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'Stranger in a Strange Land' is an... interesting... episode title, given where he ends up in the flashbacks and also the present.
(See the Heinlein book of the same name if you want the implications here)

If this turns into a Lawrence of Arabia thing, I'm going to spit.

Gotta say, the string of circumstances has me straining the edge of disbelief already, and the duo in the present day seem... under-armed... for walking around in their current circumstances.

Definitely not impressed yet, but still willing to poke at it.

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The mayor's assistant also struck me as a familiar actor, but couldn't put a name on him.

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I liked how the Majordomo’s physical expressions were close to Bib Fortuna’s in ROTJ.

Not identical, but close enough to possibly be a formal thing, or just a Twi’lek species thing.

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As I saw from one review: "The Pamphlet of Boba Fett". God... that was scarcely 2 acts worth of plot. The show ended half-way through a flashback!!!

This might be a "wait until it's finished" show if they're doing the "don't show or tell" route.


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Depends on how long they drag out the Dances With Massiffs thing or if that lasts the whole season.

 
   
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Calling it now by the way:

Fennec betrays him. Maybe because he's doing it wrong, maybe to 'save his life.'
But mostly because foxes are tricky.

So sudden but inevitable betrayal is in the cards.

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Depends on how long they drag out the Dances With Massiffs thing or if that lasts the whole season.

Yeesh, good call. This one is really wearing its influences on its sleeves, isn't it?

I wonder how many Godfather references will be in the conference room episode (from the trailer)?

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Oh my god I want him to have a Loth-Cat on his lap.

 
   
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Interesting observation.

Super buff topless Twi’lek dude had ear horns, rather than ears. Which is a physical trait of lady Twi’leks.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting observation.

Super buff topless Twi’lek dude had ear horns, rather than ears. Which is a physical trait of lady Twi’leks.


I noticed that. Didn’t pause or rewind but I tried and failed to tell if those were the ears or if they were just covers.

 
   
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Just watched the first episode. Eh, it was ok I suppose.

I like that it has the same visual language and look as the Mandalorian, but I’d prefer to have had another season of that over what this was.

I’m not really sure what was wrong, but this just didn’t really grab me.

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 AduroT wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting observation.

Super buff topless Twi’lek dude had ear horns, rather than ears. Which is a physical trait of lady Twi’leks.


I noticed that. Didn’t pause or rewind but I tried and failed to tell if those were the ears or if they were just covers.


Just rechecked he has a head dress with cones over the ears but you don't see his actual ears so it doesn't go against previous male Twi'lek designs.

I think this might be a series best watched in 1 sitting not a bad start and got a few questions cleared up early on but it probably needed a double episode to start. Boba needs better Gamorrean guards! (not that they were ever very competent)

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On the wider scenes shown?

Remember, this is mainstream. Not everyone tuning in a going to be as familiar with Boba as Us Nerds.

Showing his earl days, his escape from the Sarlacc early, and showing off Jawas, Sand People and Sand Puppers is necessary for less knowledgeable viewers helps to establish exactly who Boba is.


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Also?

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With Mando taking place 9ABY, which is approx 5 years after Endor.

Now. We know for sure Boba was out and about when Mando encountered Shennec.

But what we don’t currently know how long Boba was in the Sarlacc.

My take is that it perhaps wasn’t all that long. Rationale here is we see Jawas rocking up at the sight, to do what Jawas do. Given how notorious Jabba was, whilst folk finding out what happened to him outside his Court may not be immediate? It would be pretty quick, especially as we can assume Bib Fortuna would’ve made his claim fairly quickly.

Certainly I don’t think we’re seeing him emerging, earning respect of the Sand People, grabbing some gear then finding the critically wounded Fennec.

Now….the Sheriff bloke from Mando S2? He’s actually mentioned in the first Aftermath novel. I’ll need to read that again to be sure, but apparently him trading for Boba’s armour was days after Endor/Sarlacc battles.

So…….what was Boba up to in the intervening years?

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I’m not a huge Star Wars fan, but I like it well enough. I’ve seen all the live action films, and the Mandalorian. I’ve not read any of the books or watched the animated stuff etc, so I guess I’m a fairly casual fan, so can someone clear up the timeline a bit?

Boba Fett is a child in Attack of the Clones, around maybe 10 years old or so at a guess, and Revenge of the Sith is set what, 2 or 3 years later, making him about 13 when Luke and Leia were born, so about the same age as Han Solo given that Harrison Ford is 9 years older than Mark Hamill and 14 years older than Carrie Fisher.

So why does Boba Fett look like he’s in his 60s when he should be around 35-40 in Return of the Jedi and the Mandalorian (5 years later). If anything Boba Fett should be younger than Mando?
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On the wider scenes shown?

