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That’s 10 Legion Tacticals built, including their command.

Should probs do the other 10 today.

Question about Legion Vexilla:

These are basically back banners. With all the problems that those entail. Fiddly bits with small connection points, break easy, make transportation a pain, etc.

Are people just using the ones that come with the kits and sucking it up, or are there options? For 40k I stopped using back banners and switched to just banner toppers glued to the backpacks to help sarges stand out a bit.

I want to show pride in my legion and march forth banners flying, but they are such a pain.

from a game mechanic POV, they seem situationally nice. Not for every squad, but OK for ones planning on getting into CC or hugging the back board edge.

 Nevelon wrote:
Question about Legion Vexilla:

These are basically back banners. With all the problems that those entail. Fiddly bits with small connection points, break easy, make transportation a pain, etc.

Are people just using the ones that come with the kits and sucking it up, or are there options? For 40k I stopped using back banners and switched to just banner toppers glued to the backpacks to help sarges stand out a bit.

I want to show pride in my legion and march forth banners flying, but they are such a pain.

from a game mechanic POV, they seem situationally nice. Not for every squad, but OK for ones planning on getting into CC or hugging the back board edge.

I saw on Reddit that some people were using brass rod to make them into handheld banners. I tried it and it looks pretty decent - need some greenstuff to add a few details on the brass rod to make it a proper banner pole though.

The arm holding the power sword from the Mark VI kit is just about the correct angle for the conversion. The tough part is figuring out how to model the bearer with a slung bolter, or left handed bolter.

I used a few of the staff toppers from the Empire Battlemage kit for my friend's Tsons. All they needed was a pin to make sure they didn't snap and we were golden.

 Nevelon wrote:
Question about Legion Vexilla:

These are basically back banners. With all the problems that those entail. Fiddly bits with small connection points, break easy, make transportation a pain, etc.

Are people just using the ones that come with the kits and sucking it up, or are there options? For 40k I stopped using back banners and switched to just banner toppers glued to the backpacks to help sarges stand out a bit.

I want to show pride in my legion and march forth banners flying, but they are such a pain.

from a game mechanic POV, they seem situationally nice. Not for every squad, but OK for ones planning on getting into CC or hugging the back board edge.

I use the ones out of the kits as well as 3D printed ones, but I magnetise them with a small magnet drilled into or onto the pack (depending on mark of armour) and glued onto the bottom of the banner pole. This makes them easy to store and very durable as they won't snap. It also means you can swap vexillas round easily and if you decide not to use them they can just be left off. I do the same with voxes and augury scanners (in the boxes case I magnetise the whole pack and have a spare with no vox on it)

Gonna build a double Plasma Cannon Contemptor. Because there’s no-one to stop me this time.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Gonna build a double Plasma Cannon Contemptor. Because there’s no-one to stop me this time.

Not now, but Gets Hot! will eventually.

(but not until after you melt a lot of marines)


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Thanks for the input all. I’ll probably go with magnets. Not hard to sink them into backs/backpacks. And might just be able to extend the banner poles with one.

I did it. Percy Prince of Plasma Rides Again.

Might only start fielding him once I’ve lost a Veteran Sarge to Plasma pistol overheat, twice, buying him bionics in between deaths.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I did it. Percy Prince of Plasma Rides Again.

Might only start fielding him once I’ve lost a Veteran Sarge to Plasma pistol overheat, twice, buying him bionics in between deaths.

Can you get the parts to make the classic “this thing is dangerous” plasma gunner in heresy era marks? A supporting ML arm and a straight out to the side firing arm.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I did it. Percy Prince of Plasma Rides Again.

Might only start fielding him once I’ve lost a Veteran Sarge to Plasma pistol overheat, twice, buying him bionics in between deaths.

I've done one too, thanks to the boner some dev had for Contemptors that resulted, in addition to all their other buffs, in them having superior versions of all the guns, so Contemptor plasmas are 5" for no damn reason when all others are 3". Best coupled with another plasma unit that can carry a vox.

I kind of like the Contemptors having souped up shooters.

It harkens back to 2nd Ed, when Space Marine and Chaos Dreadnoughts had superior versions of otherwise infantry shooters.

