. Of the 3 combat patrol boxes so far, AND the Xmas box, this is the best one by far.

I honestly don't care what chapter they theme these to, they can be used for any loyalist space marines.

..which is exactly what the OP is disappointed by? Aside from any upgrade sprues which may or may not be in there, the only thing saying "Blood Angels" about this "Blood Angels Combat Patrol" is the use of red paint.

Yeah, that makes no sense to me. Blood angels 'core units' are every and all space marine core units. They're a codex chapter.
The combat patrols aren't going to have the brand new stuff (like assault intercessors), and of the HQ choices, the Librarian makes the most sense (they fit BA just fine, and the Lts and primaris captains have all been done to death in various boxes).

Every combat patrol box is going to be interchangeable between chapters. Their value goes down immensely if they aren't.

Voss wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

Voss wrote:
Eh. Of the 3 combat patrol boxes so far, AND the Xmas box, this is the best one by far.

I honestly don't care what chapter they theme these to, they can be used for any loyalist space marines.

..which is exactly what the OP is disappointed by? Aside from any upgrade sprues which may or may not be in there, the only thing saying "Blood Angels" about this "Blood Angels Combat Patrol" is the use of red paint.

Yeah, that makes no sense to me. Blood angels 'core units' are every and all space marine core units. They're a codex chapter.
The combat patrols aren't going to have the brand new stuff (like assault intercessors), and of the HQ choices, the Librarian makes the most sense.

Every combat patrol box is going to be interchangeable between chapters. Their value goes down immensely if they aren't.

I eman yeah they coulda included the BA leuitenant but let's be honest here... are there any space marine players out here who DON'T have a surplus of those fethers?

Heck I think it's a safe bet that most people buying the marine Combat Patrol boxes are eaither eistablished players (and thus have more leuitenants then they know what to do with) or are new players who likely purchased the recruit box and are looking to expand their army, which means they HAVE a Lt.

 Type40 wrote:
Nothing particularly "blood angels" about this box other then the upgrade sprue... feels like just another excuse to sell a primaris marine starter kit with out just calling it that. I guess its nice to have a terminator thrown in for old times sake.

I get where you were coming from OP ... generic and vanilla... too bad. But generic and vanilla can sell to more people ... and GW likes monies.

Yep. This.

Voss wrote:
Eh. Of the 3 combat patrol boxes so far, AND the Xmas box, this is the best one by far.

I honestly don't care what chapter they theme these to, they can be used for any loyalist space marines.

See Type40's comment.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

Voss wrote:
Eh. Of the 3 combat patrol boxes so far, AND the Xmas box, this is the best one by far.

I honestly don't care what chapter they theme these to, they can be used for any loyalist space marines.

..which is exactly what the OP is disappointed by? Aside from any upgrade sprues which may or may not be in there, the only thing saying "Blood Angels" about this "Blood Angels Combat Patrol" is the use of red paint.

except his main complaint seems to be "WHY DO WE HAVE A LIBRARIAN" As if libbies aren't something frequently used by the blood angels (when your chapter is the only one with access to Librarian dreadnoughts you can't with a straight face claim you're not a chapter that makes heavy use of libbies)

My post did say: "But for the love of Terra, why that Librarian? Wouldn't it have been more thematic if it were a jump pack Librarian with a power axe?" I would have preferred that.

BrianDavion wrote:

Voss wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

Voss wrote:
Eh. Of the 3 combat patrol boxes so far, AND the Xmas box, this is the best one by far.

I honestly don't care what chapter they theme these to, they can be used for any loyalist space marines.

..which is exactly what the OP is disappointed by? Aside from any upgrade sprues which may or may not be in there, the only thing saying "Blood Angels" about this "Blood Angels Combat Patrol" is the use of red paint.

Yeah, that makes no sense to me. Blood angels 'core units' are every and all space marine core units. They're a codex chapter.
The combat patrols aren't going to have the brand new stuff (like assault intercessors), and of the HQ choices, the Librarian makes the most sense.

Every combat patrol box is going to be interchangeable between chapters. Their value goes down immensely if they aren't.

I eman yeah they coulda included the BA leuitenant but let's be honest here... are there any space marine players out here who DON'T have a surplus of those fethers?

Heck I think it's a safe bet that most people buying the marine Combat Patrol boxes are eaither eistablished players (and thus have more leuitenants then they know what to do with) or are new players who likely purchased the recruit box and are looking to expand their army, which means they HAVE a Lt.

This. I would have wanted a more BA-themed army rather than getting a box full of marines I already have/will surely have; the redundancy would be staggering.

There's always the "so don't buy it" option but I was hoping this'd be good BA-themed box to start a Blood Angels army with.

