Mierce Miniatures Darklands Ongoing News and Rumors Thread! Darklands Rulebook ships on April 18!

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**Mierce Miniatures**

Zond wrote:
The graphic is certainly helpful. Now if I knew how the armies played, a bit more of the background rivalries... And my idea of all humans is probably dead. So far I'm looking at a British Isles four way or a Norse, Snakemen, Byzantine split. Though I assume the beast guys screw with the Norse so I could chuck them in.

I'm working on it... in the meantime, this may help (taken from the project's front page):

The Albainn represent the people the Romans called the Pictii, the Painted, who inhabit the far north of modern-day Scotland. The Angelcynn are the Angles that settled the north and east of Britain and eventually gave their name to that kingdom, England. The Brythoniaid are the original Britons, pushed back by the invading Anglo-Saxons to the north and west of the land, and now called the Welsh. The Byzantii are the remnants of the Roman Empire in the east, the Byzantines, who have allied themselves with the enemies of the one god - the Infernii - to reconquer the lost lands of the western empire.

The Fomoraic represent the evil Fomorians, the devils from the sea bent on conquering the lands above the water at any cost and whose leader, Baalor, has based himself on Toraigh, the Tory Island of the north-west Irish coast. The Khthones are the once-slaves of Atalantia, a race of lizards and reptiles bound by cold blood to destroy their enslavers, the Atalantes, and to find lands of their own in Europe. You will know Atalantia as Atlantis, situated off the coast of Ireland and Britain in the dark lands. The Norse are our own northmen, vikings if you will, come to conquer the soft lands of the west in their longships from scandinavia. The Ysians are the Cornish (Kernow) and Breton (Ys) peoples who have turned their backs on their fellow Britons to follow their own path.
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More to come...

Cheers

**razormage**

Bossk_Hogg wrote:
The prices on the add ons in the graphic look off. I thought it was 20% off, not 10%. Either way, its good to see you can put together a starter host for around $150. Anyone know if some factions play more monster heavy than others? Ysian seems to point that way, but not sure.

Khthones have no "normal" infantry (at least not yet), so they're all monstrous infantry and larger.
Ysians can go monster heavy, but they currently have more human-sized infantry units (2) than any other kindred (ax-drunes and bow-drunes). I think they do rely on their monsters to do a lot of their heavy lifting, but I haven't run a 15-man ax-drune unit yet so that might be misleading.
Fomoraic seems to be quite monster heavy compared to the others, but it might be because they seem to have the most developed kindred (three kin - Sronax, Tarvax, and Gabrax - with a fourth - Warriors of Baalor - in development).
Angelcynn (so far) are the most light on monsters, as they only have the Guthwulf and the Freawulf from KS2. The Albiann also only have two monsters, but they're only just beginning as a kindred and aren't as detailed as the others yet.

**PEARSCW**

I will add that Brythoniads can run a large number of monsters. They have some of the largest montrous infantrty with the Dyndraig, the Cawrdraig are large, and there are 4 large beasts, a Dragon, a Gwyfern, a Wocor and Tawrdraig.

**Alpharius**

The "Recommended Loadouts" look great - thanks for that!

Also, any more details on this:

spartan059 wrote:
And another new concept revealed:

Clearly (?) Kthones, but...anything else on him?

**highlord tamburlaine**

Prior to the current KS beginning, I had been hoping we'd get a Savrar (lizard man) unit for the Khthon just to mix things up size- wise.

At least that way you could have something to be considered "normal" infantry.

Maybe if funding gets high enough we'll still see some.

I hope we can see a sculpt for Agriosavra soon. I'm curious how he'll stack up compared to the humans in Darklands.

**razormage**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Prior to the current KS beginning, I had been hoping we'd get a Savrar (lizard man) unit for the Khthon just to mix things up size- wise.

At least that way you could have something to be considered "normal" infantry.

Maybe if funding gets high enough we'll still see some.

I hope we can see a sculpt for Agriosavra soon. I'm curious how he'll stack up compared to the humans in Darklands.

I think he's next on the list for Roberto Chaudon, after Angedern is done (which was supposedly last Friday). I'm eager to see how he looks as well! I was thinking we'd see Savrar as the Khthonic focus for this Kickstarter, but Mierce went Krokodar instead (not necessarily a bad thing).

**Looky Likey**

Does anybody know how many gold points the really big beasts like Angrislaug cost?

**PEARSCW**

Looky, Angrislaug is 621 gold.

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If you check the musters you can see all the gold costs. They also tell you at the very bottom of each unit entry what models are for that entry

**Looky Likey**

Ooh ta! Looks like I'll have quite sizable armies then!

**Alpharius**

PEARSCW wrote:
Looky, Angrislaug is 621 gold.

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If you check the musters you can see all the gold costs. They also tell you at the very bottom of each unit entry what models are for that entry

I looked but didn't see him!

Which one is he in?

**zedmeister**

Alpharius wrote:
PEARSCW wrote:
Looky, Angrislaug is 621 gold.

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If you check the musters you can see all the gold costs. They also tell you at the very bottom of each unit entry what models are for that entry

I looked but didn't see him!

Which one is he in?