Puts the Dread into Dreadnought, making use of their onboard reactor.


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Still thinking of 10 Flamers in a Rhino.

Whilst individually not great against other Marines? Sheer wound spam does have its place.

Definitely doing 10 Plasma and 10 Meltaguns. Probably 10 Volkite, undecided on Charger or Caliver.

Charger, not calvier.

Caliver is Heavy. But at least has some kind of range to speak of. Also worried the Chargers are wee enough to look like Nerf Guns.

Also, pics.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Caliver is Heavy. But at least has some kind of range to speak of. Also worried the Chargers are wee enough to look like Nerf Guns.

Also, pics.

Yeah, but chargers cost nothing and are assult.
That is the issue, whilest calviers cost 10 pts, are therefore more expensive then hws far superior volkite....
And i say that as someone that likes the calvier.

Tbh i think most people would let you get away with counting the calviers as chargers for looks.

True. Will need to sit down with my rule books.

The caliver vs culverin points costs are the biggest mystery in all of 30k.

Calibers look so awesome but are just so utterly pointless points wise. Dont think anyone would mind you using them as chargers though. They look so cool!

In regards to what I'm doing. I finally took a photo. Here are some sons of Horus destroyers

They were mainly an experiment in if I could print models in a single piece with no assembly on the tower side. All on all it went pretty well. Couple of issues with supports merging together under the backpacks but not bad

I love Calivers for the range but yes, Chargers being assault have their own je ne sais pas "in your face" quality about them.

Racerguy180 wrote:
I love Calivers for the range but yes, Chargers being assault have their own je ne sais pas "in your face" quality about them.

I was looking at the numbers and asked in a thread a while back. I wanted to fit the mid range ones into a support squad, but by the numbers just springing for the heavy slot with the big guns is a significantly better use of points, FOC space allowing.

I still do have plans for a 10 man support squad with chargers and chainswords in a LR.

I’m a little torqued at GW for having all the specialist guns with 2 hands molded on the plastic upgrade pack. Makes it hard to do sergeants and alternative poses. Really wished they had at least one gun without hands, or just one on the grip.

Wary as I’ve always been about transports (thanks, 2nd Ed!) I am tempted by the idea of a Lascannon Proteus Explorer packed to the gunnels with Volkite Chargers.

An early game “I’m over here in the corner, wrecking your stuff, you better come out and stop me” type threat/distraction.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Wary as I’ve always been about transports (thanks, 2nd Ed!) I am tempted by the idea of a Lascannon Proteus Explorer packed to the gunnels with Volkite Chargers.

An early game “I’m over here in the corner, wrecking your stuff, you better come out and stop me” type threat/distraction.

But why? (and i say this as a fan of the full volkite predator )

Seekers can do the same but better, AND can infiltrate a proteus up the board which means even more dakka ontop of seeker boltguns > volkite chargers/ calviers.

otoh, rotorcannons, now that is a squad that can profit from positioning AND break up reactions for your opponent.

Real men play with Volkite. I guess. I can’t actually support that.

But definitely not feeling Seekers.

My volkite Predator looked great, but ended up as terrain. It just can't compete with variants like the magna-melta cannon (okay, that's a silly name) + lascannon.

I just really, really love Volkite. Deff Rays 4 Everywun!

I have 3 volkite preds and a full volkite kratos in my spearhead list. The preds really do work. They put out a LOT of shots and being one of the few vehicle squadrons that can intercept/overwatch/return fire with full effect is a meaty little benefit

Hmm.

Dual Conversion Beamers on a Contemptor, yay or nay?

Yay!!


it will either win games or do absolutely nothing

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hmm.

Dual Conversion Beamers on a Contemptor, yay or nay?

How do your tables look?

If your area has more open tables, then absolutly yay.
If your area tends to reenact "Stalingrad but in Shpeece" then NAY:

Also, magnets. Do magnets. Nothing sucks as much as having a expensive model do nothing and just collect dust.

And the new contemptors are casually easy to mag with some 4x1mm magnets.

Can’t be arse with magnets.

I’ll just buy MOAR DREADS.

Besides, I’ve only two left to build, so a bit late!

It takes about ten minutes 😭