Seems there's two overlapping reasons people are getting mad in here:

1. "GW aren't catering exclusively to me and my specific needs / tastes"

2. "I suspect that GW, a business, are operating in a way so as to prioritise turning a profit over (1). This is unacceptable."

I mean, go ahead, I guess, but you may as well get mad at weather.

I mean maybe that is true, but the fact that in order to generate profit GW is selling over costed and bad products seems to be a thing too. I think what really bothers people is the fact that all those start collecting/patrols are flaged as savings and great deals, when it is very rarely the case.

The old SW start collecting primaris box was great, for example. The regular BA one not so much. DI, Know no Fear great boxs. The new replacmant of them are really bad and cost more. specialy the DI replacment box.

You keep repeating that things are "bad" as thought that's a subjective assessment though, and that's precisely my point – it's essentially impossible for GW to please all the people all the time (and, apparently, some people *any* of the time); just because you don't like it on the basis it's not exactly what you want it to be, that doesn't constitute irrefutable proof that GW are doing something wrong. And given that GW isn't in the habit of setting out what it's aiming to achieve from a business perspective with these box sets, it's essentially impossible to determine whether they're achieving those aims or not.

Well, an absolutely displaced box with no signature infantry unit in there.
What is GW thinking?
It seems they don't have an advisory board for BA.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, an absolutely displaced box with no signature infantry unit in there.
What is GW thinking?
It seems they don't have an advisory board for BA.

So where was the signature Deathwatch unit?

The BA box lets you build Death Company Intercessors, Incursors, etc if you want.

Space Wolves and Ultramarines, so far have been the only Chapters to get a 'signature' Primaris unit...but BA can turn Primaris into Death Company if they choose to. They just don't get a dedicated kit...kinda like how SW got Reivers with an upgrade sprue too.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, an absolutely displaced box with no signature infantry unit in there.
What is GW thinking?
It seems they don't have an advisory board for BA.

Do you think Primaris have been featured enough to have signature infantry, or any other Primaris unit for that matter, for Blood Angels or any other chapter? Because I think it misplaced thinking to believe future box sets are going to bother putting many Firstborn models in anymore. Just like I think it would be misplaced to think that months old, non-ETB kits are going to find themselves in those same boxes.

I honestly don't see anything wrong with the Blood Angels Combat Patrol box model-wise. If I didn't already have a Librarian, I probably pick up a box for my army. Which if I absolutely had to tie to a space marine supplement would probably be Blood Angels despite them looking a lot like Raptors (Raven Guard successors).

I think the real problem here is that Blood Angels haven't been flanderized enough to be massively divergent and have a slew of super cool and unique models like the space wolves. If they were, then we could have Box Sets with all their very special unique models, instead of staying true to the fluff of the chapter which is mostly Codex Complaint, while offering a handy discount and an upgrade sprue for some models.

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Since GW asked the question: I would have been interested in that Blood Angels box.

A lot of people don't get my disappointment. Yes, a lot of the models in there can be used in a Blood Angels army. I even theorycrafted a list several weeks back and it has Intercessors in it.

But if you label something as a "Blood Angels Combat Patrol" I'd like for it to have 1-2 core units in there. I want to have a set that's very thematic, not just peppered ENTIRELY with models that yes, you can field in a Blood Angels army but other Chapters have access to. (READ: Generic units are OKAY. Just include even just one Blood Angels-specific units.)

Keep the Aggressors. Keep the Intercessors. But for the love of Terra, why that Librarian? Wouldn't it have been more thematic if it were a jump pack Librarian with a power axe? Also: A unit of Sanguinary Guard? A Death Company?

Your thoughts?

None of the blood angels specific units are in primaris yet. GW will not release another box featuring firstborn ever again from the way things are trending. Until we hear primaris death company, hope you enjoy these really annoying choices. Think how white scars feel, their chapter master is stuck walking because GW couldn't be bothered to give him a bike until the rest of primaris got it. Be thankful there's not a primaris death company unit that's just intercessors with rifles walking.

Errmmmm... rules wise, there is.

Spoiler:

That's hilarious, I honestly had no idea looks like they're just intercessors with some angel bits on them, honestly with no way to give them jumppacks what's the point? It's like GW releasing the white scars supplement in 8th saying "oh yeah they totally use primaris" when none of the primaris units fit their style of play in the slightest.

Forgive me, 2 years of new primaris models for an army that already had all it's bases covered, while many armies are still stuck with iconic units in resin or webstore only, I'll be honest I think I just ignore all new marine news out of spite. The amount of stuff that could've been updated in the past 2 years for the rest of the game, while still updating a few core marine units like terminator and scout kits, is honestly kind of sickening, and I'll never really forgive GW for that. Not even just xenos, guard is still stuck with troop boxes that are almost 20 years old for example. Did we really need a 5th primaris troop choice instead of a new guardsman box, Ork boyz, or gaunts? /Rant