Remember, this is mainstream. Not everyone tuning in a going to be as familiar with Boba as Us Nerds.

Showing his earl days, his escape from the Sarlacc early, and showing off Jawas, Sand People and Sand Puppers is necessary for less knowledgeable viewers helps to establish exactly who Boba is.


I couldn't disagree with you more here. Jawas and Tuskens have frog-all to do with the story of who Boba Fett is. They're there because 'member Star Wars?'
He could have scavenged a skiff, walked or jetpacked out of the desert in his flashback and it would have moved on just as well. And I would've much rather had vague, disjointed dreams of heat exhaustion rather than a... stormtrooper tube , wall punching and somehow digging a reverse hole as the 'explanation' of the Sarlacc escape. Not least because it now requires an explanation of why he isn't dead of exposure. Or wounds. Or exhaustion. Or more exposure. Or lack of food/water. Or beatings. Or... well, its all a bit much.

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Honestly, for brand new or less knowledgeable viewers, I don't know why they'd care about anything this first episode presents. They probably have very pointed questions about who he took over from (and how), and why he's still wounded from his flashbacks (yes, they're probably present day wounds, but the episode makes no effort to explain what his injuries are or how he got them). Also why any of it matters. Apart from a few name drops, there's not much of anything for the 'less knowledgeable' to latch on to. New crime boss is somehow entrenched, but completely naive. The end.

Anyone who doesn't know RotJ backwards and forwards, doesn't know anything about the old EU and hasn't watched (or rewatched) the Mando probably doesn't feel all that welcome.

Aash wrote:So why does Boba Fett look like he’s in his 60s when he should be around 35-40 in Return of the Jedi and the Mandalorian (5 years later). If anything Boba Fett should be younger than Mando?

They'd be about the same age- Mando was orphaned by the clone wars (ie, when Boba was about 10), and was probably 5-10 when that happened.

But as for looking 60? I don't think he does, particularly. But between the digestive juices, raw exposure to desert planet wind and suns (passed out or tied up), being put to work while malnourished and beaten and so on, I wouldn't expect him to look like a spring chicken.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Voss.

PM me when you actually enjoy something, yeah?


I enjoy lots of things. But they actually have to be good.
(Off the top of my head- She-ra (reboot, obviously), Raya, Shang-Chi)


But don't throw a hissy at me because I don't like things you like. Feel free to disagree with me, but I'd really like to see actual reasons why you think Jawas and Tuskens are important to the story of Boba Fett (either the crime boss or the bounty hunter), or what new viewers have to latch onto with this first episode. You put forth a theory that the early days are important for less knowledgeable viewers- back it up with... something. Because what I saw requires a pretty hefty knowledge base and explains very little.

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A reverse hole? You mean a tunnel...

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Voss wrote:


Aash wrote:So why does Boba Fett look like he’s in his 60s when he should be around 35-40 in Return of the Jedi and the Mandalorian (5 years later). If anything Boba Fett should be younger than Mando?

They'd be about the same age- Mando was orphaned by the clone wars (ie, when Boba was about 10), and was probably 5-10 when that happened.

But as for looking 60? I don't think he does, particularly. But between the digestive juices, raw exposure to desert planet wind and suns (passed out or tied up), being put to work while malnourished and beaten and so on, I wouldn't expect him to look like a spring chicken.


Maybe, but I’d expect Boba Fett in this era to look like Jango Fett did in Attack of the Clones. Especially given that it’s the same actor, and he was age appropriate in attack of the clones and is in his 60s now, they should have either recast the role, or de-aged the actor. (Or I suppose they could have set it around the time of the sequel trilogy so the actor was the right age for the character).
   
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If they need to, I think they can just explain away any age discrepancy by “clone problems”.

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 Jadenim wrote:
If they need to, I think they can just explain away any age discrepancy by “clone problems”.


He isn't like the other clones though, he was a perfect clone that does not age like the other clones.


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EU handled Boba Fett wildly better even if he was ultimately no more than a Man With No Name knockoff that later became "the bestest Mandalorian ever". The show has the same issue that The Mandalorian had at times. It looks cheap. I don't know how or why, but even 90's scifi generally didn't look this cheap even with rubber forehead aliens.

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it's passable with a strong hint of memberberries, but in the streaming age passable isn't enough

and like Mando I'm surprised The Mouse sprang for live action when animated would be cheaper and good enough

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Well, that premiere episode was mediocre. Hopefully the next one will be better...

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 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
A reverse hole? You mean a tunnel...


Nope. A tunnel has some structure to it, and will actually remain a passage.

