BLACKHAND'S 40K Skaven

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**BLACKHAND**

@Gitsplitta - Thanks!

@Tim the Biovore - Maybe not excessive...but still big

@Hyenajoe - I know, I tell you I can feel it!

@Tortured Robot - I know I know, sorry but I am stuck on the vehicles till the Hirst Arts moulds arrive in a container from overseas...it's frustrating me more then a little as well.

@Anung un Rama - He is pretty much for fun, in apoc games I figure I can run him as a Daemon Prince and in friendlies I hope to use him in a "traitor guard" list but I have no idea yeat if people will go for it.
I mainly just liked the verminlord image and wanted to build my version of it, I can't believe how goofy looking the GW verminlord is!

@seafox - I'll check it out now!

Cheers

BLACKHAND

**Darth Bob**

Absolutely love the Horned Rat. Another alternative for you to use him is perhaps a standin for An'ggrath the Unbound from Apocalypse.

I'm kind of stumped as to what you could use him as as far as normal 40k goes. :\

**LeBaron**

Wow, that's a damned good sculpt coming along there. Is he going to be stand alone or what?

**Commander Cain**

Looking great Blackhand! This should look great when it is finished.

**Captain Klaw**

nice gs'ing on the calves BLACKHAND

**BLACKHAND**

@darth bob - I don't have the Apoc book, I will have to check out my local club's copy ofr the character you mentioned.
I'm not too worried about what rules to use, he is just a ton of fun to build.

@Lebaron - Thanks!

@commander Cain - I hope so too, I'm leaning towards a dirty white look, kinda like a reanimated corpse.

@Captain Klaw - Was pretty worried that I would pull them off! I was worried they were too thin then I had a look at other hoofed animals and saw how thin the lower shin is on them, all the foot bones fused together into a thin column, very different from the mammalian foot structure.
I figure if they still don't work I can always add more GS, maybe some fur though I would like to stay clear of fur on the model as it won't fit with the undead flesh look I am going for.

I got some more work done on the tail, skull and glaive tonight. The big job was sculpting a lower jaw and finishing off the muzzle of the skull the rest were just minor fixes so I haven't taken pics..TBH I am hammered after a long week, Fathers Day is hell when you work in retail.

Cheers

BLACKHAND

**Tim the Biovore**

Excessive or nothing! *shakes fist*

But I guess what you whip up will be good enough.

**BLACKHAND**

Sorry people no real update tonight, between studying and Fathers Day I didn't get very far.

I am about as far along on the VerminLord as I can get without the horns that I hope to get of a friend, if that falls through I may just pick up a box of WFB Chaos Warriors and chop up a couple of heads. I have seen a pretty cool SM conversion using their legs so the box wouldn't be a total waste.
On the Rat Ogryn front I painted up the second one I converted finally and am currently bidding on an online auction for two of the Island of Blood Rat Ogres + master moulder. Hopefully I can get them and will have my Rat Ogryn squad done and dusted.
I also spent a bit of time clipping and sorting and have half a dozen Stormvermin with lasguns ready to be glued up and painted, so the weekend wasn't a total bust just no pictures.

Cheers

BLACKHAND

**Munch Munch!**

Awesome. How do you like the stormvermin kit?

**BLACKHAND**

LOVE the stormvermin kit!
Heaps of detail, extra bits and best of all the arms come separate to the bodies so they are perfect for what I am doing.

Like the new avatar BTW

**BLACKHAND**

Sorry readers no work done tonight! I have been reluctantly immersing myself in the workings of New Zealand's government for my "Intro to Law" paper.

I kind of feel like beating my head against a wall to unlearn everything I just read, nothing makes you feel older then learning how a parliament works..AND BEING INTERESTED!

But do not fear I am pushing hard to get through the papers as soon as possible so that I will have a few weeknights and the weekends free for modelling and painting.. oh yeah and spending time with the family (I keep forgetting that one

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Cheers

BLACKHAND

**manoknok**

Great idea to use Venom!

M

**BLACKHAND**

Thanks Manaknok!

I do have a question for everyone and I have seen the same issue rise up on other sculpting threads so I thought I would get the jump on it...

