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World Eaters have a lot more of a reason to have a lot more chaff along with them than the others as they've all gone mad. Perhaps other than Deathguard with zombies.

From the blurry pictures, I think there will either be a lot of Murder Cult units of enhanced cultists/aspirants or they're really digging into the fall of the War Hounds angle, and the less power armoured models are marines who have discarded their armour as it fell to wrack and ruin.

The skull is out of the bag!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/84x6ee1n9fIRAM73.jpg

Ups, sorry i didnt update the thread! I was on a summer trip

Ok, so there are some bad news, according to a leaker on eeddit. Dont know how trustworthy it is
https://twitter.com/40ktrasfondo/status/1567174352910655494?t=E5owDvYUjma3oh6F5fY_2w&s=19

Yeah that's been hot topic for a while...

Yeah, we can tell you've been on a summer trip alright

Seeing these rumors and the IG rumors I wonder if there knight be a wave 2 xoming eith 10th edition.

And of course a new codex for us to buy.

No Red Butchers...thought that was a shoe in for the new dex. How sad. Teeth of Khorne was a new one for me, never heard of them before. No idea how I missed that part of the lore for all these years lol. Would have liked to see them too, at least allow havocs and have a strat to upgrade.

So the Goliath bikers are on pre-order this weekend, and this is doing the rounds:



If only...

Incredibly anaemic looking release. The hope is that we're on the cusp on a new edition and that the next release will fill this out (not saying that's a good thing, btw, I'd just rather we didn't have such a gakky army), but WE may just end up like Thousand Sons, with an incredibly lacking roster. Clearly DG had actual fans as designers.

I think it's disgusting that the Death Guard got more releases than World Eaters for their respective codex releases.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So the Goliath bikers are on pre-order this weekend, and this is doing the rounds:



If only...

I like it! The asthetics definitely cross over. I suppose you can even reuse the goliath arm to give the rider the now not just Kharn sleeveless arm too.

 warboss wrote:
I think it's disgusting that the Death Guard got more releases than World Eaters for their respective codex releases.

And yet, a few pages back a bunch of people were fighting me over how much they preferred a TS-style release over a DG one...

At this point I think DG were a project of passion driven by some designers, while TS and WE are the business' attempt to replicate that success without passion.

 Jidmah wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I think it's disgusting that the Death Guard got more releases than World Eaters for their respective codex releases.

And yet, a few pages back a bunch of people were fighting me over how much they preferred a TS-style release over a DG one...

At this point I think DG were a project of passion driven by some designers, while TS and WE are the business' attempt to replicate that success without passion.

Start of edition forces tend to get bigger focus. WE should have been 10th ed starter for them to stand a chance to equal DG.

 blood reaper wrote:

Spoiler:

Incredibly anaemic looking release. The hope is that we're on the cusp on a new edition and that the next release will fill this out (not saying that's a good thing, btw, I'd just rather we didn't have such a gakky army), but WE may just end up like Thousand Sons, with an incredibly lacking roster. Clearly DG had actual fans as designers.

If you had such limited design space and resources, why in the WORLD would you design two different WE specific versions of a generic unit (possessed) instead of just making some actual well known Khornate units, like the Red Butcher?

tneva82 wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I think it's disgusting that the Death Guard got more releases than World Eaters for their respective codex releases.

And yet, a few pages back a bunch of people were fighting me over how much they preferred a TS-style release over a DG one...

At this point I think DG were a project of passion driven by some designers, while TS and WE are the business' attempt to replicate that success without passion.

Start of edition forces tend to get bigger focus. WE should have been 10th ed starter for them to stand a chance to equal DG.

Even if you cull all of the starter and ETB sets, DG have gotten more love than TS did, and more than WE are allegedly getting.

It's also not like other factions haven't gotten the same or more than the DG launch line up even in the middle of an edition, like LoV or Sisters.

The only real reason for GW acting like this is that they are either forcing a square peg through a round hole and had to cut corners because of that, or that GW has somehow cooked up a magic number of sets a new release should have.

I'm also curious whether it's "no WE specific terminators" or "no terminators at all", the rumors seem to be unclear on that.

I'd disagree with disgusting, warboss, but I'd certainly agree that it is perplexing.

 Jidmah wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I think it's disgusting that the Death Guard got more releases than World Eaters for their respective codex releases.

And yet, a few pages back a bunch of people were fighting me over how much they preferred a TS-style release over a DG one...

At this point I think DG were a project of passion driven by some designers, while TS and WE are the business' attempt to replicate that success without passion.

