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 ImAGeek wrote:

JSG wrote:
It's also the actual sculpting and designs. None of these other companies have a Seb Perbet or Martin Footit working for them just like they never had a Jes Goodwin or Brian Nelson in the past.

I’m almost certain Jes is still there btw, unless he left recently.

Yeah i'm pretty sure he designed like, the Bladeguard Vets and such.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I’m almost certain Jes is still there btw, unless he left recently.

Jes can't leave until he's designed a new set of Aspect Warriors.

 tauist wrote:
WH+ came and took away your free bolter pron, deal with it.

Hail corporate.

More boot please, Emperor Rountree!

Threads like this should be locked at birth. We all know how tediously predictable the comments will be …

… including this one

Why should it? If you're not interested in the topic you can simpy ignore it?

It always boil down to one thing; customers pay their wages.

I can't speak for others but I've been taking my custom elsewhere. I now only purchase the odd thing from GW via an independent with discount, but since the stupidity with the pricing of Kill Team its been GW's loss and Osprey and Modiphus' gain.

My problem with their C&D antics is that they want to be very loud in this regard but have no time for us - their paying customers - when it came to the cancelling of Cursed City. Eager fans providing them heart felt tribute doesn't pay their wages - Warhammer Quest customers do. While I'm all for GW protecting their IP, they need to attend to their paying customers first.

For a stock dummy like me, can somebody explain in easy words why people selling their GW stock at lower prices (isn't that what makes it go down? Less people want to buy at a given, higher price?) got anything to do with a bunch of heated discussions online?

It is hard to believe for me that some suits are looking into the GW community this detailed? Especially when we have seen most releases selling out this year? Surely the stock guys would be aware of that, too?

a_typical_hero wrote:
It is hard to believe for me that some suits are looking into the GW community this detailed? Especially when we have seen most releases selling out this year? Surely the stock guys would be aware of that, too?

Stocks can come up and down depending on bloody anything, the surge in Bowsette-themed pornography caused Nintendo stocks to soar and Christiano Ronaldo drinking water when he had a Cola bottle in his view caused their stocks to plummet.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Why should it? If you're not interested in the topic you can simpy ignore it?

Wow! That never occurred to me! Thanks!

 Arbitrator wrote:

 tauist wrote:
WH+ came and took away your free bolter pron, deal with it.

Hail corporate.

More boot please, Emperor Rountree!

He's just pointing out how stupid your position is. You should thank him.

I tend not to believe much on tabloids, good or bad reviews as they are so freaking biased.

So yep what boycott? Never heard of anything about that, sounds like someone overeaching.

All in all Xmas is around so they will get loads of moneys from everyone for sure.

The Times ain't a tabloid, even if it's printed in "tabloid" format these days.

Market analyst sees complaints online and rates down GW's stock?

Where has this market analyst been looking for the past 10-20 years?

Splog wrote:
Market analyst sees complaints online and rates down GW's stock?

Where has this market analyst been looking for the past 10-20 years?

Well, it depends. How old is the aforementioned market analyst?

 Albertorius wrote:


Well, it depends. How old is the aforementioned market analyst?

Good point, well made.

Splog wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:


Well, it depends. How old is the aforementioned market analyst?

Good point, well made.

Agreed. Probably not much heavy research into where GW sits in the market until they made headlines when their stock prices soared.

Considering a lot of the complaints are based on misinformation and wild assumptions that ignore or misinterpret what's going on, rather than what GW has actually done recently, It's a bit surprising its gone that far.

So boycot on change that was no change. Lol

Those articles sound more like guessing why there are drops and just blaming it on the social media noise like youtube comments. Because let's face it, the "boycott" and "negative online reviews" are no new story at all for those who really follow GW's history.

Would rather point the brexit and current problems with distribution / production that are severly slowing down GW's release calender in comparison to before, having effects on orders as well.

"Fan boycott threats", heh. At least it made me draw a smirk on my lips.

Easy click videos to make for youtubers in the business of "GW is evil", though.

Sarouan wrote:
Those articles sound more like guessing why there are drops and just blaming it on the social media noise like youtube comments. Because let's face it, the "boycott" and "negative online reviews" are no new story at all for those who really follow GW's history.

Would rather point the brexit and current problems with distribution / production that are severly slowing down GW's release calender in comparison to before, having effects on orders as well.

"Fan boycott threats", heh. At least it made me draw a smirk on my lips.

Easy click videos to make for youtubers in the business of "GW is evil", though.

Some of the comments here are wild. The analyst is not guessing at the reason for a downgrade. He is the one who downgraded the stock. He is giving the stock a downgrade and then telling you why he did it. The market is reacting to his downgrade.

