Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 13:22:40
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Posts with Authority
|
Caestus Assault Ram is back baby! As is my recently aquired DKoK Centaur, so this makes me smile.
All the BSF models getting rules for 10th is also appreciated (I have all of them), this is probably because the new boardgame will come out soon with Janus Draik & co + an Ambull. I will surely buy that silly lil boardgame now, just to get doubles of those models.
All in all, I'm pleasantly surprised
|
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 13:26:59
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
UK
|
Nice to see I can field my Centaur assault carriers…annoying to see Grenadiers no longer available in squads of 5. Just what the hell am I supposed to put in the Centaurs. 🤷🏻♂️
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 13:40:10
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Servoarm Flailing Magos
|
tauist wrote:Caestus Assault Ram is back baby! As is my recently aquired DKoK Centaur, so this makes me smile.
All the BSF models getting rules for 10th is also appreciated (I have all of them), this is probably because the new boardgame will come out soon with Janus Draik & co + an Ambull. I will surely buy that silly lil boardgame now, just to get doubles of those models.
All in all, I'm pleasantly surprised
If you haven't caught it in the boardgame thread: Thalia, a german bookstore chain, carries the boardgames and does shipping to Scandinavia for 9€ shipping & handling. Might be of interest to you  Lots of payment options on their webstore, too.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 13:41:21
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
|
Gert wrote: ArcaneHorror wrote:Having Cor'bax Utterblight be used as a regular Daemon Prince makes little sense as he's much bigger.
The Ruinstorm one? Wider sure but he's a big slug boy. Height wise he's probably about the same as the newer Prince kit which is about 12cm tall.
From that, I'd put him at a little over 2 Space Marines tall which sits pretty close to the new Prince. The bigger difference is that Cor'Bax is long because he's all slug-like.
Thanks, that picture puts it into better perspective. In other pictures, he had looked more GUO-sized. Automatically Appended Next Post: tauist wrote:Caestus Assault Ram is back baby! As is my recently aquired DKoK Centaur, so this makes me smile.
All the BSF models getting rules for 10th is also appreciated (I have all of them), this is probably because the new boardgame will come out soon with Janus Draik & co + an Ambull. I will surely buy that silly lil boardgame now, just to get doubles of those models.
All in all, I'm pleasantly surprised
Which board game are you talking about? Is it a new BSF or something else?
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/07/21 13:42:45
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 13:45:17
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Preparing the Invasion of Terra
|
ArcaneHorror wrote:Thanks, that picture puts it into better perspective. In other pictures, he had looked more GUO-sized.
To be fair GUOs are pretty short anyway. The other Greater Daemons are either big muscles or long limbs. GUOs are the short kings of the lineup.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 13:47:14
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Servoarm Flailing Magos
|
ArcaneHorror wrote: Gert wrote: ArcaneHorror wrote:Having Cor'bax Utterblight be used as a regular Daemon Prince makes little sense as he's much bigger.
The Ruinstorm one? Wider sure but he's a big slug boy. Height wise he's probably about the same as the newer Prince kit which is about 12cm tall.
From that, I'd put him at a little over 2 Space Marines tall which sits pretty close to the new Prince. The bigger difference is that Cor'Bax is long because he's all slug-like.
Thanks, that picture puts it into better perspective. In other pictures, he had looked more GUO-sized.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
tauist wrote:Caestus Assault Ram is back baby! As is my recently aquired DKoK Centaur, so this makes me smile.
All the BSF models getting rules for 10th is also appreciated (I have all of them), this is probably because the new boardgame will come out soon with Janus Draik & co + an Ambull. I will surely buy that silly lil boardgame now, just to get doubles of those models.
All in all, I'm pleasantly surprised
Which board game are you talking about? Is it a new BSF or something else?
There will be a new 'Combat Arena' boardgame with the BSF characters and the Ambull called Lair of the Beast, but it will only be available in Germany and the US, distributed mostly by bookstores.
Here's the thread if you are interested: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/810836.page
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/07/21 13:49:23
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 13:51:29
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
UK
|
They’ve confirmed on social media that none of these Legend units will be added to the app, which is a real shame.
GW seem determined to not take easy wins like that, it’s baffling. They should be doing everything they can to make that app the go to place for any and all 40K rules and points, if nothing else but to drive subscribers when it eventually goes back to a paid subscription.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 13:53:41
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
|
Tsagualsa wrote: ArcaneHorror wrote: Gert wrote: ArcaneHorror wrote:Having Cor'bax Utterblight be used as a regular Daemon Prince makes little sense as he's much bigger.
