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scipio.au wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:

scipio.au wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:after the 2007 Chaos codex came out and said that everyone is a recently turned renegade and not a 10,000-year-old veteran still using ancient equipment like previously.

The new codex says that? Really? Where?

The army list.

Page number?

How about you guys start a separate thread for that particular discussion?

Anyway...

I hope the lack on any info about co-op campaign play doesn't mean we aren't getting any!

Been waiting forever for this game CAN'T WAIT!!!!

We are getting co-op. What, exactly, the co-op is has not yet been elaborated on. About three weeks until the game's released, they'll reveal it soon if they want to build up hype.

Melissia wrote:We are getting co-op. What, exactly, the co-op is has not yet been elaborated on. About three weeks until the game's released, they'll reveal it soon if they want to build up hype.

Right!

My concern is that it will just be the 'co-op' we've already been shown, or some slight variation thereof.

I'm hoping not though!

Alpharius wrote:Right!

My concern is that it will just be the 'co-op' we've already been shown, or some slight variation thereof.

I'm hoping not though!

Speculation is that it is a co-op survival mode. One of the earlier E3 trailers showed a handful of uniquely equipped Marines bursting from a Drop Pod, wasting Orks. Also, in a different trailer, there was a Carnifex being blasted by a Warlord Titan. While it is possible for Tyranids to be present in the campaign (especially since the Orks in Kill-Team had some Tyranids on their ship and Kill-Team is the precursor to Space Marine) many believe that the Carnifex was only in the trailer as a hint towards Tyranids being present in a co-op survival mode.

Alpharius wrote:

scipio.au wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:

scipio.au wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:after the 2007 Chaos codex came out and said that everyone is a recently turned renegade and not a 10,000-year-old veteran still using ancient equipment like previously.

The new codex says that? Really? Where?

The army list.

Page number?

How about you guys start a separate thread for that particular discussion?

Not really a discussion per se. I'm just after the page number. I'm also happy to have it PMed.

Anyway, until THQ actually let us know some useful info, we're all really just treading water here. I expect that the co-op will just be a bog-standard survival/horde mode, as seen in every second shooter that gets released these days. If they somehow manage(d) to make it something more substantial, I'll order a second copy for my wife to play alongside me. I've got to get my pre-order in sometime pretty soon as well, since I'm going for the extra MP skins - which I guess is less (read: not) important for my wife. - but I'd prefer to play the whole thing in co-op for the first playthrough if that's going to be an option.

So rumor is the game isn't going to have dedicated servers on the PC. Just cancelled my pre-order. Probably get it for my xbox now second hand as online play will be a wasted lag fest.

Nvs wrote:So rumor is the game isn't going to have dedicated servers on the PC. Just cancelled my pre-order. Probably get it for my xbox now second hand as online play will be a wasted lag fest.

this is the decision that indeed might prove to be a fail for the game. Lag is killing DoW2 Retribution.

I can't imagine 8v8 matches with no dedicated servers, but then again, I never played MW2.

SonicPara wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Right!

My concern is that it will just be the 'co-op' we've already been shown, or some slight variation thereof.

I'm hoping not though!

Speculation is that it is a co-op survival mode. One of the earlier E3 trailers showed a handful of uniquely equipped Marines bursting from a Drop Pod, wasting Orks. Also, in a different trailer, there was a Carnifex being blasted by a Warlord Titan. While it is possible for Tyranids to be present in the campaign (especially since the Orks in Kill-Team had some Tyranids on their ship and Kill-Team is the precursor to Space Marine) many believe that the Carnifex was only in the trailer as a hint towards Tyranids being present in a co-op survival mode.

I hope this is true, but I believe they stated in an interview they stated that you played as one of the 'handful of uniquely equipped Marines' in the SP campaign, before they switched it out for a unique, individual Space Marine, and then ultimately Creating Captain Titus. The horde mode would be great for Co-op I feel, and I hope they add it in, even if it is an Ork horde mode instead.

