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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 05:21:10
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Melissia wrote:Which in my experience gets beaten by a squad of Sisters with flamer, heavy flamer, combiflamer in a ForgeWorld rhino (192 pts) 
Which in turn gets mowed over by 4 Thousand Sons, and 1 Aspiring Sorc with the Bolt of Change.
177 pts
Don't know why, but that post kinda egged me on next to your avatar of that smirking sister....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 05:22:27
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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That would require they pop the rhino and survive the turn of rapid fire shooting that comes afterwards (Because they cannot kill the rhino and the squad in the same turn via shooting).
Also? Post points cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 05:26:25
Subject: Re:Beat this unit!
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True, though if they popped your rhino when your farther than 18 inches away, you wouldn't have a chance.
Edited points into the post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 05:32:50
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Wouldn't exactly be hard to get in range. Pop smoke when just outside of Bolt of Change range, and the squad would find it nigh-impossible to kill the rhino. Next game turn, the Sisters get out, position one heavy flamer and two flamer templates to cover the entire five man squad, and then bolter spam with Divine Guidance..
Those 1k sons? They're pretty much fethed. 2 flamers, 1 heavy flamer, and 18 bolter rounds (at bs4, about twelve hits)... quite a bit of damage in one turn on a five wound squad.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 05:34:56
Subject: Re:Beat this unit!
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Ok, had a bit of a mis-information going on there, but.....
Too true, however, your forgetting that, while beleive you me I have a healthy respect for flamers, I still get my armor save. Lets say, due to armor saves, I save 3 of my 1k sons. one rapid fire later, and you just lost 3-4 sisters. To shoot me with those flamers you have to walk up to me in the open, while I can be in cover ignoring your bolter fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 05:37:41
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Well, it's hard for a squad with so few wounds to survive bolter and flamer spam no matter who does it, nevermind Sisters, whom do it best...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/05/20 05:37:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 05:42:25
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Melissia wrote:Well, it's hard for a squad with so few wounds to survive bolter and flamer spam no matter who does it, nevermind Sisters, whom do it best...
I giggled.
I was hoping to edit my post before you saw it, but I failed, so you might want to look at it again.
Really want to play you now, partly because I have been looking forward to play someone who isn't the Guard or Eldar, partly for the fluff reasons, but mostly just because you seem like someone who would be a hell of a blast to play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 05:45:16
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Ask any terminator user, you should know that good saves always fail when you need them most
Meanwhile, as Guard players know, BAD saves succeed when they're least likely to...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 05:48:03
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Melissia wrote:Ask any terminator user, you should know that good saves always fail when you need them most
Meanwhile, as Guard players know, BAD saves succeed when they're least likely to...
Can't argue with that.
Well anyway, should I try again, or do you want to post something to kill the 1K sons?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:03:14
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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3 Obliterators- 215 Automatically Appended Next Post: Melissia wrote:Well, it's hard for a squad with so few wounds to survive bolter and flamer spam no matter who does it, nevermind Sisters, whom do it best...
Actually Burna Boys do that best  But they dont look as good doing it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:10:20
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Also, Burna Boyz are more expensive, and less durable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:13:56
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
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But you can concentrate more flamers on the target. If there's one unit that sums up the idea of "overkill," it's 15 burna boyz screaming your way in a battlewagon. Consider any infantry in its path but a distant memory.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:13:57
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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But also higher T, WS, 2 attacks, and a power weapon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:17:08
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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But only if they don't use their burna as flamer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:18:54
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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Yep- usually the turn the use thier Waagh and run. lets them avoid other flamer units  But we're getting off topic
So- back to my 3 Obliterators- 215 pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:27:58
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Leman Russ Executioner w/Plasma Cannon sponsons
230 pts
Sure, the lascannons could possibly get through the AV14 front armor. But it's more likely that five plasma cannon blasts would wipe out the obliterators in one turn...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:31:23
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
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Eversor Assassin - 95 points
I don't think I need to explain how this one works...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:49:29
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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Fafnir wrote:Eversor Assassin - 95 points
I don't think I need to explain how this one works...
Vs the Oblits, or the Executioner?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:50:21
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
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Executioner. Although he'd do just fine against the oblits too... (okay, he'd probably die, but not before making a big mess)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 06:53:31
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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Dunno- if you dont go first your sucking 5 templates and the HB. Or 3 templates if it backs up out of charge range. Keep in mind the assassins aren't fleet...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 07:13:42
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
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Eversor has a 12" charge, fleet's got nothing on this guy (he does do cocaine, afterall). And besides, if you're going to pack an inquisitor in your army to unlock the guy, you'll probably taking an Emperor's tarot for kicks too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 07:33:44
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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This is unit on unit- no tarot :p
So its a coin toss, and that seems more like gambling than beating a unit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 07:35:24
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
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Either way, you can start in cover and still get that magical charge. 18 inches is huge, afterall. Although the doctor says that I might intimidate the ladies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 07:57:53
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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Fafnir wrote:Either way, you can start in cover and still get that magical charge. 18 inches is huge, afterall. Although the doctor says that I might intimidate the ladies.
Starting in terrain still means a Difficult terrain check- which has a good chance of bringing you up short.
And only a 40k player would equate assault radius with something huge and potentially intimidating.
So- its a coin toss for first turn- and then a coin toss for the potential difficult terrain check. Thats still gambling Vs a win.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 09:09:29
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Hammerhead, railgun, two burst cannons, muti-tracker, disruption pods - 165 (this is VS Executioner, because I agree that the Eversor probably isn't going to win that fight, considering the tank can just kite him and rape with plasma)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 12:05:57
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Emperor's Faithful wrote
- I would rather the Blood Angels have gone down the darker path of the Flesh Tearers than this new "Awesome Codex McBatnipples". *blegh*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 14:35:04
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Leman Russ Battle Tank, 150 pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 14:41:47
Subject: Re:Beat this unit!
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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Broadside Battle suit
2 shield drones
+1BS
110 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 16:06:37
Subject: Beat this unit!
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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People are getting so repetitive! I had ot check the date/post time to make sure I wasnt lookin at yesterdays posts :p
Vs the Broadside- Calidus Assassin 120 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/20 16:20:03
Subject: Re:Beat this unit!
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Not sure what the shiled drones do, and I can't look at my codex seeing as I'm at work. But
I do believe once again my host can take it.
Daemonhost
85pts Automatically Appended Next Post: Mistress of minis wrote:People are getting so repetitive! I had ot check the date/post time to make sure I wasnt lookin at yesterdays posts :p
Vs the Broadside- Calidus Assassin 120 pts
Beat me to it.
Man its hard not to get repetitive we all have our staple units lol.
And I got nothing for the assassin, I'm more assualty and at this point range she has most assualts. Even against my DE lords
I can't think of a shooty thing.
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