The Ruinstorm one? Wider sure but he's a big slug boy. Height wise he's probably about the same as the newer Prince kit which is about 12cm tall.
From that, I'd put him at a little over 2 Space Marines tall which sits pretty close to the new Prince. The bigger difference is that Cor'Bax is long because he's all slug-like.
Thanks, that picture puts it into better perspective. In other pictures, he had looked more GUO-sized.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
tauist wrote:Caestus Assault Ram is back baby! As is my recently aquired DKoK Centaur, so this makes me smile.
All the BSF models getting rules for 10th is also appreciated (I have all of them), this is probably because the new boardgame will come out soon with Janus Draik & co + an Ambull. I will surely buy that silly lil boardgame now, just to get doubles of those models.
All in all, I'm pleasantly surprised
Which board game are you talking about? Is it a new BSF or something else?
There will be a new 'Combat Arena' boardgame with the BSF characters and the Ambull called Lair of the Beast, but it will only be available in Germany and the US, distributed mostly by bookstores.
Here's the thread if you are interested: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/810836.page
Awesome. I've wanted to make the Ambull into a Nurgle prince for a while now but couldn't because I couldn't find the model for a reasonable price.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 14:38:50
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Been Around the Block
|
General Kroll wrote:They’ve confirmed on social media that none of these Legend units will be added to the app, which is a real shame.
GW seem determined to not take easy wins like that, it’s baffling. They should be doing everything they can to make that app the go to place for any and all 40K rules and points, if nothing else but to drive subscribers when it eventually goes back to a paid subscription.
If Legends are going to be excluded from tournaments then it makes sense to exclude them from the app to prevent confusion. They could have a seperate "legends" section, but then if they are going to do that why not have them as valid units anyway?
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 14:52:29
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
|
ERJAK wrote:It's insanely better than anything else in the SoB index.
Friend of mine has about 4 Repressors. He's quite happy about these rules.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 14:52:35
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
|
bobthe4th wrote: General Kroll wrote:They’ve confirmed on social media that none of these Legend units will be added to the app, which is a real shame.
GW seem determined to not take easy wins like that, it’s baffling. They should be doing everything they can to make that app the go to place for any and all 40K rules and points, if nothing else but to drive subscribers when it eventually goes back to a paid subscription.
If Legends are going to be excluded from tournaments then it makes sense to exclude them from the app to prevent confusion. They could have a seperate "legends" section, but then if they are going to do that why not have them as valid units anyway?
Seems like it should not be too hard to have a “show/hide legends” toggle in the app so they are there for those who want them.
But it’s really just a bone tossed to legacy players to keep us happy with our old collections. Can’t expect too much support.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 15:09:35
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Lesser Daemon of Chaos
|
I can bring fething old FW models that haven't been produced in like 20 years but still no Jumpack lords who had model last fething year!!!!!
feth this company
|
"I prayed to that corpse for a millenia with no response, what makes you think he'll answer you?"
2000 Loki Snaketongue and the Serpents of Malice |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 15:40:10
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Infiltrating Broodlord
|
If they want people to really accept that there is a difference between "tournament legal" and "you can use this for pickup games in stores and in gaming groups" then not including any of these units in the apps is an *fantastic* way of undermining that message.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 16:40:14
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
UK
|
The Phazer wrote:If they want people to really accept that there is a difference between "tournament legal" and "you can use this for pickup games in stores and in gaming groups" then not including any of these units in the apps is an *fantastic* way of undermining that message.
It discourages people for using them, or it discourages people from using the app. I don’t play tournaments and will never play in a tournament. But I would like to easily put lists together using an all in one app. They’re close to having a useful app, this undermines that completely.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 16:46:53
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Using Object Source Lighting
|
Right when can we have the Zoat actual mini back then?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 16:48:07
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Servoarm Flailing Magos
|
If we're lucky it will get rolled out in another Combat Arena boardgame next year, for selected markets.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 19:51:22
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
|
So this is interesting: guard artillery units, even ones which have direct equivalents in the index, do not have the Heavy rule on their guns. Basilisk gets it, Earthshaker platform doesn't. Incoming artillery nerf preview?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 20:23:01
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Servoarm Flailing Magos
|
ThePaintingOwl wrote:So this is interesting: guard artillery units, even ones which have direct equivalents in the index, do not have the Heavy rule on their guns. Basilisk gets it, Earthshaker platform doesn't. Incoming artillery nerf preview?
The Earthshaker Platform et al literally cannot move, so they don't need [Heavy], because they always remain stationary anyway, the bonus can just directly be incorporated in the statlines.