Angrislaug is her name. The beasty is listed as a Draiggoch in the muster - it should tell you the valid available models under each unit profile.

**PEARSCW**

Angrislaug is a Draiggoch, he is found on the 2nd to last page of the Brythoniad muster.

**Wehrkind**

Very nice explanation of forces and recommended sets to get with the KS! Thanks so much!

**highlord tamburlaine**

Maybe I'm blind, but where are the gold prices listed?

I was checking out the Khthon muster, and was having difficulty making heads or tails of it. Obviously it would help if I read the rules more thoroughly.

I noticed multiple sheets for the same character as well. Thought that was odd.

**Alpharius**

zedmeister wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
PEARSCW wrote:
Looky, Angrislaug is 621 gold.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
If you check the musters you can see all the gold costs. They also tell you at the very bottom of each unit entry what models are for that entry

I looked but didn't see him!

Which one is he in?

Angrislaug is her name. The beasty is listed as a Draiggoch in the muster - it should tell you the valid available models under each unit profile.

PEARSCW wrote:Angrislaug is a Draiggoch, he is found on the 2nd to last page of the Brythoniad muster.

Got it now - thanks guys!

**Elemental**

I find it amusing how weedy Ulmons looks next to the dragon.

**RiTides**

Zond wrote:
The graphic is certainly helpful. Now if I knew how the armies played, a bit more of the background rivalries... And my idea of all humans is probably dead. So far I'm looking at a British Isles four way or a Norse, Snakemen, Byzantine split. Though I assume the beast guys screw with the Norse so I could chuck them in.

Yeah, that graphic is really great!

Is there an easy way to tell what monstrous infantry fit with these normal infantry units? For example, with Fomoraic.

**Alpharius**

I'm not sure what you mean by that question...

**RiTides**

On the KS3 page, I see in the graphic small, human infantry in Foromaic's position. However, I thought each army had both monstrous big infantry and human sized infantry. So, I was asking which monstrous big infantry unit goes with Foromaic, and if there is anywhere easy to see this.

(Sorry if it's obvious

)

**JudgeShamgar**

The best place to find them is on the Mierce website. On the right side you can pick the Fomoraic faction, and then scroll down to see the monstrous infantry. They have the bull-men, Tarvax, and the rhino-men, Sronax.

**skullking**

razormage wrote:

Ysians can go monster heavy, but they currently have more human-sized infantry units (2) than any other kindred (ax-drunes and bow-drunes).

You are correct that the Ysians have the most human sized infantry units, but you forgot about the goad-drunes and the Melusines. Their only monstrous infantry so far is the brute unit, until we reach 80k.

As much as I would love to get the mallax & scout drune units, I want Mierce to focus on the armies like the albainn a lot more in this kickstarter. Hopefully after 82,500£ we'll see it play out more in the weaker factions favor ( ie, 1-2 units for the Albainn, the byzantii, and a few more beasts for the angelcynn right away, with a sprinkling of stuff for my formorians & Ysians).

**highlord tamburlaine**

So far all the Formaic have are big uns.

All the smaller stuff is from KS2 and the soon to be produced 2.5 guys.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

These will the the (roughly) human sized Fomoric troops from KS2

**Alpharius**

RiTides wrote:
On the KS3 page, I see in the graphic small, human infantry in Foromaic's position. However, I thought each army had both monstrous big infantry and human sized infantry. So, I was asking which monstrous big infantry unit goes with Foromaic, and if there is anywhere easy to see this.

(Sorry if it's obvious )

It was probably just me 'not getting it'!

But yes, the Fomoraic Kindred has AWESOME monstrous infantry!

Sronax

Tarvax

**RiTides**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
These will the the (roughly) human sized Fomoric troops from KS2

So why do they seem to have actual "humans" in the current campaign? I like the above quite a bit, but wouldn't envision humans working with these kind of goat-folks

**razormage**

The Fomoriac are a race that breeds humans and animal. The Gabrax (goat-men), Tarvax (cow-men), Sronax (rhino-men), Mallax (sloth-men), Mammax (elephant-men), and Walvax (walrus-men) are all bound beneath Baalor, who is a Fomoraic diety who also has sway over men. Thus, a Scion of Baalor (a creature infused with Baalor's energy) can call any of them to fight with him. In game terms, generally you can see them in the same army, but there will be a Tarvax Tain (hero choice, in WFB terms) with a unit of Tarvax marching beneath the command of a Warriors of Baalor Untain (lord choice).

**Alpharius**

As of right now, only the KTHONES do not have 'regular humans' in their armies.

**plastictrees**

Hard to tell from most pictures, but the Sronax are freaking huge.
Incidentally, would Tarvax be on 40mm bases now that Mierce have introduced those?

**decker_cky**

plastictrees wrote:
Hard to tell from most pictures, but the Sronax are freaking huge.

Bigger than a bloodthirster (minus wings).

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

plastictrees wrote:
Hard to tell from most pictures, but the Sronax are freaking huge.
Incidentally, would Tarvax be on 40mm bases now that Mierce have introduced those?

The Tarvax are now on 50mm bases

they were originally supplied with 60mm but moved down once Mierce had the full range available (the one below is on a 60 so as you can see a 40 would be too small)