Also, the apparent 'no dedicated servers' sounds like a bad move. I don't pretend to be an expert on these things, but judging from feedback I've heard from other games, the lag from P2P is usually what kills the game. I feel THQ have done a great job on this game so far, seeing it flop like other games such as Brink would be a shame

Lots of interesting stuff here. Thanks to all the contributions, really useful. Have Xbox folks decided how you are going to organise finding people to play with on multiplayer? Personally, i decided to join a guild/clan/Chapter/whatever so that i've always got someone to play with 24/7. We are recruiting right now actually. If anyone wants to be mainly loyalist Marines then come along, the more people, the easier it will be to find someone to play with 24/7.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/389451.page

Demo coming on the 23rd to XBL and PC!
24th for PSN!

One day earlier for members of the Space Marine forum, and a week earlier for those who pre-ordered on Steam.

A bunch of multiplayer videos here: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?261946-Relicnews-Space-Marine-community-event-videos-%28mainly-Multiplayer%29!

New trailers:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-dark-warhammer-40-000/718990

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-dark-warhammer-40-000/719034?

Kanluwen wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:Chaos Space Marines with thunder hammers? Heresy!

CSM seem to get some kind of power maul.

Makes sense. I think the weapons used during the Great Crusade/Heresy were power maces, twin linked bolters, combi weapons, power fists and reaper autocannons.

Demo is available for Steam preorders!

daedalus-templarius wrote:Demo is available for Steam preorders!

Downloading now!

So, some demo impressions here
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?261941-Space-Marine-DEMO-Inbound!/page3

Sounds awesome. I can't wait until the 22nd.

Cool live streams of the demo... kind of zipped through them so as not to spoil it for myself. As a side note, I always pictured the chainsword (maybe due to the Cain novels) as something that is always on in battle as opposed to just revving when swung. The later definitely sounds more power efficient though. For the Emperor! and a greener Imperium!

warboss wrote:Cool live streams of the demo... kind of zipped through them so as not to spoil it for myself. As a side note, I always pictured the chainsword (maybe due to the Cain novels) as something that is always on in battle as opposed to just revving when swung. The later definitely sounds more power efficient though. For the Emperor! and a greener Imperium!

I'm sure the Imperium is big enough for both kinds. After all, there's been so many different models on the figures over the past 20-odd years....

I'm hoping there's at least an option for split screen co-op. Most of my gaming is done at a friend's house, staring at a 1080p projection screen with a bunch of married dudes one night a week. We call it Nerdfest.

Alkasyn wrote:
I can't imagine 8v8 matches with no dedicated servers, but then again, I never played MW2.

You obviously never played halo either, which has excellent p2p networking.

daedalus-templarius wrote:

Alkasyn wrote:
I can't imagine 8v8 matches with no dedicated servers, but then again, I never played MW2.

You obviously never played halo either, which has excellent p2p networking.

Can you get bad, laggy matches? Sure, especially if you're playing outside of your region's prime playing time (6pm-2am) as you'll get more international players who might get selected as host. Most console games (can't speak for PC games) that don't have dedicated servers do try and pick the best host for the group... there are ways of gaming the system (like getting a full team party in Gears of War 2 guarantees someone in your team is host) but it hasn't stopped me from playing 95% of the time because the rare problem is an exception rather than the rule.

Just stormed my way through the demo a couple of times. Boy, is that a good game so far. Simple and smashy, gore everywhere, weapons feel punchy and powerful, the jump pack is the most fun I had with a non gun piece of hardware since gravity gun in HL2. The pre-purchace was well worth it.

http://www.spacemarine.com/forums/topic/2859

Space Marine has already been modded ,and only the demo's out.

The modding community is clasping its hands with glee.

Damn, I was hoping Relic would pack the files in their usual format. This .oppc thing will have to be unraveled from scratch since no one bothered to mod Darksiders on the PC.

If I use my PC, can I play a buddy playing on his console version? <--- Console/PC noob question.

kronk wrote:If I use my PC, can I play a buddy playing on his console version? <--- Console/PC noob question.

Most likely not, sorry.



Does anyone know how the Space Marine forum members get the demo early? Do they email you a code to use on the xbox marketplace? What time will it be out (GMT)?

NoBaconz4You wrote:

kronk wrote:If I use my PC, can I play a buddy playing on his console version? <--- Console/PC noob question.

Most likely not, sorry.



Does anyone know how the Space Marine forum members get the demo early? Do they email you a code to use on the xbox marketplace? What time will it be out (GMT)?

The day early access is only for the PC demo, just like the week early access for steam preorderers. Sledgehammer (their forum master) said that they can't do a staggered release on xbox live/psn so no early access there.