Start of edition forces tend to get bigger focus. WE should have been 10th ed starter for them to stand a chance to equal DG.

Even if you cull all of the starter and ETB sets, DG have gotten more love than TS did, and more than WE are allegedly getting.

It's also not like other factions haven't gotten the same or more than the DG launch line up even in the middle of an edition, like LoV or Sisters.

The only real reason for GW acting like this is that they are either forcing a square peg through a round hole and had to cut corners because of that, or that GW has somehow cooked up a magic number of sets a new release should have.

I'm also curious whether it's "no WE specific terminators" or "no terminators at all", the rumors seem to be unclear on that.

I believe the point he was making, isn't about starter and ETB sets, more that the edition release factions just tend to get a lot of new and updated kits. If WE or Tsons had been the 8th edition starter faction instead of DG, it's very likely they would have gotten a similar treatment with a much larger set of kits.

As to why they are doing this, I would guess it is to sell a wave 2 later and are maybe "Hedging" their bets on popularity.

IMO I think new faction drops should probably only ever be done as part of a new edition starter set. Over the past two editions, Necrons, Space Marines, and Death Guard have each received between 20-30 new and/or resculpted units during each edition launch (I.E. units included in the launch box + standalone kits received afterwards). By comparison, Votann are getting 12 and World Eaters are getting 9. Death Guard, at least, were a new(ish) faction, but did Space Marines (lets be real, the launch will *always* include Space Marines) and Necrons really need that many new kits, etc. in one shot vs taking it as an opportunity to launch a new faction in a fully fleshed out form?

I continue to wonder if World Eaters 10th edition might be an early codex with the rest of the units people expect.

It would not be first time something like that was pulled.

(shakes fist in Adeptus Mechanicus)

Codex: Red Butchers in 2024?

Maybe like the "Light Elves" in AoS?

Limited Release Codex with few new Stuff and new Codex early in 10th Edition 8 to 9 Months later?

RazorEdge wrote:
Maybe like the "Light Elves" in AoS?

Limited Release Codex with few new Stuff and new Codex early in 10th Edition 8 to 9 Months later?

I find that hard to believe. GW would never publish rules that would go out of date that quickly.

EviscerationPlague wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
Maybe like the "Light Elves" in AoS?

Limited Release Codex with few new Stuff and new Codex early in 10th Edition 8 to 9 Months later?

I find that hard to believe. GW would never publish rules that would go out of date that quickly.

please tell me you're being sarcastic

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
Maybe like the "Light Elves" in AoS?

Limited Release Codex with few new Stuff and new Codex early in 10th Edition 8 to 9 Months later?

I find that hard to believe. GW would never publish rules that would go out of date that quickly.

please tell me you're being sarcastic

100%
*cries in Traitor Legions Supplement in 7th edition*

 Dysartes wrote:
I'd disagree with disgusting, warboss, but I'd certainly agree that it is perplexing.

Well, we're talking about the Death Guard here !

I mean, get yourself some maulerfiends, rhinos, and berzerkers and there you go, you've got the same world eaters list that people have been playing for like a decade.

I'm not too surprised. TBH, there's certain releases in 9th ed that have just felt incomplete. Think about it.

Eldar - still missing a bunch of kits
Drukhari - still have random crap in resin
Chaos Marines - bikers, huron, where?
Votann - feels kinda small for the big squat remake

I do have a feeling that we'll be seeing 'wave 2' for a lot of these in 10th edition and onward, especially if rumors about them going the way of the indexes are true.

drbored wrote:
I mean, get yourself some maulerfiends, rhinos, and berzerkers and there you go, you've got the same world eaters list that people have been playing for like a decade.

That's all well and good, but people were expecting a little more, something along the lines of the Death Guard release with a bunch of new unit types.

And pointing out the deficiencies in other armies doesn't make these ones go away, or become any less valid.

Yeah, it seems like the end of 9th ed model releases barring the Votann are largely going to end with a bit of a whimper rather than a bang.

I wouldn't say that. Guard are getting several new & updated things (though I'm not horribly excited by Cadians in general, and certainly not after the cadian sprue). Also, I mean model-wise. The codex whispers are leaving me cold.

Its just chaos neglect. And specifically 40k chaos neglect, since AoS seems to be getting plenty of chaos love.

It's not neglect, it's that they half-ass basically everything they do.

On the contrary, Chaos gets more attention that most factions. It's just not has comprehensive as Loyalist Marines get.