...Do I add a loincloth to the Verminlord or do I stick with a genderless lump on the groin.. I like the silhouette of the model as it is but he's not a superhero wearing a costume, he is a naked Rat Daemon so a loincloth is probably suitable.

What do you all think, To Loincloth or Not To Loincloth?

**manoknok**

I think teats...

make it female...like Sersi's daemons...and you will be on to a winner!

They have 12 teats btw.

Then the Skaven can feed on the Daemon Rat milk, which I guess could be warpstoneish in colour....

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I don't know if its a bit too grim dark...but you could have some babies popping out also...?

**Tim the Biovore**

Dude, what the feth? No one here has a female rat miniature fetish. Regardless of how cool you may think it would be, keep it to yourself.

**ghosty**

I do.

**BLACKHAND**

Possibly the creepiest image you could have put into my mind thanks Manaknok

Besides how is she supposed to kick arse with 12 rats hanging onto its teats?

**manoknok**

I don't know I was actually thinking she could be being milked...by something like this:

http://www.portablemilkers.com

The warpstoney goodness being fed through tubes to...some sort of vile weapon/skaven mouth/feeding bucket/spray gun...

There was a comic i read once...a long long time ago...will find the link....I probably read it too young.

**Tim the Biovore**

Hmm, I'm still confused, but I may have come off a bit harsh. But you must see my shock.

**manoknok**

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Herbert

In the City, the protagonist fights a giant mother rat with festering teats....

**BLACKHAND**

LOL, that is an idea for a totally different model...but I do have a spare chassis from the screaming bell kit that would be perfect for it.

I think we may have strayed from the original question of whether the MALE VerminLord should have a loincloth or not.

Oh and yes, you probably did read that comic too young

Edit : And don't ever worry about throwing up ideas on my blog guys they are all welcome,

thanks for keeping an eye on the content Tim but you are reading a blog written by a guy who was a funeral director at 17, not much grosses me out

**manoknok**

Haha...sorry. But I will hold you to that other model...(will also try find you a pic)...

As for the loincloth...yes...unless you wanted to also use some portable milki...

I'll just stop there.

**Tim the Biovore**

OK, yes to loincloth.

Hmm, Skavanid Tervigon?

**Saintspirit**

It doesn't appear to have one on the illustration... Nor do the actual vermin lord model have one (though that model is uglier than the old slann), there is just fur.
But what are you gonna use it as? IG have no MC, do they?

**BLACKHAND**

HAHA, Skavenids! awesome!

My god, rat swarms, mutated blade-armed rats the possibilites....

@saintspirit - thats part of the dilemma there is no loincloth in the pic, and daemons appear fully formed out of the warp, so there is no need for genitals (except the slaneesh daemons I guess) so I think I could get away without one. And no IG have no MCs, I will run him as a Daemon Prince in Apoc.

And yes Manaknok, you probably should stop there

I can't believe I am discussing the merits of covering imaginary Daemon genitals, its a strange world

**Saintspirit**

BLACKHAND wrote:@saintspirit - thats part of the dilemma there is no loincloth in the pic, and daemons appear fully formed out of the warp, so there is no need for genitals (except the slaneesh daemons I guess) so I think I could get away without one. And no IG have MCs, I will run him as a Daemon Prince in Apoc.

Ah, I see. That makes sense.

Hey Blackhand, look at you number of posts!

**BLACKHAND**

Freakin spooky, talking about daemons and up pops the number of the devil..must be a sign to call it a night!

**Tim the Biovore**

Or to embrace the power of the dark side........Just sayin'.

**manoknok**

That is pretty weird!

I'd go with the loincloth, unless you pull off a fur effect all over the body to hide the issue.

Last bit on 'mother rat'...the artist of the comic was one Ian Milller....who....did Realm of Chaos and 1st Ed. WH40K! (I'm not totally random-though I didn't know that a few moments ago).

Skavenids do sound pretty cool! Would fit a swarm army....,

**ghosty**

Didn't someone make a skaven brood mother or some such at one point?

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I wish I didn't google

Lots of nice pictures, making my loathing for rats decrease. Buggerit.

As for the loincloth, I'd say go for it, Even giant demi gods need to show some decency.