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 the_scotsman wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 the_scotsman wrote:
"the number of people playing Age of Sigmar and 40k gives the IMPRESSION that they are popular and what people want" if my favorite hottest spiciest take of the day.


TBF it isn't that wrong...
GW's appeal is based on mass market and therefore player certainity securing investment. AKA how likely you are to find an opponent.
And that can mean that people put up with GW despite hating GW's guts.


You really actually unironically think that the core appeal, the thing people buy into GW games for, is "how easy it is to find an opponent"?

....Not "gosh, those miniatures look AMAZING"?


to the contrary, actually, often they look at the minis, find them amazing, look at the price and bow out until they realise that the player population forces their hand back torwards again.
Well tbf that was before 6/7th over here were gw shat the bed so badly that their market dominance collapsed and other games got a bigger share in population numbers.
So yes, player population and the chance for matches are just as important often as the miniatures.

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 the_scotsman wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 the_scotsman wrote:
"the number of people playing Age of Sigmar and 40k gives the IMPRESSION that they are popular and what people want" if my favorite hottest spiciest take of the day.


TBF it isn't that wrong...
GW's appeal is based on mass market and therefore player certainity securing investment. AKA how likely you are to find an opponent.
And that can mean that people put up with GW despite hating GW's guts.


You really actually unironically think that the core appeal, the thing people buy into GW games for, is "how easy it is to find an opponent"?

....Not "gosh, those miniatures look AMAZING"?


Corvus Belli minis look amazing. GW figures look like World of Warcraft knockoffs.

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 the_scotsman wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 the_scotsman wrote:
"the number of people playing Age of Sigmar and 40k gives the IMPRESSION that they are popular and what people want" if my favorite hottest spiciest take of the day.


TBF it isn't that wrong...
GW's appeal is based on mass market and therefore player certainity securing investment. AKA how likely you are to find an opponent.
And that can mean that people put up with GW despite hating GW's guts.


You really actually unironically think that the core appeal, the thing people buy into GW games for, is "how easy it is to find an opponent"?

....Not "gosh, those miniatures look AMAZING"?


I don't think that, but I have certainly frequently heard "I want to try these other games, but I can't find anyone to play against" as a reason that people continue to play GW games, despite not particularly enjoying them.

Although I do think it's a poor argument in this day and age. with FB groups and other internet tools its relatively straightforward to find groups if that is something you want to do.

I managed to get people to play relatively uncommon games in the pre-internet era (or certainly, pre-social media era) just be a bringing some minis (and a bit of persuasion/enthusiasm!) to a local club.

But yes I don't think most people play GW games because of ease of finding an opponent, certainly when they start out.

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 master of ordinance wrote:

Also, the move towards "rules light" and "open" recently is cancerous, and the reasons given are awful.


Tell me more about this thought please. I really want to hear more. This may not be the thread, so feel free to PM me.

Thanks!

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 the_scotsman wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 the_scotsman wrote:
"the number of people playing Age of Sigmar and 40k gives the IMPRESSION that they are popular and what people want" if my favorite hottest spiciest take of the day.


TBF it isn't that wrong...
GW's appeal is based on mass market and therefore player certainity securing investment. AKA how likely you are to find an opponent.
And that can mean that people put up with GW despite hating GW's guts.


You really actually unironically think that the core appeal, the thing people buy into GW games for, is "how easy it is to find an opponent"?

....Not "gosh, those miniatures look AMAZING"?


well this is the main argument most people put in first, because the amazing looking minis can be used with any game, no need to play GW games for that
and because of how much armies cost to start (and how cheap 3D printing is), the amount of people who use no GW minis at all is increasing (I know nearby Clubs that bought themselves several printers and no new army uses any GW models, yet they still play GW games "reasons")


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 master of ordinance wrote:
Let me put it another way.
If i want a game what have I the largest chance, on average of finding? Whats the one thing, the one company, that has spread its roots to every corner of the world?
GW
Battletech, Infinity, non Warlords historicals, Oathmark, any hex and chit game.... Good luck. It takes ages to find them. AoS or 40K? Walk into almost any game store.
Its the same with RPG's, whats the one you can always get players for even though its garbage? DnD.


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Well bugger, I was outbid on the minis I was after to finish my Lancashire themed warband. Thats a ballache and a half, now I have to spend alot more.


People need friends outside of a game store. Friends buy into a game that is not popular at the game store. Play and make it visible. Sounds like GW and DnD are popular because people are having a friend problem. And I mean this in a sincere way. GW and TSR got me into those hobbies but friends got me into Warmachine/Hordes, X-Wing, Shadowrun, Battetech, GURPS, Traveller.

 
   
 
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