Reverse hole is admittedly a terrible term, but digging up? Into sand? Its just stuff collapsing on you. The 'walls' aren't going to keep any sort of integrity. A depression might form at the top, and a really strong digger might get somewhere, but just a human guy that spent some amount of time being digested? Its not going to go well.

It certainly isn't going to work like frikkin Terraria, mining out of the 'evil biome' into the desert biome, and climbing out on sand blocks.

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Yup. You did vertically through sand and you're just treading it.

I think I'm more interested in Ming Na Wen's character than Boba. Even when just acting like an angry bitch, she's a better actress. Morrison has a very limited range and is best with quick simple lines in the helmet as I don't he is capable of much more. She is but is purposefully limited herself as the role calls for it and still pulls it off better IMO.

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 warboss wrote:
Well, that premiere episode was mediocre. Hopefully the next one will be better...
I think it's unfair to call it mediocre given that, based upon its structure, we've only seen the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the episode.

Sure, Disney may call it "Chapter One", but, there's no way what we saw was a full episode.

Right... ?

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Hey, the main action sequence was almost longer than the credits. That... probably counts for something.

And they talked to, like... 6 people. (Sort of). And went for a walk.

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Golly.

Am I unsatisfied because I want more? Or because I didn’t get enough?

The name and image of Boba Fett has floated around in pop culture for decades but to be honest there has never been much character there until the second season of The Mandalorian. Now that Boba is the protagonist of his own show, it’s important to actually give him some personality, starting with some brief flashes of Kamino and Geonosis from Attack of the Clones before striking out into the story of what happened to him between Return of the Jedi and “now” — so to speak.

I wasn’t initially sold on the idea of non-sequential exposition until I realized that establishing Boba’s personality is a pretty steep challenge. The pop culture iconography of Boba Fett is all about one-note badassery. Does that make for a interesting protagonist? Maybe for a one-and-done short but not for a whole season of a show. In the intercut time sequences, we see that Boba is more complex. He is restrained, not prone to losing his temper or lashing out. He’s not arrogant and he’s certainly not invincible. Surprisingly, he is actually pretty good-natured.

The overall impression I have of him is that he’s patient, thoughtful, and calculating. It’s not just that he doesn’t mind being underestimated; that seems to be his strategy, both as a hostage to the Sand People and as the new strong man in Mos Espa. The structure of the episode unquestionably asks us to think about the parallel here. Is Boba a fish out of water just winging it from moment to moment — or is the hunter baiting a masterful trap for the prey he has carefully cultivated to be unwary?

An interesting question to be sure but somehow the opening episode posed it in a frustrating way. I could carefully sift through the structure beat by beat but my instinct is, it’s the Mos Espa action sequence. The antagonists‘ strange cattle prod/energy shield weaponry make the stakes confusing. Do they want to assassinate Boba? Capture him? Just humiliate him? The scene shows our main characters caught off guard — but why? And then the fight shows us Boba trying thing after thing, none of which really work, until he’s flat on his ass. At which point, Fennec takes over solo and there is a much more dynamic chase scene where she seems (puzzlingly? tellingly?) much more competent alone.

Fortunately, Boba gets to shine in the second major action sequence in his next dream flashback. But the parallel tracks of the story feel unbalanced. In the earlier timeframe, shown later, Boba does better (in a more clearly defined scene), than the later timeline that was shown earlier. Narratively, this is not a satisfying or even coherent arc. It’s backwards, or inside-out. We learned some interesting things about Boba but what did Boba himself learn? And then the episode just ends during the flashback, underscoring that not only have neither plot track resolved but also that they haven’t really connected properly.

It’s not so much that we got half an episode. It’s more like we got two-thirds of an episode; two acts of a three-act story. So I have to conclude that I am unsatisfied more because I didn’t get enough. But nevertheless this first episode has also left me wanting mode. It did set up Boba as a complex and compelling character: not just “a simple man trying to make his way through the galaxy” like his father Jango, but a man of subtle depth. And both Mos Espa and the Tusken culture are very promising in terms of mystery and adventure.

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 Lance845 wrote:
I liked the lizard man centaur monster.

I kinda want to know if they were gathering its eggs, and the kid knew that they might run into one, or if the ecology of Tatooine is so weird that is just spontaneously manifests fragile shells filled with just plain water for no apparent reason.
Just... have a passing background shot with someone through eggs and bugs into a still and getting some water out the other end, not just cracking open fresh water sand gourds. It doesn't need to have a comment or any attention drawn to it. Just... not random six packs in the sand and homesteads with a frikkin' water fountain in the front yard.

But the show definitely needs an old man yelling 'Unleash the Kraken!' at some point. Maybe the Tusken can build a fake one and have a parade in the next flashback.

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