You can disagree with the analyst, but acting like he is just grasping at straws borders on insanity when he is the one who downgraded the stock.

 phandaal wrote:

Sarouan wrote:
Those articles sound more like guessing why there are drops and just blaming it on the social media noise like youtube comments. Because let's face it, the "boycott" and "negative online reviews" are no new story at all for those who really follow GW's history.

Would rather point the brexit and current problems with distribution / production that are severly slowing down GW's release calender in comparison to before, having effects on orders as well.

"Fan boycott threats", heh. At least it made me draw a smirk on my lips.

Easy click videos to make for youtubers in the business of "GW is evil", though.

Some of the comments here are wild. The analyst is not guessing at the reason for a downgrade. He is the one who downgraded the stock. He is giving the stock a downgrade and then telling you why he did it. The market is reacting to his downgrade.

You can disagree with the analyst, but acting like he is just grasping at straws borders on insanity when he is the one who downgraded the stock.

Yeah, but you have to keep in mind that thses comments are mostly.coming from the "defend gw at all cost" crowd

Analyst does his job, analyzes stock and downgrades BASED ON FAN DISPUTE.

Posters in this thread- The stock could be downgraded for any reason what does this guy know??????

I honestly think this may be the best example of wishful thinking I have ever seen on the internet, and that is a big statement.

I choose to not understand the stock market, convinced it’s all smoke and mirrors and just a way for the rich to get richer.

Several studies have shown that ever world renowned fund managers actually don’t do better or worse than a computer programmed to buy and sell stocks at random. So nobody is ever going to convinced me that anyone involved at any level actually knows what they’re talking about.

It’s cool. They’ll raise prices and hire a team to spend 6 hours a day googling and prowling the internet for cease and desists to hand out.

Honestly what made 40k and fantasy amazing was that for a time the setting belonged to the fans. It was our special sand box to do what we wanted, convert what we wanted, even encouraging us to jerry rig minis and providing low cost solutions. The company has taken that away because it’s not as profitable to let us have the setting. I’m glad there’s an attempt to take it back by the fan base. GW was never meant to become Disney.

So triple figure prices for individual models can't motivate people to action against GW's bottom line, but interfere with a youtube channeln that DOESN'T AFFECT THE STATE OF THE GAME OR PRICE OF THE GAME AT ALL gets you galvanized to action?!?!?!?! Speaks SO much about the current player base...

Eh, GW's been on a roll through the pandemic, insane growth can't last forever.

Between 3D printing, 9E, increasing prices and getting back out of the house again, I think its high time that the GW stock had a correction.

Anyways, I've moved on from GW after seeing the gorgeous minis folks are making available for 3D printing - and I mean stuff that has nothing to do with GW's games.

 Stormonu wrote:
Eh, GW's been on a roll through the pandemic, insane growth can't last forever.

Be careful, you're gonna give the Shareholders a heart attack.

 Just Tony wrote:
So triple figure prices for individual models can't motivate people to action against GW's bottom line, but interfere with a youtube channeln that DOESN'T AFFECT THE STATE OF THE GAME OR PRICE OF THE GAME AT ALL gets you galvanized to action?!?!?!?! Speaks SO much about the current player base...

I think most people would think overly aggressive IP protection is morally more dubious than setting the price of a product higher than you might think it’s worth.

 streetsamurai wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There’s a boycott on?

There was, until GW revealed- well, literally anything new, at which point the fanbase's horrific lack of impulse control kicked in.

Any boycott of people who weren't already not buying GW products would never last longer than the Black Templar reveal.

Indeed, i dont expect this boycott to last long

Factor in how GW prey upon Fear Of Missing Out on the products as well. That I think is the biggest thing that GW can do to undermine any attempt at a boycott.

Boycotting a product that is likely to be around for a while, sure... can always pick it up once the boycott had achieved its aim, but a limited product that scalpers are going to Jack up up price in the second hand market... that just too risky for some folk who need there GW fix.

 Just Tony wrote:
So triple figure prices for individual models can't motivate people to action against GW's bottom line, but interfere with a youtube channeln that DOESN'T AFFECT THE STATE OF THE GAME OR PRICE OF THE GAME AT ALL gets you galvanized to action?!?!?!?! Speaks SO much about the current player base...

Especially when GW haven't even done any of that "aggressive IP protection where they'll cease and desist everything" sort of stuff that some keep claiming. The whole appears to be the result of misinformation (seemingly in an attempt to try to find any reason to say GW is bad) or misunderstanding what's actually been going on.

For example the guidelines saying things like animations aren't allowed is something that has been there for the past 5 years at least.