Other than that, you seem to be onto something, the Heavy Mortar from the HM Battery gets it, but the Dominus, the Medusa and the Griffon don't. Seems like they axed the combination of Heavy and Indirect Fire for the most part.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/07/21 20:27:28
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 20:34:56
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
|
Tsagualsa wrote:The Earthshaker Platform et al literally cannot move, so they don't need [Heavy], because they always remain stationary anyway, the bonus can just directly be incorporated in the statlines.
The carriage version ( FW index) can't move but it still has Heavy.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 21:05:36
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Servoarm Flailing Magos
|
ThePaintingOwl wrote:Tsagualsa wrote:The Earthshaker Platform et al literally cannot move, so they don't need [Heavy], because they always remain stationary anyway, the bonus can just directly be incorporated in the statlines.
The carriage version ( FW index) can't move but it still has Heavy.
Interesting, but it still might be just a copy/paste error. However, other stuff like the aformentioned Griffon etc. point to it being intentional at least in some cases.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 21:37:14
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
2nd Lieutenant
|
Being honest the odds of this document being riddled with errors because they can't be bothered to proof read is higher than the main ones, and those already had enough errors.
At best something being intentional rather than lazy is at best 50 / 50.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/07/21 21:37:58
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/21 21:51:40
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Rogue Psyker can't join Traitor guard. That figures.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/22 00:17:05
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
|
The Thousand Sons actually gained access to a non-psyker character (Chaos Lord on Disc). That feels... wrong.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/22 00:19:38
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Battleship Captain
The Land of the Rising Sun
|
I'm surprised by the amount of old units present. I thought GW was going to give us a few old special characters, and call it a day.
M. Automatically Appended Next Post: General Kroll wrote:Nice to see I can field my Centaur assault carriers…annoying to see Grenadiers no longer available in squads of 5. Just what the hell am I supposed to put in the Centaurs. 🤷🏻♂️
It's legends stuff, so take them in a squad of 5 as before after telling your opponent. I don't think anybody that doesn't have a problem playing legends wouldn't allow it.
M.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/07/22 00:26:39
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though." |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/22 01:26:16
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
|
Gert wrote:Genuinely shocked that a bunch of R&H units got put into CSM.
Hmmm.....good for someone looking to build an "all mortals" Chaos army, no? Personally, still prefer the HH Militia list for that, but this seems right up your alley Gert.
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Tsagualsa wrote:Genuinely surprised they added rules for the Dominus Heavy Siege Bombard, that never got around to having a model in the first place.
But no rules for a Chaos Lord with Jump Pack, something that 100% had a model.
2x210 wrote:I can bring fething old FW models that haven't been produced in like 20 years but still no Jumpack lords who had model last fething year!!!!!
feth this company
Yup. Just another reason for me to ignore 10th edition.. .....
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/22 02:57:36
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
|
ThePaintingOwl wrote:So this is interesting: guard artillery units, even ones which have direct equivalents in the index, do not have the Heavy rule on their guns. Basilisk gets it, Earthshaker platform doesn't. Incoming artillery nerf preview?
Given how expertly crafted the rest of these documents are, there's a fairly even chance that whoever wrote them didn't know what rules the other artillery had.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/22 09:50:43
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
|
oh hello, the mutoid vermin have been stripped of their requirement of having Gellarpox infected, AND can be taken in DG armies
Which means I can finally have the Death Guard army I wanted since the Gellarpox came out: power armoured Plague Marines advancing behind a wave of vermin!
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/22 10:02:14
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Posts with Authority
|
Tsagualsa wrote: tauist wrote:Caestus Assault Ram is back baby! As is my recently aquired DKoK Centaur, so this makes me smile.
All the BSF models getting rules for 10th is also appreciated (I have all of them), this is probably because the new boardgame will come out soon with Janus Draik & co + an Ambull. I will surely buy that silly lil boardgame now, just to get doubles of those models.
All in all, I'm pleasantly surprised
If you haven't caught it in the boardgame thread: Thalia, a german bookstore chain, carries the boardgames and does shipping to Scandinavia for 9€ shipping & handling. Might be of interest to you  Lots of payment options on their webstore, too.
Awesome! Much obliged for the headsup
|
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/22 11:49:58
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
|
it's honestly laughable when you compare where R&H legends ended up and then look at 30k and the militia list.
Both are free btw
|
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/07/22 12:13:02
Subject: Warhammer 40k Legend Rules
|
 |
Not as Good as a Minion
|
so we get an official "count as" list for units that don't have rules any more and which current unit they fit best
so good news for everyone who owns the old Marneus Calgar model and thought they don't need to buy the new one, your model is officially a SM Captain now and not Marneus Clagar any more
|
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
|
 |
 |
|